Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants

10:01 PM, Wednesday January 19th 2022

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Hello friends, my homework for lesson 3 I thought these plants would be easy, but anyway let me know what you think.

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10:36 AM, Tuesday February 1st 2022

Hi! I'll give you a critique.

Arrows

Your lines are done nicely, confident and consistent! The arrows themselves are fine, but they're mostly going across the 2D surface of a page rather than backwards in 3D space. Try compressing the part of the arrow that goes back in space. Don't be afraid of overlaps, and I don't just mean the ones when the arrow turns but rather a huge chunk of the back side of the arrow covered by the front if needed. Example. Think of how clouds would look going further away from you towards the horizon line. You wouldn't see the entirety of each cloud, would you?

Also, some of the overlap shadows are confusing. Make sure to give each individual stroke the same amount of care and make the shadow lines parallel to the edge of the arrow corner.

Leaves

Really great job here! The construction feels solid, especially on the top two leaves. The only thing I'd critique here is be careful how you draw the silhouette for the bottom right 2 leaves. I suggest following the construction line with your pen a bit more before each silhouette spike. Also, the silhouette spikes seem to be going in random directions - I don't know which leaf you referenced but from my experience they usually seem to be consistently pointing to the top of the leaf. Recall this section from lesson one.

Branches

A lot of your ellipses are flat out circles, meaning the branch is pointing straight towards the viewer in those sections. Be mindful of how the branch exists in 3D space. It's ok to stop drawing and think for a bit before putting the pen down on the paper. I'm also noticing a lack of thin ellipses, it's a waste to not use them when you have them in your arsenal. Sometimes it's correct to even use a line, that is when the branch is pointing exactly perpendicular to the camera.

Plants

They look good to me, good job! I recommend posting the reference pictures next time as well so people can have an easier time spotting mistakes.

Here are some minor critiques:

Some of the main branches look very thick. It's fine if it's like that on the reference, but most of the plants I've seen have thinner branches.

I think you could use some line weight since there are areas where it's confusing to determine what's in front of what.

I could be wrong here, but I think we're supposed to have this edge align with the construction ellipse, not the bottom of the leaves in the back as you've put it. Ok I've checked and this is how it's done in the hibiscus demo. I think the reason is, when you're drawing the ellipse, you're copying the visible perspective angle of the petals, not accounting for the ones in the back. But I guess it can be done either way, so do what works best for you.

Ok, that's it. Your accuracy is not perfect in some areas, but that will come with time.

Next Steps:

You've understood the core principles of this lesson, so you can go onto the next one. I do think you can improve in the arrows exercise, so please do 3 more pages of them before starting lesson 4. They're easy and fast so it shouldn't be a problem.

There's a guy who critiqued my lesson 2 and I learned a lot from studying his arrows, it's a great reference point for how the exercise should be done. Take a look! I do wanna note that even in his work, the arrows could be compressed more as they go back into space, I think someone critiqued him on this.

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1:53 PM, Tuesday February 1st 2022

The points you raised in the critique are pretty accurate I'll definitely take them into account as I move to the next lesson. Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it.

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11:41 AM, Wednesday January 26th 2022

The linework is good, but you may want to look back at your brach practice, they look off, mostly because your ellipses aren't the same size or angle along the tube.

Next Steps:

Try to practice your branches until you can get all the ellipses along the length to be the same size, and have better control of the angles.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
5:35 PM, Wednesday January 26th 2022

okay thank you for your time

7:01 PM, Wednesday January 26th 2022

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