i feel like i'm struggling so hard when it comes to thiniking about how something flows in 3d space. like when i try and do leaves exercise i struggle with how the lines flow and how to bend and overlap them with the flow of the line.
Can you bend a piece of paper in space? Maybe try that, and then sort of fit a leaf onto that page (see the bottom of this sheet--ignore the poison oak/blackberry leaves): https://imgur.com/a/RB3jDGp
I think the confusion happens because we have start with the wonky edges of a leaf, and are trying to bend those wonky lines. (Sort of like how in rendering, you have the color/value of the light on top of local color/value, which can be confusing to untangle.)
If you can fold a rectangular leaf, that's a first step.
this activly helped me so much with overlapping them and just drawing them in genral. thank you so much
Glad it helped--good luck moving forward!
This recommendation is really just for those of you who've reached lesson 6 and onwards.
I haven't found the actual brand you buy to matter much, so you may want to shop around. This one is a "master" template, which will give you a broad range of ellipse degrees and sizes (this one ranges between 0.25 inches and 1.5 inches), and is a good place to start. You may end up finding that this range limits the kinds of ellipses you draw, forcing you to work within those bounds, but it may still be worth it as full sets of ellipse guides can run you quite a bit more, simply due to the sizes and degrees that need to be covered.
No matter which brand of ellipse guide you decide to pick up, make sure they have little markings for the minor axes.
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