250 box challenge - how to improve

5:32 PM, Thursday March 3rd 2022

I am currently working on the 250 box challenge. Finally, I have finished 100 boxes.

Unfortunately, I do not have the feeling that I improved very much. I still get weird problems in all of them.

I tried to find out if I am doing anything systematically wrong, but cannot see any pattern.

Is there anything else I should do, or should I just continue as is?

This is the last sheet I was working on, so you can see where I am at.

https://imgur.com/vu2V8AD

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3:44 AM, Friday March 4th 2022

Just keep moving forward, the goal of the challenge is not to create perfect boxes. For example, looking at your boxes here I can see your lines converge in pairs rather than sets, you will not completely get rid of this issue but it will diminish as you continue with the challenge. Good luck :

3:29 PM, Friday March 4th 2022

The converging in pairs, is definitely a good observation. Thank you for the encouragement.

I simply wanted to make sure, that I am not doing it entirely wrong.

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12:32 AM, Saturday March 5th 2022
edited at 12:57 AM, Mar 5th 2022

I'm still doing the 250 Box challenge too, but I think your boxes look very good. Yes, sometimes your lines miss the vanishing points (sometimes by a lot), but I assume that's just part of trying to estimate where the vanishing points are. It looks like you may be having a bit of a challenge with getting some of the back lines to hit close to the vanishing point (particularly the top middle one); I do too; something I've found rather helpful is to orient your page so that you can comfortably ghost perfectly over the front middle line without too much trouble, and then use that position (and adjust with the outer line in consideration) as a guide without moving the page (except to adjust slightly) to draw the back line.

Another thing I noticed is that the lines for all your back corners intersect perfectly. While the clean intersection makes the boxes look nice, it can mess up those back lines if you're more concerned about them all intersecting rather than trying to make sure they all hit their vanishing points (which may mean they won't all intersect properly). I recall hearing Uncomfortable say (in some video; it may have been his critique video with Scylla; I don't remember) that the back corner is a distraction; students try so hard to make sure the back-corner lines intersect properly instead of making sure those back lines stay true to their vanishing points. The back corner really just reveals all the mistakes you made with each box, which is why it's so hard to get that back corner to work out properly unless you get all the other lines perfect.

Like the others say, these problems probably won't ever completely go away because we can mess up in the planning, preparation, and/or the execution phase of drawing the line.

Keep up the great work! Those are some nice lines.

edited at 12:57 AM, Mar 5th 2022
6:19 AM, Saturday March 5th 2022

Thank you for the detailed feedback. Especially the one about the back corner. I thought the lines should hit the back corner, even though it will look wrong to show all our mistakes. So I tried to find the point that has the least distortion for all three lines.

I will rewatch the videos and find out how to handle that back corner better.

Thanks a lot and have fun finishing your 250 box challenge :)

3:14 PM, Saturday March 5th 2022

You're welcome. I do like that you tried to find a compromise to make the best of that back corner; that's a logical approach (I really struggled with this at first in the Rough Perspective exercise because it seemed like I wasn't able both to hit the vanishing point with each line and make my boxes' corners connect); but I think shooting for the vanishing point with each line is the priority with this challenge. It would be nice if Uncomfortable would clarify how we should think of and approach the back corner in the challenge instructional material.

Thanks, you too :)

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3:09 AM, Friday March 4th 2022

Just continue. The boxes are very good but the lines look almost too straight and perfect for hand drawn.....Hmmmm.

3:28 PM, Friday March 4th 2022

Thanks for the compliment, but they are in fact hand drawn.

I always practice a few tracing lines and lines connecting dots beforehand.

Apparently this starts to pay of :)

You can see in many of the corners, where I drew a bit too far though :(

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11:27 PM, Tuesday March 8th 2022

It honestly looks good to me!! Sorry you went so long without a reply, it looks like the box’s are all heading to their respective vanishing points, though some of the line are a little steep, specifically the middle bottom one, the bottom right line is a bit too extreme, though I guess that could make sense if your intended was to go for and extreme angle. overall I think you’re totally good to continue!!! Keep on going!!

Hope this helps!! :D

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11:29 PM, Tuesday March 8th 2022

OH I DIDNT SEE THE OTHER REPLYS LOLLL

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