Lesson 4: Applying Construction to Insects and Arachnids

6:13 AM, Sunday September 26th 2021

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i wonder if i'm applying way too much forms/contours on some insects since i became conscious of it when some people on discord mentioned the word parsimonious, and applying line-weight is still something that i'm struggling with but little by little i'm getting the hang of it, so for the one who'll be critiquing my work, thanks in advance for the time that you'll be committing on my work, i really appreciate it.

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6:34 PM, Wednesday October 6th 2021

Hello LoadsOfSkeptic again, I hope you are well,

Starting with you sausages, you are mostly sticking to the characteristics of simple sausages, there are few rare cases where both ends of sausages aren't exactly both sizes. With your contours I can say that you are adding slightly too many of them. By the rule of thumb we want to use just enough contour to represent our form and also make them feel solid and 3d. For example if we have very straight sausages, we don't need that many contours to show how the form turns in space. So with what I said earlier we should use 1 or 2 contours right? Well no, contours also have a degree to them which tells us how it is turned to us(a viewer) in space https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/5/degreeshift. I don't think that you add too many contours overall, there are few cases where you didn't need to add asmany, but that's fine, we learn by exploring and failing. I can see that you understand how the degree shift in space very well, just keep in mind how many contours do you actually need to represent the form turning in space.

Additionally, your sausages and contours aren't as confident as I would want them to be. You are focusing more on accuracy than confident and smooth curves. Remember to take as much time as needed ghosting and then execute the curve with one smooth stroke.

Moving on to construction, as a whole your drawings feel pretty solid. You also apply the principles of construction fairly well. I can't tell how well you observe the photos since I have small arachnophobia so I don't want to look at the references. I am greatly sorry for that. But it isn't the focus of our exercises here. Even if our drawing doesn't match the reference, but it does feel like it occupies the 3d space. I would call it a win, since we used our construction properly.

There is couple of thing I want to point out

  • You draw the legs of insects as just sausages. Simple sausages are just the basic underlying structure to work on. We want to build additional forms on top of them. These diagrams show a proper way how to build a complex leg with simple forms https://imgur.com/7b9rc9e and https://imgur.com/LjQ53ao

  • Also when we add other additional forms, we want to think how they wrap around each other form in space, you aren't particularly bad at it, but it could see more work. You can see more of this practice in this ant head demo. We want to constantly think how the forms warp in a 3d space, because we are always drawing 3d mass here, it might look ugly as we have many lines clustered in a small space sometimes, but that's a exercise not a gallery or portfolio piece

  • You often forgot to add an intersection contour when two sausages.

  • Your linework could see more work. It is quite messy as it is now, you are better than at lesson 3 but I can still tell that your lines aren't confident and they wobble. Be sure to take as much time as needed to ghost. Remember to use your shoulder, if possible draw bigger. Drawing small limits us and makes things awkward. Also remember when making photos to capture the borders of your paper. As things are now, I don't know how much space each drawing takes.

  • Lineweight, it did get better from last time, but it still could see more work. When we add a lineweight we want for it to be a confident and smooth line on top of previous line, we want to go over it, I believe that your work would get really better if you focus on your line making. Please look at this diagram for more info https://imgur.com/OHvr7Mb

All that said, I would love to give you a revision with a focus on linework and lineweight as I feel this is something that will greatly improve your ability to draw, so I will request 1 page of organic forms. While making those please keep in mind what I wrote about taking your time and being confident with each stroke. With your construction I feel that you use construction quite well, you don't make any major mistakes, just a bunch of minor ones that will get away in lesson 5 as it goes deeper in those concepts.

If you have any questions feel free to ask,

Have fun during your journey,

Next Steps:

Please 1 additional page of organic forms

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
9:44 AM, Friday October 8th 2021
edited at 9:53 AM, Oct 8th 2021

Hi, Rivgar

it's sad to hear that you have arachnophobia, some spiders are pretty interesting and cute but i get that not all of us view them the same, anyways thanks for taking the time to provide a critique, i really appreciate it. i've gone rusty for the past few weeks from not doing any dab lately and i appreciate you pointing some of those minor issue that will later then build up on the next lessons so i'd like to address them as early as possible and i wouldn't mind doing 2-4 additional pages of this particular exercise again if i don't get the concept that you're trying to convey yet. i really wanna know if i applied what you asked in the critique, i ghosted a lot of times to maintain both circular ends in a sausage but some wasn't consistent, i also tried to limit my contour lines to 3-4 lines only, but i wanna give it another go since i dont think that it's my best, however i'd love to hear what would you think on this https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XmTzh25-LUMWB2M21TIDv0EF5xcCqkVv/view?usp=sharing (sorry for the sausage on the bottom right it got cut off for some reason)

again, thank you for your time.

edited at 9:53 AM, Oct 8th 2021
7:14 PM, Sunday October 10th 2021

Hello, sorry for late reply,

Your contours are looking better. They are smoother than before, but they share the same problem. They don't fit in the sausages. Remember to fit them inside our sausage form. If they go out of bound it breaks the feel of a 3d form and it shows that you didn't take as much time for them as needed or you aren't committing enough to each curve. https://drawabox.com/lesson/2/5/floating

But your sausages didn't get that much better, most likely due to you being out of shape. Remember to make them smooth, so there aren't any leftovers from our strokes like there. https://imgur.com/a/BeDQEXI

Since you are willing to do more, I will assign 2 more pages of sausages to do. Remember to do a warm up before drawing them.

Take as much time as needed for each stroke. Curved lines need even more time compared to straight ones. Don't give up, but also don't grind them behind the scenes. Do a few curved imposed lines in a warmup and that should be enough. I am calling that out since I know a lot of ppl that grinded DAB. But grinding DAB doesn't give us that much in the long run.

It is the 1st time I heard that spiders are cute haha. My arachnophobia was really bad a few years ago. But now I am just scared of those big spiders from australia. The thing that I am scared of is how big they actually are. But I am too scared to find out and I don't live in Australia so I don't need to.

Next Steps:

Please submit another 2 pages of organic forms

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
12:05 PM, Monday October 11th 2021
edited at 12:06 PM, Oct 11th 2021

well um, i really don't think there's not much different with the first revision and the 2nd revision, so i know what i am aiming for which is smooth curved contour lines, keeping those snug as well as connecting my sausages without any leftover strokes showing while keeping that in mind i also did ghost a lot of times, but uh well it didn't really go well so here's 2 more of the sausages that i tried to do https://imgur.com/a/HCMkVZ6

edited at 12:06 PM, Oct 11th 2021
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