Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes

9:44 AM, Sunday September 26th 2021

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I've really enjoyed getting into Draw A Box so far and I'm looking forward to tackling the box challenge next. :)

Thank you in advance for any critiques and feedback!

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10:53 PM, Monday October 4th 2021
edited at 11:05 PM, Oct 4th 2021

It appears Rivgar has already given you a critique righ after I have finished mine, I'll post it anyway in case you are interested in reading it, lucky, you get two instead of one! :p

I also noticed that there is some conflicting information between both, so take at heart the critique that you believe has the issues covered. Specifically, the funnels exercise, I do not think the issue with the minor axis is truly present, as I do believe you did managed to, although imperfectly, align them. But again, up to you on this one. Take care and good luck on the box challenge!

{Start of critique}

Congratulations on getting through lesson 1. I will be the one reviewing your work today and provide some feedback on each individual exercise.

Your lines exercises show that you are getting comfortable with the ghosting method and are utilizing your whole arm to draw your marks. Using your whole arm will yield smoother, more consistent line-work by relying on muscle memory alone. Your superimposed lines exercise shows a good start of this, with most of your lines being kept mostly continuous and drawn confidently without much wobbling. There is a clear starting point with fraying only on one end of the line, something that will lessen over time with enough practice. The ghosted lines exercise is done well with not much wobbling aside from some flukes. The thing that I do notice is the small wobbling at the end of your mark, this is happening because you are slowing down right before you are about to hit the end mark. If over shooting is your main concern, you can try to lift the pen up from the page without any slowdown to ensure that the wobbling at the end doesn’t happen, and you ameliorate the overshooting. Just remember to not slow down your pace while you are drawing your line. The same applies to your ghosted planes exercise. Please note that you should never prioritize accuracy over confidence in your mark making as this is considered a mistake, this wobbling is present subtly but visibly in your exercise. Keep this in mind for your warm-ups later on.

Your ellipses are coming along well with smoothly draw ones and drawn through on most of your exercises, and with a good understanding of the ellipses minor axis, keeping them symmetrical on both sides where it folds the ellipse. For your table of ellipses there are a few problems, you have not drawn through your ellipses through in a few occasions, stopping midway or not drawing through at all. Keep in mind that to get smoothly draw ellipses with confidence, we must draw through them at least twice to maintain that confidence, and don’t draw through more than 3 times to avoid a messy one. Throughout the cell, you kept the angle consistent and kept them within bounds of it. You should avoid what you did on the cell at the second page on the fourth row, first column, you are not utilizing the entire cell’s space and ignoring its boundaries. You have done well in the ellipses in planes exercise with keeping them tangent to the plane’s edges and ensuring that they remain smoothly drawn. Same with your funnels, you have managed to keep them within the bounds of each funnel, snugged against one another, and also aligned well with the minor axis. I see very issues present, all that is needed is practice. If you are having troubles with symmetry and are struggling to remove some bends or tips from the major axis, you can try to draw your ellipses starting and ending on the minor axis, being this vastly more important than the major, you can try focusing on it more this way to ensure you construct two symmetrical halves.

For your boxes, you have a strong understanding of perspective early on, which will be refined even further on the upcoming box challenge. Your plotter perspective is done well, nothing else to state here. Your rough perspective is starting out strong, with a good amount of accuracy on your guesses for each line converging towards the vanishing point. The thing to mention is the subtle wobbling and bending on your lines, so what I said in the lines exercises applies here as well. If you are having troubles with arcing lines, you can try consciously bending them in the opposite direction to cancel it out. You have done an excellent job on your rotated boxes, keeping them close to the neighboring boxes with a good deal of rotation on all, you have taken advantage of the surroundings to nail down the perspective. There are some minor mistakes like not much rotation in your upper left corner, but with practice, this will become easier to manage. Finally, your organic perspective is done well, there is depth to the scene and plenty of different orientations on your boxes. Keep the angles of the initial Y greater than 90 degree to avoid distortion, don’t worry if these boxes are a little wonky, you will have plenty to practice with on the 250 box challenge.

Very good on your first lesson, you have shown a strong grasp of the concepts and overall this is a good submission. I believe you are prepared to begin the 250 box challenge with all the knowledge you have gained from lesson 1. Congratulations on completing lesson 1 and best of luck on the challenge ahead. I will be marking your lesson as complete.

Next Steps:

uh what Rivgar said - 250 challenge. :p

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edited at 11:05 PM, Oct 4th 2021
4:12 PM, Tuesday October 5th 2021

Hi Kazz,

Thank you for providing feedback on my submission. Lucky me, getting two different views :)

Lifting my pen when doing ghosted lines sounds good, I'll give it a try to reduce wobble. Definitely will continue practising my ellipses as well, starting from the minor axis as you suggest.

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10:05 PM, Monday October 4th 2021

Hello Enneth, I hope you are well.

I am glad to hear that you also enjoy draw a box.

Starting with you lines, only thing that catches my eye is that in your ghosted lines, you're not as confident as in the rest of the lesson. Additionally you try to adjust the trajectory of the line near the end, but that only happens in this exercise. That being said, your lines came out really confident in this section. It shows that you take as much time as needed for ghosting and execute with a confident stroke in this section of a lesson, but that doesn't mean they are perfect, you still do more work with your warmup with lines, but remember to not grind.

Moving onto your ellipses, you are focusing on a smooth and confidently made ellipses rather than an accurate one, which is a proper thing to do. Also you are drawing through them 2-3 times, so great job reading the material covered as many people miss those crucial criteria of an ellipses we are making in this section.

There is a slight problem with your ellipses overlapping and going out of bound in tables of ellipses. This does not happen frequently but it does tell me that sometimes you don't take enough time for every ellipse. So keep in mind to be patient.

In the funnel exercise you aren't aligning ellipses to the minor axis, which should cut each of them in two symmetrical halves.

Lastly your boxes, came out great, I don't see any major mistakes, just a few really minor ones. As you already explained about hatching. Also you repeat your lines in the organic perspective exercise. Repeating our lines means that our 1st attempt wasn't good enough and we want to hide our mistake. To be frank, don't do that. Even if the line we put is bad, leave it. Next time you try to put a line think about a mistake you made the previous time and don't make it again.

Summary, you did a great job absorbing material covered in the lessons. There were only a few minor mistakes in your submission so I will mark this lesson as complete. Please keep in mind to be patient and don't repeat your lines.

Have fun during your journey and if you have any questions feel free to ask,

Next Steps:

Continue to 250 box challenge

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4:00 PM, Tuesday October 5th 2021

Hi Rivgar,

Thanks a lot for taking the time to review my submission. I'll definitely keep practising my lines and ellipses during warm ups. Regarding the organic perspective exercise, I was trying to add line weight to the overlapping boxes. But because I only did it for a few of them (and poorly at that) I agree that it looks messy. I'll focus on keeping things more coherent in future exercises.

On to 250 boxes! :)

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4:54 PM, Tuesday October 5th 2021

Wow! You did a great job at the homework.

Your rotated box exercise are life goals for me, your ghosted lines are awesome as well.

Very good work your ready for the 250 box challenge for sure.

Next Steps:

250 Box Challenge, good Luck!

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5:27 PM, Tuesday October 5th 2021

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