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9:13 PM, Wednesday November 18th 2020

I regret not stressing my point about "take your time" at the end there enough. Given that a little under a day and a half passed between me finishing my critique, and you submitting your revisions, you appear to have managed to get quite a few things done in a pretty limited timeframe:

  • Going through my critique, absorbing the information there, reflecting upon how you might change your approach to improve.

  • Normal warmup routines.

  • Drawing 4 separate complex animal constructions (taking the time to observe them carefully and consistently, thinking through every mark you draw, applying the ghosting method as needed, considering the relationships between all the forms you constructed, etc.)

  • Adhering to the 50% rule from Lesson 0

To put it simply, I don't feel that this is an accurate representation of the best you could have accomplished. It's not that the work is badly done overall, it's that they're don't show that much of an improvement over your last set, and overall I'm being given the impression that you jumped right into the drawings instead of taking much time to reflect and think and process. That is unfortunately not how this course should be approached.

I will point out areas that you didn't show much improvement, or where you have issues that need to be addressed, but I will do so briefly:

  • The matter I raised in my last critique about considering where our additional masses press up against other forms, and how that is what causes the complexity of inward curves and corners - you still have a tendency to add complexity that has no clear source. Take a look at this diagram. Note how when it's floating on its own, the mass is just a ball, and it only gets more complex when it is pushed against that box. If you look at the masses along the back of this elephant they've got arbitrarily wavy edges with no real explanation as to what is causing that wavy pattern. You need to be more conscious of how you're drawing the silhouettes of those forms.

  • Also on the topic of additional forms, adding a contour line to the surface of an additional mass (as you did quite a bit in your last drawing) generally isn't going to help much. Those contour lines help a form look solid on its own, but it won't help define how that form wraps around the structure beneath it. That is the main focus of these additional masses - the way their silhouette is drawn establishes how it really "grips" the structure it's attached to, and if the silhouette isn't drawn correctly, contour lines won't fix that.

  • You're pretty consistently drawing the ribcages too small. As discussed in the lesson, the ribcage of animals is generally around 1/2 the length of the torso.

  • I can see that when approaching head consturction, you've stopped drawing your eye sockets as basic ellipses and have started using straight lines. That's a step in the right direction, but you still have a ways to go. Take a look at this demo I just added to the informal demos page, and read the accompanying text.

  • When using the sausage method, I'm not seeing you defining the joint between sausages with contour lines, as shown in the middle of this diagram.

I'd like you to do 6 pages of animal constructions, and I want you to do no more than one in a given day. Take your time absorbing the information presented to you in the original critique and in this one, as well as thinking through every mark you draw and observing your reference frequently. You can invest far more time into a given drawing than you are right now. The focus is not on getting everything done quickly - it is about learning from the process. This doesn't only occur when actively drawing, it is something our brain works through even in the time between drawing sessions.

Next Steps:

Please submit 6 additional pages of animal constructions, adhering to the restrictions I mentioned at the end of my feedback. Oh, and don't forget about the 50% rule.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
2:24 PM, Wednesday November 25th 2020

https://imgur.com/a/HsTJ1aK

I included my self critiques for each drawing in the submission, I feel that that way you could know more about what problem did I realize myself and what I didn't. Following your advice, I took nearly twice as much time as before on a single drawing as a result, but the extra time gave me the opportunity to think through every mark.

Additional forms is a problem I think I solved during these 6 drawings (which I might still didn't, if my understanding of these are still pretty distorted), and head constructions are still a problem, which is normal, I think. I think I relied too much on luck for the starting masses, as big ellipses and curves are still a pretty big problem for me, although warmups helped with that quite a bit.

I'm still not sure about if this amount of growth is too little for a single lesson, but I think you'll give an answer to that in the critique. Thanks in advance.

P.S. although I skipped a day, that still could not look like 6 or 7 days have passed because timezones, that's very unlikely, but I'll mention that just in case.

7:52 PM, Wednesday November 25th 2020

Alrighty, this is all very much moving in the right direction. Note that I generally ignore self-critique, as I don't want it to interfere with my own critique, so I might call out things you already called out for yourself.

There are still some things you need to continue working on, but I think you can continue to develop in those areas on your own:

  • As shown here, don't just pile up forms right on the top of the animals' backs. Let them come down and wrap along their sides, and consider how they wrap around the bigger shoulder masses. Shoulder areas are usually quite beefy since they drive the motion for walking. Same with hips.

  • Whenever your additional masses end up with some kind of corner or inward curve, it's going to be in response to the form pressing up against something else, as shown here. If you end up with such a corner or inward curve, you need to understand the nature of what it's pressing against, and should probably even define it.

  • Your head construction's improving but the eye socket shapes can use some work. Here's a new breakdown of basic head construction - I'd recommend drawing along with it, and be sure to read the description along with it.

Anyway, I'll go ahead and mark this lesson as complete. Still room for improvement, but you're headed in the right direction.

Next Steps:

Feel free to move onto the 250 cylinder challenge, which is a prerequisite for lesson 6.

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
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