Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants

8:54 PM, Tuesday June 27th 2023

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First I want to thank this page, I am starting to understand many perspective principles and I started to see a progress even in this lesson, mi first draws were pretty bad, I still struggle with some but Its improving.

Specially when the flowers are on the side its difficult to apply perspective

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4:49 PM, Tuesday September 5th 2023

Hey, congratulations on getting through lesson 3! It's great that your spatial understanding continues to improve.

Now, before we get into this, I'd like to ask about line quality. Do you have any particular condition that cause it to be difficult to create smooth lines? If this is the case, I don't need details, but if you have something (like hands that shake or whatnot), ignore this next bit.

Line quality: Your understanding is increasing, which is excellent. However, if you wish to have clean looking drawings, you'll want to specifically work on your line quality. This took me a few months, and I'm still working on it. Here are some suggestions.

1. Warm up 3-5 minutes before you draw. I personally pick one song on youtube and warm up until it's over. Especially do the ghosted lines, frayed lines (and curves), and tables of cylinders. It's okay if you don't fill a whole page. Just go until the time is up.

2. Keep a piece of scratch paper nearby. When your lines go wobbly, do a few smooth, wild sweeps across the scratch paper to "reset" yourself.

3. Gradually learn your "Goldilocks speed," not to slow, and not too fast. Too slow, and you'll get wobbles. Too fast, and it will be inaccurate.

4. This is hard for me too--if you draw a line and it isn't accurate, leave it rather than trying to redraw it. (Do whatever you please in your 50% work, though.)

Arrows: You're starting to see with some depth here, and getting some folds in the ribbons. Next level will be to try to get the ribbon to dramatically narrow as it recedes into the distance. It can help to draw one sweeping line, then put dots underneath at the bends to plan where your second line needs to go.

Branches: Again, the idea is there.

Leaves: These are okay, but I noticed none bend over. Folding the leaves is hard, but it can help if you first try to bend a "sheet of paper," or a small chunk of ribbon. Then you can add the leaf inside. Like this: https://imgur.com/a/cQ98k6f

Plants: So these are a good start, but I notice that most of your plants have straight, upright stems and leaves/petals that face the viewer without folding over. The bell shaped flowers and mushrooms start to move away from this trend, but they need some construction lines. For example, an ellipse that marks the bottom part of the bell, which the petals are built around.

Next Steps:

Okay, you're going to think I'm the most fussy, picky, harsh feedback giver ever. You've just gotten through all this work, and I'm about to ask for more. Feel free to get a second opinion on this critique. But doing this will help you for lesson 4.

  1. It's not from this lesson, but I'd like to see 1 page of frayed lines, 1 of ghosted lines, and 1 table of ellipses. Focus on smoothness (see above tips). If you aim wrong, don't redraw the line--just leave it. It's a warm up--smoothness is more important than accuracy here. Feel free to do them during your warm up time. Keep doing these warm ups, drawing from the shoulder, and after a few months you'll see improvement.

  2. Arrows: do 1 more page of arrows, with smooth lines that don't fray. The first line you draw should be one big sweeping stroke.

  3. Leaves: do 1 more page of leaves, bending at least 8 of them over (see above for tips). You can do half of your leaves as just rectangular sheets before you try to make it work with a leaf shape. https://imgur.com/a/cQ98k6f

  4. Plants: Complete all the demos if you haven't. Did you draw along with the demos? These go over how to draw three dimensional flowers with petals that fold over. If not, do that and turn it in. You have the right idea constructing the branches with ellipses, but need more types of construction practice. Draw through everything. Try 2 more plants (one per page), emphasizing construction lines. (One option would be to do the bell shaped flowers again, but with more thorough construction lines). You can see examples of work on the discord.

I know this is a ton of work (7 pages, or 13 if you are drawing along with the demos for the first time). If you do it, you'll be grateful when you hit arachnids and animals. Good luck!

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12:44 AM, Wednesday September 6th 2023

I asked Elodin for feedback on my feedback, and this thing won't let me edit the last bits. (Ignore the bit I wrote about the straight stems.)

Here is what Elodin said:

-the main issues I see are the wobbly lines, that they're doing scribbles on the texture and that they aren't drawing through some parts (like the pots)

-not sure what u mean about the stems being only upright? i don't think thhat's that much of a problem

if the ref is like that then the ref is like that

-also another important thing is that they're drawing too smol

-i'd tell them to do one drawing per page

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