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11:54 PM, Friday August 12th 2022

Hello!

Congratulations on getting through your first lesson!

I'll be handling your critique;

Lines: The one thing that I'd like you to keep in mind with your lines is that the lines should always first and foremost be smooth and straight. In your lines I see mostly wobbling more so than curving. So remember to take your time to apply the ghosting method before drawing the line confidently, using your shoulder to execute the line in one one smooth stroke. The slight wobbling also seems to indicate that you have slowed down, so at the beginning especially it is advised to draw your lines faster. In the superimposed lines exercise keep in mind that the line should not fray on both sides: remember to start your lines from the starting dot. Also, your superimposed lines are all straight lines. In the future I'd recommend adding curved lines into this exercise when doing warm-ups as the ability to go over curving lines again to add line-weight becomes really useful in the later lessons. I don't see any cases of you redrawing your lines, which is a good thing! In the future I'd like you to pay extra care to your line quality and only after getting that down worrying about accuracy.

Ellipses: In the ellipses I see some wobbling as well. Just as with lines the goal is to have your lines be smooth and confident. Another thing to keep in mind is that they should be evenly shaped. You can take a look at this to see more concrete examples: https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/a76a8906.jpg .I also see some hook type of things on the top of your ellipses. Try to get rid of those. So with ellipses remember to draw confidently, using the ghosting method until you feel ready to execute the mark. When executing your lines draw with your shoulder without worrying about accuracy. Drawing ellipses with a greater speed might also help you. You have remembered to draw through your ellipses. Good job on that!

Now I'm going to point out things about your accuracy. Accuracy in ellipses is probably hardest thing in this lesson, which is why these things are completely normal mistakes to make. I am saying this for you to have as a future reference, so please do not worry about accuracy right now, Ellipses should be kept within bounds of each other or the borders in the exercise tables of ellipses. Also, I'd recommend having more variety in the angles of your ellipses as shown here: https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/f4181ea2.jpg . Your ellipses seem to be mostly upright. In the ellipses in planes the ellipse should ideally touch all four sides of the planes. In the funnels the minor axis should cut the ellipses in two symmetrical halves. You have succeeded in this in some cases. Great job!

Boxes: Plotted perspective: good job! Nothing to mention there. Rough perspective looks good as well. The main thing in that to keep in mind is to have the height lines perpendicular to the horizon line and the width lines parallel to the horizon line. You have succeeded in this in most of the cases. Well done! In the rotated boxes the boxes farther back should be rotating little more. Organic perspective exercise looks also good. One thing I will mention for your box challenge is that remember to keep the initial "Y's" angles should all be greater than 90 degrees to avoid distortion as seen here: https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/7e325b33.jpg .

Overall you have done all your exercises well! Good job! Before I mark your lesson complete I'd like you to do a page of Ellipses in Planes where I want you to put extra care into making confident marks. Despite the nature of the exercise I don't want you to focus on accuracy in your ellipses rather try to aim for an evenly shaped ellipses that don't have wobbling in their lines. Also try to draw each line carefully ad well without wobbling. The other things I mentioned you can address in your warm-ups.

Feel free to add the link to your ellipses in planes exercise in the comments below.

Next Steps:

1 page of Ellipses in Planes.

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6:38 AM, Saturday August 13th 2022

Hello,

https://imgur.com/a/hLywgSv

To complete my submission, I have attached 2 previously missing pages of Ellipses in Planes, as well as the requested third extra page.

Thank you for the detailed feedback! I will keep it in mind as I continue.

9:16 AM, Saturday August 13th 2022

Hello!

Thank you for submitting your revision. Looking at the ellipse in plane in the left bottom corner, the ellipse is looking quite nice and the lines are mostly smooth and straight. Well done! One thing to keep in mind though is that the line shouldn't curve right at the end. This usually happens when the student tries to correct their line at the end to meet the dot. But that being said it shows you are going in the direction.

Despite all the critique I provided, you have done a really good job with all the assignments. You have followed the instructions very well! Keep up the good work! :)

You are ready to move on to the 250 box challenge.

Next Steps:

250 box challenge.

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3:14 PM, Wednesday August 10th 2022

superimposed lines and other lines are wobbly.

to follow how to do properly:-

https://youtu.be/UK6hgH4UeUs?list=PLQzfPQVzjLdrWojiWIXmafboPte268aaG

as well for the others as well:-

make sure you don't rush:-

https://www.youtube.com/c/ScyllaStew

Next Steps:

I hope you do this again and send it here as revision.

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12:27 AM, Thursday August 11th 2022

There are two issues I need to bring to your attention:

  • You appear to be vastly underestimating what kind of time and effort goes into providing feedback that is helpful to students. Twice today students have marked your feedback as unhelpful, so that your feedback could be disregarded (the system otherwise would regard their work as having received feedback, thus dropping its position in the list and reducing its chances of getting further feedback from others).

  • Your choice to assign a full redo of the lesson material here is really off base. While you are correct that they are not executing their marks with as much confidence as they require, it is not nearly to the degree that would require a complete redo of the entire lesson. If that's not what you intended to assign, then it certainly wasn't clear. I will say that linking to Scylla's videos is certainly a good thing to do, so I'm glad you're referring to other material, but unfortunately you simply cannot reasonably assign someone a full redo of the lesson without really explaining why. While I certainly don't expect you to know exactly how I would handle a situation, for future reference, in a situation like this I'd simply stress that the student should make a point to execute their marks with full confidence, free from any hesitation or concerns of accuracy, as they move into the box challenge. After all, the box challenge has them drawing 3000 additional freehand lines, so they're going to have ample opportunity to correct that issue.

Not everyone is in a position to invest the kind of time that useful feedback really demands, but that simply means that those individuals who cannot should, instead of attempting to provide feedback that falls short, leave it to someone else who does have more time to offer. If you do have plenty of time but are simply unsure of how to provide feedback that provides a clear assessment of what the student did right, what they did wrong, and what their next steps should be, then I strongly recommend that you take a look at the unofficial critique guides Elodin's created for Lesson 1, the Box Challenge and Lesson 2. They are effectively checklists that allow you to go through every major section and provide useful feedback for both.

2:32 AM, Thursday August 11th 2022

okay i will keep this in mind and do it better. thanx for bringing in this attention

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