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4:42 AM, Saturday March 14th 2020
edited at 6:49 PM, Mar 14th 2020

Hey Uncomfortable! Here are my extra drawings: https://imgur.com/a/3tDosv2 and here are some disastrous attempts that I am sharing just for transparency: https://imgur.com/a/XtmOUMQ

I had a very difficult time with both the Ladybug and the Mantis. I wanted to tackle these again to see if I can achieve something more 3D with your notes in mind. In both of them, one of the things that I am still struggling to understand is how the shell in Ladybug, or the extra form in Mantis' torso would be drawn if we wanted to draw through it.

My understanding is that we should draw through the forms, however the demos don't seem to represent that? For example, looking at your ladybug drawing in the Drawabox Lesson 4: An Introduction to Drawing Insects and Arachnids video, the shell doesn't seem to be enveloping the invisible part of the abdomen. So the shell looks like it's sitting on top of the abdomen and torso rather than enveloping it fully.

When I try to draw through the forms, I get a semi-successful representation, but it sometimes turn out a little confusing especially if the form I am adding is tricky. (like the form on Mantis' torso)

Anyhow, I did my best with my current level of understanding. The results don't necessarily feel right but certainly feels like an improvement since my last submission, so hopefully your feedback will help me push through my other confusions/failures.

P.S: I thought Ladybug would be the simplest to draw and somehow it is still giving me the most trouble.

edited at 6:49 PM, Mar 14th 2020
7:55 PM, Saturday March 14th 2020

You're showing a definite move in the right direction here, and your general constructional approach is considerably better, though there are is one thing you need to really focus on as you move forwards.

Above all else, spend more time observing your reference images - there are a lot of cases where what you're drawing doesn't actually reflect the nature of the reference. For example, if we look at the praying mantis' claws, the "tarse" (the slim extension that comes off their front arms) has been drawn as having a great deal of girth to it, even though in the reference it is extremely skinny. Similarly, the praying mantis' back legs were drawn as basic, thick tubes, which doesn't match the reference. Overall, your proportions aren't entirely accurate, and I suspect that this is because you're spending more time looking away from your reference than you should be, resulting in a greater reliance on your memory.

Now, your issue with the ladybug, I believe stems largely from a misunderstanding:

For example, looking at your ladybug drawing in the Drawabox Lesson 4: An Introduction to Drawing Insects and Arachnids video, the shell doesn't seem to be enveloping the invisible part of the abdomen. So the shell looks like it's sitting on top of the abdomen and torso rather than enveloping it fully.

Your assessment is accurate, because that is what the shell does. It sits on top of the abdomen and wraps around it, but does not envelop it fully. The only reason we start out with the "invisible" abdomen is because it is a simpler form, whereas the shell itself is somewhat more complex. So starting off with a basic ball and then wrapping a more complex shell along its surface allows us to achieve that greater level of complexity while maintaining the illusion of solidity for the whole form.

Overall, you're doing a good job of constructing your forms (although I think you slipped up somewhat with the wasp where your leg segments aren't simple sausage forms and as such tend to feel kind of flat), but your biggest pitfall is that the forms you're drawing don't reflect the proportions present in your reference. Looking at that same wasp, we can see even large elements - like the wings - where what you've drawn differs immensely.

Proportion and observation is difficult to be sure, but I think taking the time to invest more into observation and relying less on your memory will give you a big jump forward. There will still be smaller things that will continue to be difficult, and those will progress more slowly with practice, but the key here is that a change to your approach - drawing only a single stroke or form at a time before looking back to your reference, and being more aware of how they reflect what is present in the reference, will increase the believability of your drawings quite a bit.

I'm going to go ahead and mark this lesson as complete, as what I've mentioned here will continue to come up in the next lesson, and I think you'll be able to work on them there just as well as you do so here.

Next Steps:

Feel free to move onto lesson 5.

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
8:23 PM, Saturday March 14th 2020

Thanks again for the feedback! I definitely dropped the ball on proportions. I was way too focused on construction on these drawings, but I'll make sure to take more time for observation in the next lesson.

For the ladybug question, I thought maybe a demonstration would help explain my question. When I mentioned drawing through the forms, I was talking about something like this (excuse the drawing with mouse) because of how the shell seems to cover everything but the bottom part in this reference. (warning: it's the underside of ladybug and a bit disgusting)

Not a terribly important thing, but it was something I spent quite a bit of time to figure out, so I thought I'd bring it up.

9:29 PM, Saturday March 14th 2020

I really wish I hadn't clicked that link. Ladybugs remind me of bedbugs, and it only gives me a reason to hate them aside from my traumatic experience developing video games for toddlers that taught them how to count using ladybugs. That and their smell....

Anyway, here's how I'd tackle drawing them. I only actually care about the things I can't see insofar as they relate to what I can see. We "draw through" forms like the legs, because they are visible, and therefore we need to fully understand how they exist in space in relation to the other visible forms. The fact that we can't see all of the horrorshow along their underside is entirely fine - we don't need to draw that, because aside from understanding roughly where the legs connect to the body, it has no bearing on the forms we put down. Looking for additional reference (as you did) is helpful for understanding that one point about where the legs connect, but not beyond that.

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