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Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes

10:08 PM, Sunday July 3rd 2022

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I know I did one of the rough perspective pages wrong: I thought I was supposed to go from the corners to the real VP instead of following my own lines. I fixed it on the second page.

Any tips you can give me in terms of "here are some rules about boxes" in words rather than images would be great; I have dyscalculia and have been having a hard time figuring out why one box looks one way vs. another and a clear set of rules about how a box behaves when you shift, say, the angle of the Y, would be great. I can't always figure out why my sides don't end up parallel.

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11:44 PM, Sunday July 3rd 2022
edited at 12:02 AM, Jul 4th 2022

I feel like sometimes thinking about which plane is is near and which one is further back helps quiet a lot. Think of the vanishing point as being behind the side which is furthest back, 4 lines which represent the parallel edges converge to that point (or 3 in this case since your not drawing through your boxes) which makes that side a bit smaller than the side closest to the viewer. Also, try to play with the length of the three lines forming the Y (ex: keep one normal, increase the length of one a bit and draw one shorter, and then draw the converging lines from there), this is gonna introduces a bit of variation to the width of the sides and show a bit of rotation around different axes.

I don't know if this helped or not, but just keep at it, you're doing great and I'm sure you'll figure it out.

edited at 12:02 AM, Jul 4th 2022
5:34 PM, Monday July 4th 2022

Thank you, that actually does help a lot!

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5:03 PM, Thursday July 14th 2022

Hi. I am not sure that I can help a lot, but I will try to help a bit. It seems that after the two pages of misunderstanding you did the remainder correctly.

About your question: We are supposed to have angles larger than 90 degrees between the arms (and leg) of the why. So, you do not have a lot of latitude to change in principle. In the end they tend to look similar. IF you were to make one angle much larger, then you would end up with one of the planes looking kind of thin or skinny, meaning that the angle at which you are looking at it is such that you do not see a lot of that plane (face).

I found that most of what the different Y's accomplished was that they rotated the boxes. Also, the length of the arms/legs of the Y make a difference, but only in terms of the length/width of the box.

For the rotated boxes, I don't think that the sides are supposed to be parallel at all. Some of the sides would be parallel in two point or one point perspective, namely the ones that you look at face on, but as soon as you rotate things all hell can break loose and nothing has to be parallel anymore. Having parallel sides means that your vanishing point is at infinity, which is the case for one direction in two point perspective and for two directions in one point perspective.

Let me know if this makes any sense at all. Good luck. I am currently drawing lots of boxes for the 250 challenge. Are you, too?

11:05 PM, Thursday July 14th 2022

Thanks! I've been experimenting with the Ys as much as I can and seeing how that changes the rotation. I didn't understand that the sides weren't supposed to be parallel until a friend explained to me what I was missing regarding vanishing points -- which I still don't fully understand, but it's getting somewhere closer.

I am doing the 250 challenge which thus far is going okay, if still slightly frustrating. But they're looking more like what I'm intending at long last.

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