Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants

12:31 PM, Wednesday June 2nd 2021

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I think I didn't work hard enough in this lesson. Like, I probably could've draw way much more.

Still, it feels like I'm more and more grasping the solidity of the forms.

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9:40 PM, Thursday June 3rd 2021

Starting with your arrows, your linework is confident, so you're doing a good job of capturing how those arrows actually move through space with a sense of fluidity. Do however remember that as we look farther back in space, the gaps between the zigzagging sections ought to get more compressed, as shown here.

That sense of fluidity carries over nicely into your leaves, although I do agree that the quantity here is kind of lacking. This general feeling that you're not putting as much time into each individual page as you could does hold throughout the entire set - whenever you get the feeling that you're not doing enough, it's definitely time to reflect on how you decide how much to put into each page. There are a lot of ways in which your efforts can vary - from something as simple as how much time you're putting into each individual mark (taking the time to apply the ghosting method, planning and preparing, all that to every single mark is important to ensure that the control behind your marks is adequate), to ensuring that you're spending lots of time observing your reference images to identify all of the information that is present there, rather than spending most of your time drawing (and therefore relying on more simplified memories of what was present in your reference). And of course, there's just the question of whether you're really using all the space available to you on the page.

Drawing big is important, and you're definitely doing that. It helps us engage our brain's spatial reasoning skills as we draw, and also makes it easier to engage our whole arm for our marks. So, our first priority is always going to be to give each drawing as much room on the page as it requires. Once that's done, however, we need to assess whether we have more room available to us on the page to add another. With the page of leaves, you could argue that there isn't enough room to draw quite as big, but if the gaps between your leaves were tighter, you could probably squeeze in a few more.

Anyway, getting back to the exercise itself, I am pleased to see that you're building each individual little bump of edge detail individually. That said, you do need to take more care to ensure that those marks come off the existing edge, and return to it, creating a seamless circuit without gaps or pieces sticking out, as they do here. Creating a properly closed silhouette is important to ensure that the form reads as being solid and real. This kind of sloppiness can easily be avoided - it's just a matter of investing more time.

Moving onto your branches, from what I can see, you aren't following the instructions entirely here. As explained here, the segments are meant to overlap quite a bit, with one extending halfway to the next ellipse, and the next starting at the previous ellipse. Your overlaps are much smaller, resulting in a less smooth and seamless transition from segment to segment.

Finally, your plant constructions are moving in the right direction, but again - when it comes to the initial linework at the beginning of a construction, you do have a tendency to rush, resulting in a less solid foundation upon which to build the construction. It seems like you're focusing more time towards the end portions of a drawing, as though decorating what you've built is more important - but it is actually the reverse. More of your time should be invested into constructing a more solid structure, taking care to ensure that the flow line of each petal or leaf conveys a sense of motion, and also being sure that every constructional phase builds directly on the one before it.

All in all you're really not doing too badly, but it really does feel like you're trying to put in way less effort and time - maybe to get through the lesson quickly, and that really isn't how this course works. Your primary responsibility as a student here is to execute each drawing, and each component of each drawing, to the best of your current ability. You don't need to finish a drawing or a page in any particular amount of time - not in one sitting, not in one day. You can have a single drawing take as many days as you feel you need to do what is your current best.

Now there are a couple more concrete suggestions I have to help keep you on the right track, but as a whole you are moving in the right direction. You just need to invest more time, is all, so the revisions I include below are going to be pretty minimal. Before that, here are the issues I noticed:

  • Make sure that you remember that the flow line of a petal or leaf establishes both how it moves through space, and how long it's going to be. You did this pretty well in most of the petals on the flower on the right side of this page, but the left one has a lot more overshooting. The relationship between your constructional steps should be tight and direct.

  • Regarding the same page, remember that the degree of an ellipse (like those in the stems/branches) conveys its orientation in space relative to the viewer. Make sure you think about that when drawing those ellipses, instead of drawing arbitrary ones. You can learn more about this in the more recent update of the lesson 1 ellipses video.

  • For the potato plant, you followed it in a very arbtirary fashion, choosing to add certain aspects of it, but not others. I think in general you just didn't invest as much time as you could have into observing the demonstration's steps themselves. Most notably, you didn't have most of the leaves cast shadows. Every filled area of solid black in this drawing is meant to be a cast shadow - the larger areas that you did copy are just where the foliage is so thick that it covers the ground beneath in shadows. Of course, if we don't have the other leaves casting shadows as well, we lack the context to communicate this to the viewer - making them think that we've just filled that space in arbitrarily with black, for no actual reason. When you get into placing any cast shadows in a drawing, make sure that all of its forms are casting shadows consistently.

So, as promised, you'll find a few pages of revisions below. I have high hopes for you - you're following most of the instructions correctly, but you are perhaps underestimating what you yourself are capable of, given enough time.

Next Steps:

Please submit the following:

  • 1 page, half of leaves, half of branches.

  • 2 pages of plant constructions.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
5:37 PM, Thursday June 10th 2021
edited at 6:12 PM, Jun 10th 2021

Here's the link with the revisions.

I do have to say, I have been struggling with bad time management. I'm following this art curriculum and on it's structure says that you should spend a month in each term. So I've been trying this and slowly realising that I can't properly retain most of the information I learn because I'm rushing the courses to finish them in a month or so.

Of course I didn't follow the Drawabox course as the curriculum says (I believe you're not a big fan of how this thing tries to rush you through 4 lessons in a row), but I usually study a lesson per month (and sometimes even while trying to follow other courses as well). So thats why I didn't draw as much as I could.

Currently I'm rethinking about how I spend my time. Sometimes I feel like I have a lot of stuff to study in a short period of time, and it seems like a daunting challenge even at the beginning of the month. At the same time, I do want to get better as quickly as I can, but I don't want to burn my self to the point that I won't enjoy drawing anymore. I try to follow the 50% rule but I usually end up not drawing for fun and instead being lazy watching youtube videos and stuff, and when I do draw I don't focus on the drawing as I'd like to because I decided to listen to a podcast or something else to distract me when instead I'd much prefer to focus solely on the drawing.

Anyways, maybe is just a matter of trying to fix my bad habits and organize my time. Thank you for the great critique and I hope I can reach the high hopes you got in me haha.

edited at 6:12 PM, Jun 10th 2021
6:05 PM, Thursday June 10th 2021

At the end of the day, the important thing to keep in mind here is that you are the one who gets to decide how much you bite off. You are in control - not necessarily of how long things will take, but you are in control of how much you decide to take on given the time that you have. There's a lot of comfort that can come from the idea that we are just passive actors, doing what we're told, and that things will turn out however they wish. By instead accepting that the control is in our hands, and that the choices are ours to make (for better or for worse), we take on the responsibility and that can be rather unpleasant.

But it is what we all ultimately need to do, and it's a part of growing older.

Anyway, looking at your work, your leaves and plant constructions are coming along well, though for your branches, you appear to be making the exact same mistakes as before. Perhaps you didn't review my critique or the instructions for that exercise immediately before doing the work, and may have ended up working from faulty memory. That's another facet of taking control - that it is your responsibility to choose when to review the instructions, when to look at the information that has been available to you, to work with one's natural, human tendency to forget and to counteract it.

I'll leave you to reread the information that has already been made available to you on that front, but there is one point I wanted to offer in regards to your leaves. There are two here where you added more complex edge detail - the one on the right was done more correctly, but the one on the left is a little less so.

The key thing to keep in mind is that we're just building upon the structure that already exists. When we choose to work subtractively - that is, making a larger basic leaf silhouette, then cutting back into it, as you've done here - the next marks we draw are effectively defining the cuts themselves, as if they were made by a pair of scissors. You did this correctly on the right side, but on the left you appear to have reconstructed an entire leaf within the bounds of that simpler silhouette.

In a sense, we're drawing the negative space, defining the cuts, rather than drawing the positive space and building a whole new leaf in its entirety.

Anyway, I want you to take another swing at a page of branches before I mark this lesson as complete.

Next Steps:

Please submit 1 page of branches.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
8:21 PM, Thursday June 10th 2021

Here are the branches.

I finally understood the overlapping of the lines! So that's why my linework was so messy on my first attempts. Though I think my execution is still kind of lacking, especially my ellipses.

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