Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants

9:36 AM, Sunday January 3rd 2021

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I struggled a lot till the end~

Some of my constructions are kinda good and some of them are really bad. I feel like I had problems with the mental process to understand how to build the constructions and it ended up in some really weak constructions and an inconsistency in the quality of my work. Also it was really difficult to make textures, I couldn't come up with good ideas about it...

This lesson was really hard for me... Plants are pretty but I had enough of them (at least for a while). Btw I missed some pictures, sorry :(

Any advice is welcomed!

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10:57 AM, Monday February 15th 2021

Hello, it's me again. Here's feedback for Lesson 3.

Organic arrows - Your arrows have improved since L2, in particular they are growing in size a lot more with each bend. Well done :) There are still a few perspective issues here and there - eg. the two leftmost arrows, the hatching on the bends makes it appear that the smaller end is closer to the viewer while the bigger end is farther away. But overall this is not a serious issue: the hatching stays consistent across the whole arrow so the perspective is correct (even if the size is not). Not a big deal!

Leaves - Good work. There's a bit of stiffness here and there (especially the places you add lineweight) but overall I get a good sense of flow from the midline (flow line) and the edges.

I have two main critique for leaves: whenever you add edge detail to the sides of the leaves, ie. cutting in or adding bumps to the initial line......

  1. don't zigzag across the initial line (see this picture from the Leaves exercise page) but use smaller, individual strokes starting and ending at the initial line. It appears that most of the leaf edges have been drawn with a single line. (Although I may be wrong since the added lineweight is quite heavy.)

  2. Don't add extra lineweight to the initial line if there is no cutting in/adding bumps, just leave the initial line the way it is. Eg. Top left leaf has extra lineweight across the whole leaf, even the part that comes from the initial line.

Uncomfy gave me the same critique for my Leaves exercise, so I'll just quote him:

Remember that line weight, as mentioned previously, should be reserved only to clarify specific overlaps and should not be traced back over the entirety of existing lines. Furthermore, remember that construction isn't about using one phase of construction to replace what comes before it. Each one builds upon the last, and there will be circumstances where marks from your initial construction will continue to play an important role in the drawing's final state.

Stems - Also good work, I don't see any glaring issues. A few of the ellipses aren't quite aligned with the flow line/minor axis, but this is nitpicking. :)

Plant drawings - First, the strengths! Your linework clearly gets more confident with each drawing and looks great in the last few pages. You're applying a lot of construction steps everywhere, such as flow lines for petals and leaves, and contour curves for succulents. Overall the plants get more 3-D and solid looking over the lesson. Well done!

The feedback for improvement:

  1. When in doubt - use flow lines, even for the cylindrical/oval structures like succulents/cactus and mushrooms. The most wobbly drawings were the ones where there were no flow lines to guide the movement of the structure, eg. the big mushroom in the middle of the Mushroom page, big rabbit-ear cactus on the Cactus page (both the big body and the smaller ears). I personally discovered that when I had to draw big ellipses or barrel shaped structures, an initial minor axis or flow line helped me to orient the shape better and reduce wobble.

I think Uncomfy doesn't use flow lines for his Mushroom and Cactus demos so I understand why you didn't draw them, but I also think that it's very hard to draw the bigger structures without that line - so best to draw one instead of leaving it out. I think you started using flow lines more in the later pages which is good.

  1. For many leaves, especially the last two pages - same critique as the Leaves exercise.

  2. Texturing/shadows on the last 3 pages (Pitcher plant onwards) - They look fine to me, but some detailing looks a bit like form shadows (eg. pear, venus flytrap). If in doubt, look for cast shadows and draw those, ignore form shadows. For textures, remember L2 Texture Analysis and try to see how the texture is casting small shadows, then draw them with this two-step method. For example, I think the texture on the Pitcher plants looks like an outline of shape/colour instead of a cast shadow. Textures and shadows are definitely tricky to do, but you still gave it a go, and it's clear to me you were experimenting with different techniques -- which is great.

  3. Last 2 pages look very pretty but it's getting a little bit hard to see your initial construction behind the textures/shadows. So this is a reminder that you don't want to draw faint "practice lines" at first then replace with more confident lines. As Uncomfy says in the quote above, some of the initial construction lines are going to be used all the way into the final drawing. So draw all your construction with the same confident lines from start to finish. I'm sure you're already doing that, but just a reminder for future!

Congrats on finishing Lesson 3. It's clear to me that you were experimenting with a lot of different methods and applying all the skills you learned in L1-L2 to the plants. That mental process isn't easy but I'm glad you gave it a try anyway, and you definitely improved from start to finish. That's something to be proud of!

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Lesson 4 is next!

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11:46 AM, Thursday February 18th 2021

Hi, Vega~ it's nice to meet you here again :D

As you mentioned I kind of think that my leaves were quite stiff most of the time (it was basically a lesson about leaves and a drew them poorly LOL) , I must confess that at the beginning I did zigzag in the leaves but I tried to change it as I was doing the drawings.

I still have some difficult to identify the cast shadows... I saw my homework again and I realize I missed a bunch of cast shadows here and there. I'm going to try to focus just in big shadows and less in minor details.

I usually draw my initial lines with less pressure so I guess that's why you couldn't see my construction, I'm going to change this. And about the line weight, I was using it to reinforce a more "natural look" for the detailed drawings, should a change it? (I mean like just doing it for overlaps and such?).

Thank you so much for taking the time to look at my homework, I appreciate a lot the feedback and I'm going to keep it in mind for the next lesson.

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9:28 AM, Saturday February 20th 2021

I really dont know what else to add other than what Vega said.

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I think you did very good :) hop on lesson 4

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