Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes

8:18 PM, Friday August 20th 2021

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Hello everyone,

First time doing this sort of thing and hope I haven't misread a rule or something somwhere. Please forgive me if that's the case. Over the past week I've gone through the first lesson and am now submitting for feedback.

I now have a love/hate relationship with rotating boxes but am starting to puzzle it together it feels. At least, how the concepts are protrayed through the lessons.

I really don't know what to say, other than thank you for the time anyone takes to help me figure out where I'm needing more and more improvement. Doing all this to further my goals feels like Carl Sagan's "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, first you must invent the universe."

Oh yeah, some images were edited to erase something I had to hastily write down on the nearest piece of paper, as well as a doodle (I did it after the assignment was finished, I swear!)

So, yeah. Thank you all!

-Kraken

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7:25 AM, Saturday August 21st 2021

We recommend keeping your pages clean, if you’re able. On a similar vein, try not to cross things out. Living with your mistakes is something you’re going to need to be able to do, and this is the first step towards that. Hi, I’m TA Benj, and I’ll be looking over your submission.

Starting off, your superimposed lines are looking quite good. They’re smooth, properly lined up at the start, and of a consistent trajectory. There’s the occasional issue with fraying on the left, or stopping too short on the right, so I’ll recommend not going on auto-pilot when drawing these, if you can. The ghosted lines look solid, save for those 2 superimposed lines on that page – try not to mix and match exercises. Also, see if you can make your points a little smaller. The idea is that a perfect line should swallow them both. The ghosted planes look good, though you’ve not plotted any start/end points for the non-diagonal center lines of the planes. Remember: all lines need start/end points, because all lines are drawn using the ghosting method (plot points, ghost between them, execute).

The table of ellipses exercise is a little mixed. For one, your ellipses are a little stiff. Remind yourself that what we’re most concerned with here is not accuracy, but rather confidence. It’s important to have a clear goal, when drawing these ellipses, to be able to achieve that confidence – a lot of your ellipses here do not – a example is page 1 row 3 (the entire row). Finally, remember to draw through your ellipses a full 2 times, at minimum. The ellipses in planes look solid. They’re at ties a little bumpy, so, again, remember that the most important thing here is that they’re smooth, and rounded, not that they snuggly fit inside of their frames. The funnels look good, too, though I’d draw them a little bigger, next time.

The plotted perspective exercise looks good, but it’s linework is a little scratchy. This exercise is done using a ruler, so there’s no excuse for this, really.

The rough perspective exercise is the same. Be a little leaner with your linework, please. Each line is drawn once, and only once, regardless of how it turns out. As for the exercise itself, both convergences and linework look good by the end, but not so much before that. Getting an exercise wrong because you lack the skill is fine – that’s why you’re here; getting it wrong because you lack patience, however, is not – at the very least, extend all of your correction lines to the horizon.

The rotated boxes exercise seems to be missing its visual reminder boxes. The exercise itself looks fine – the boxes being snug, and properly rotating – though the latter does not extend to their far planes, and the boxes themselves are a little stretched, too. This is fine, however. All we expect of our students here is for them to see the exercise through to the end, which you have.

The organic perspective exercise looks mostly good. A few things. First, don’t use a pencil (or any other tool) for anything in this course. Second, something I’ve already mentioned: don’t correct an incorrect line. Third, again something I’ve mentioned, but that I’ll mention again because it’s important: draw start/end points for all lines. This is particularly important here, where, if you don’t, you’ll be thinking of a number of things at the same time, undermining our philosophy of thinking before we draw, not as.

Next Steps:

Definitely take note of this things to improve in your warmups. As you do, feel free to progress through the box challenge.

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
9:18 AM, Saturday August 21st 2021

Thank you Benj, for taking the time to look over my stuff. Apologies for it being messy of any sort. Life gets in the way a bit and things get a tad chaotic.

A few questions, if you've the time to answer:

1.) Do you have any advice for keeping my line work cleaner? It always seems to turn out the darkest line possible. I'm using the Staedtler fineliners and I can't seem to get the line to be more gentle. That's why I used a pencil for the 'swooping line' in the organic perspective, elsewise it always just had this massive black line that was more confusing than helpful for me. And pencil was recommended for the rough perspective (To plot the lines back should you not have a different colored pen), so I thought this was okay. Not arguing, just trying to keep things straight.

2.) Does it help more to finish out an absolutely demolished exercise or to just leave it? Such as some of the things I marked out. I was trying to remove them from your consideration, and if I'm honest, save myself the trouble of them by just moving on.

I've already moved onto the 250 box challenge (I didn't know what to do while sitting around; have reached 20 so far) and will take this advice into that and going forward.

Thank you again for the critique. It was painful, but not as bad as I thought it would be.

  • Kraken
10:17 AM, Saturday August 21st 2021

1) Not at all, that's my mistake for phrasing it like that. For correction lines, frames, and things of that sort, any kind of tool is fine (though we'd prefer a pen, if you've got one (red for corrections, black for everything else)). Anything involving the exercise, on the other hand, should be done strictly with pen. Generally, we try to discourage students from using pencil, at all, as it's a slippery slope of what you can and can't plot with it, and what you can and can't erase if you mess up, but I suppose it's not too bad, if you're mindful of our philosophy as you use it. As for your question, the darkness of the line isn't a concern of ours; you're using the same pen for everything, so everything ends up looking the same, anyway. It is an issue if you're pressing too hard, because that means that you're stiff, but there's none of that here. I was specifically referring to lines being redrawn (i.e., you mess up a line, and redo it).

2) It's important to finish it, for a number of reasons. For one, being able to fix a mistake, by somehow incorporating it into your final drawing is a technique you'll be using in the future - this being the first step towards it. Second, if you give up on something halfway through, you rob yourself of the opportunity of making more mistakes. This is not a good thing, as mistakes are what teach us where our shortcomings lie. It's fine on an exercise where you draw a lot of something, like the rough perspective exercise, but if you were to, let me give an example, restart the rotated boxes exercise every time you made a mistake in it, you'd have dozens of them. On the other hand, a student who has seen it through to the end, has made those very same mistakes, but on the same page, and is able to improve on them all at once, on the second. Finally, more often than not, a mistake is evidence of not having planned well. In some cases (like the exercises where you're designed to fail), this is unavoidable, but in others, it is. If we take your rough perspective exercise as an example, I recall seeing a box there that had lines that weren't parallel/perpendicular to the horizon. Had you taken some time to look at it, after plotting your points, you'd have noticed that. Since, I'm assuming, you didn't, you didn't, and now that mistake is able to remind you of that, at the very least for the duration of that entire page.

Hope this clears things up.

10:31 PM, Saturday August 21st 2021

You're right, I need to be more mindful and thorough in my planning. The hardest hurdle for me is planning, doing, and seeing it come out wrong. Failure is a hard thing to accept when you feel you're so far behind the curve of making art a thing in your life professional and otherwise.

I really appreciate the time you took to help me. Hope to see you all again at the end of the 250 box challenge or when next we meet.

Thank you,

Kraken

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