250 Box Challenge

3:40 AM, Friday September 3rd 2021

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Hi everyone! Here's my 250 Box Challenge! It's been a long time coming!

Hmm... I wouldn't say it was fun, but I definitely became better at drawing boxes haha

I did write a few random comments on some of the pages... don't worry about them. Also, I tried using no dots for a few boxes, but I went back to the dots after some advice from the community.

In advance, thanks so much for your time!

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3:53 PM, Friday September 3rd 2021

Well done Eagle!. you have shown a lot of improvements at the end of the challenge.Keep up!

Hey Eagle, Its Chiran and I decided to check your submission and offer my insights on it. I'll try as best as possible to provide a helpful analysis on your work.

before we get started these are the name given specifically because of their order and to represent the specific section of the boxes

Newbies - ( 1-100 boxes) 2. Intermediates - (101-200 boxes) and 3. pros - ( 201- 250 boxes).

This feed back will consists of three parts. Alrighty lets start exploring the three parts.

PART 1: THE PRAISES ( The job you did well in the challenge):

  • Checking your mistakes: your mistakes are slowly reducing in the challenge because of the line extention method (that is checking your mistakes by extending the correction lines away from the viewer) , because of this your Intermediates and pros are looking good. so thats great!

  • while line weight and hatching are optional in this challenge. I'm glad that you did take time to use those tools to reinforce the form you are constructing ( in this case box). we advice you to continue using those tools even in warm ups to build mileages with them.

  • I can say that you are building a sense of confidence and patience in drawing your boxes by plotting down the starting and end points of the lines first before executing them or before committing them, so thats nice.

  • another job you did well was constructing various varieties of boxes in this challenge without repeating the similar type of boxes. so thats great too!

  • You got some pretty decent amount of convergence on the intermediates and pros so good job on that too!

PART 2: WHERE IT WENT SLIGHTLY OFF? ( Where you should keep an eye on) ( No worries part!)

I think you are Quickly headed in the right direction and you have understood the concept of perspective very well so the box challenge has done its job.but there are some hiccups in your work that needs to be identified and removed.

so yeah I will do my job to mention and identify some of the minor issues in your works and you can do your job by including 1-2 boxes in your warm ups to reduce them in the future.

  • The main issue I noticed in your work is wobbly and subtle S curves in the lines. It may be due to thinking about perfection/ accuracy resulting in a slow and hesitant lines. or It may be due to not using the shoulder to execute the lines.

  • Sometimes your hatching lines are not planned before executing. So we advise you to take your time to plan ( planning means plotting down the points and ghosting over them before executing) even the hatching lines and super imposed lines and execute them from your shoulder with confidence as the utmost priority. Don't get caught up on accuracy cuz It will create wobbly and uneven Lines.

  • of course you had improved throughout the challenge but there are times where some of the set of lines converges at a faster rates than the others resulting in converging in pairs. yep this issue you can definitely work on, in your warm ups. by trying to know the relationships between each lines related to its distance.

  • It's completely and totally normal to have the back corner line slightly off compared to the rest.they have significantly improved at end of your work so nice job!.

PART 3: THE JOB WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE OUR BOXES IN OUR WARM UPS:

You're making good progress towards understanding the concepts introduced in this challenge, below I'll be listing some things that will hopefully help you in your future attempts at these boxes.

  • Always make an effort to take your time while adding line weight and hatching to boxes in order to reinforce the solidity we are conveying. make sure to plan them before executing them.because every marks we make should serve its purposes.

  • THE INNER CORNER PARADOX: In this challenge, we are estimating where our lines going to converge to a point. as we are humans, it is almost impossible to perfectly estimate where our lines will going to converge thereby resulting in an error. this error will continue to accumulate as we construct the box freely rotated in space. finally this accumulated error will be thrown to the back corner. So its pretty normal to have the inner back corner come out pretty off.

I want to take a look at this info here;https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png

In this image we can know that how each line will behave relating to the position from its neighbouring edges and the VP.So we can arrive at the conclusion that, If the distance between the internal edges and external edges gets reduce more and more they will eventually become parallel to one and another ( but keep in mind they will converge slightly at a negligable amount no matter what). Alternatively If the distance between the internal corner and the external grow more and more the internal line will also converge.

you can also try and start from the back corner if the box is narrower.https://imgur.com/a/DHlA3Jh.

if your aware of these notes, then you need to build mileage by including 1-2 boxes in your daily warm up routine. after that your boxes will get better and better and will eventually make you happy at the end. :D

  • And as always continue to experiment with your boxes and have fun with it. try to construct some bigger and extreme foreshortening boxes as well in your warm ups. experimentation, observation and results ( like in practicals :D) is always important for our growth.

MY POINT OF VIEW:

we all know, this challenge was very intimidating because of constructing 250 boxes arbitrarily rotated in 3d and yet you did a great job by keeping persistent till the end with lots of effort, focus, energy and time so hats off for that.

" A BOX A DAY KEEP OUR ISSUES AWAY"

Yes, We've come to the end of this feedback. overall, this was a solid submission Your submission reveals that you did take time to read through the lesson materials, followed the instructions and executed to your best of your ability. so that's good job!..thank you for submitting your assignment to the community I will mark this challenge as complete.

hurray ! we have completed this challenge. congratulations!. I hope this feedback helps . Have a wonderful artistic journey. keep goin

Thank you Eagle.

Next Steps:

what next?

1.feel free to move onto lesson 2.

  1. provide some time for your warm ups at the beginning of your drawing session. don't forget about the lesson 1 Exercises.

Thank you!

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2:58 PM, Sunday September 5th 2021

Thank you so much for your detailed feedback Chiran! I like the "box a day" idea; after having done 250, I think 1 box for warmup will be very manageable haha.

However, I must admit that I haven't done any of the Lesson 1 exercises for a while now. How often and how much should I be revisiting those?

4:49 PM, Tuesday September 7th 2021

You are Welcome Eagle. I'm glad that you found my critique Helpful.

For Warm ups, You can choose any 1-2 exercises which you need to Improve on from lesson 1 ( like for example If you chose Ellipses in planes and Super imposed lines Today and do it for 10-15 minutes striving towards the goal. Then you can Change to rough point perspective boxes and table of ellipses tomorrow. if In case, if you feel you need to practice more of super Imposed lines exercises then you can Incorporate these Instead of table of ellipses or Rough point perspective)

Above Is just an example, there are no hard and fast rule to do Warm ups. If you feel these exercises are need to be worked on then you need to practice them regularly in warm ups session before the beginning of your drawing session. I highly suggest to do warm ups consistently in order to maintain our skills sharp. if you are not able to provide some time to it You can do it in alternative two or three days. in that case at least providing 5- 10 minutes is enough In my opinion.

On the subject of revisiting the Lesson- We should revisit those articles and video lectures because most of time we tend to forget some points that are mentioned in those. I normally re visit the lessons articles around a 1- 2 months after completing those exercise. After that I will revisit them in after 2 month to refresh my memory and understanding of those lessons.

Doing critiques will definitely help in reinforcing our understanding of those lessons. So i highly suggest them.

So yeah Thank you soo much for your time and effort in responding to my feedback.

have a great year ahead!.

2:48 AM, Wednesday September 8th 2021

Right oh, that makes sense. I did find ellipses quite difficult in general, so I might focus on them for now.

Thanks for the advice Chiran! Hoping I can become a great critiquer like you one day!

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