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Lesson 5: Applying Construction to Animals

9:33 PM, Thursday August 18th 2022

Shared album - Order of Fantasy - Google Photos

Shared album - Order of Fantasy - Google Photos:

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8:09 PM, Friday August 19th 2022

While your work is certainly improved over the last attempt, unfortunately I cannot accept this submission, and have cancelled it (which returned the 2 credits you spent to your account). There are simply far too many signs that you did not directly follow the instructions from the lesson, and that there are many specific points I raised in my critique of your last Lesson 5 attempt that have not been addressed here either. I'm going to keep this brief in the interest of time, but here are some major points to this effect:

  • When constructing your torsos, you neglect to establish the major masses of the ribcage and pelvis (as outlined here right at the start of the lesson).

  • In frequently working in 2D space/altering silhouettes (in the manner discussed in Lesson 4, though I also addressed this further in Lesson 5) - you're still doing this throughout this lesson's work as well, rather than ensuring that every new addition be its own fully self-enclosed silhouette.

  • You don't appear to have made any attempt to apply the head construction points I raised at the end of my previous feedback.

In critiquing your first attempt at the lesson work, I had the option to similarly cancel your submission, but I decided to do a full (and very lengthy) critique as I felt that was what would be considerably more useful to you. Unfortunately, as we have very limited resources (given how cheaply the official critiques are offered), here I must impress upon the student's responsibility to do everything they reasonably can to apply the feedback they've received, and avoid (as best as they can) having us repeat the same points.

That said, there have definitely been situations where things like language barriers, disabilities and other similar concerns have raised issues that I have not been able to surmount - being a self-taught instructor with no actual teaching credentials. When that happens - in situations where my explanations don't quite take root for the student - I try to make it clear that learning/teaching is a cooperative endeavor. It falls to both the instructor and the student to do what they can, and there are circumstances where I am not equipped to provide the kind of assistance that a student with more significant needs may require.

To put it simply - I have run into situations where I simply could not provide what the student required, whether it was explaining the concepts in ways they could meaningfully understand, or where it would simply take more time than I can provide to get those explanations across.

While you and I are certainly not at that crossroads yet, it is important to consider just why you didn't apply many points that were either specifically called out to you in personalized feedback, or presented in the lesson material and applied across the demonstrations. If it was simply a matter of you not giving the task the time it required, then that's okay. It happens. Learning to draw is extremely time consuming, and some constructions can be so complex as to require many hours of work. It also requires us to avoid relying on memory, and instead go back and review the same material over and over to keep it fresh in our minds every time we tackle a new construction. If that's what held you back, that you weren't fulfilling your end of the student's responsibilities, then that is something you can address and fix.

Or, if the way I'm explaining things is simply confusing in specific areas, and there are particular things that aren't clear to you - you can always ask questions, whether it be directly to me in reply to my feedback, or on our subreddit, or on our discord server... Drawabox is a big community, and while what we can offer with official critique is limited by how little we charge, the breadth of what's available to you for free is quite significant.

If it's something else - a language issue that interferes with your ability to understand the information I'm provided, or something else, then we may need to consider whether I am indeed able to give you the help you need.

Anyway, as I stated - I've cancelled your submission, and returned the 2 credits you spent to your account. If ultimately you decide that what you require is more than what can be offered to you here, let me know and I can issue a refund for those 2 credits as well.

2:31 PM, Saturday August 20th 2022

No need to return the refund, the language barrier is not the issue and I guess I need to over the read-over the lesson again.

7:13 PM, Monday August 22nd 2022

I have done head construction and just want to confirm if this is how you want it to be constructed.

11:01 PM, Monday August 22nd 2022

Unfortunately that does not appear to have much in common with the head construction demo I asked you to follow:

  • The eye sockets are different shapes (6 sided instead of 5 sided)

  • Your lower jaw is a partial/flat shape coming off the cranial ball - I'm not seeing any attempt at defining the muzzle as a single block and establishing how it connects to the cranial ball in 3D space

  • The forehead area is not being established

Out of curiosity, what notes/diagrams did you refer to when drawing this?

12:54 AM, Tuesday August 23rd 2022

I use this picture has reference and tiger head drawing has notes

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