250 Box Challenge

2:24 AM, Wednesday September 2nd 2020

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7:34 PM, Wednesday September 2nd 2020

First off, congrats on making 250 boxes! You can be proud for the rest of your life. The boxes look correct, but few things stand out to me:

  1. Allow yourself to make mistakes! Sometimes when your line misses, you do another one. Please don't do that in next lessons, confident skill is made upon foundation of confident faliure. I see that your lines really improved with the amount of boxes you made, but still you should prioritize confidence over accuracy.

  2. Most of your boxes have very dramatic perspective (perspective points are not far away, that they extend way over the paper you draw on). It is not mistake, dramatic perspecitve helps with doing good forshadowing, but remember that most of the boxes you make will be not as dramatic (the points will go far and beyond, compared to being pretty much next to the box).

Overall amazing job, I like the hatching you made, just remember what I talked about above and you can go to lesson 2. :)

Next Steps:

Congratulations on finishing lesson the box challenge! Your next step is lesson 2

As I marked this as complete, you are now qualified to critique lesson 1 and box challenge submissions.

-Doing critiques is a way of learning and solidifying concepts. I can atest to that after having done hundreds of critiques. There are a lot of concepts that I did not understand, and thanks to critiquing I started understanding them. Which made me learn a lot more through the course.

-Another thing is that as the number of current submissions is super high and if you do some critiques, those would be less submissions I'd have to critique before reaching your next submissions, so you'd get your critiques faster. Uncomfortable also implemented a system that makes your submissions appear higher in the queue if you do critiques, so that would improve your chances even more.

It's totally optional of course, I won't force anyone to give critiques. But me and the other people who are critiquing would be super grateful if you gave it a shot.

Good luck on lesson 2, and keep up the good work!

NOTE: here's a quick guide on critiquing lesson 1 submissions.

and here's another on critiquing box challenge submissions.

There are a few people that feel hesitant to critique because they feel they aren't ready to, so hopefully it'll help you in case you are one of those people.

This community member feels the lesson should be marked as complete, and 2 others agree. The student has earned their completion badge for this lesson and should feel confident in moving onto the next lesson.
4:45 AM, Monday September 7th 2020

Thanks for your comments.

To your point about line confidence I realise this is an issue for me. I have to keep fighting the urge to try & redo my lines. Sometimes I win. Sometimes not.

To start with I was plotting the boxes myself but as I went along I started following the axis generator app. So some a generated by me & some are generated by the app.

Thanks again for taking the time to comment.

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6:40 PM, Friday September 11th 2020

I agree with what Wister808 commented, but there are three additional things that I'd like to point out before I agree with their post and mark this as complete.

First off, every single straight line you make for draw a box should be ghosted-this includes the hatching lines. Ghosting requires a start and end point so that you have a distinct goal.

Second, a good number of your early boxes have line extensions going in the wrong direction. As you practice boxes in perspective and check them in the future, always start from the center point of your initial Y shape. Box 24 has all of the line extensions done correctly. Box 21's blue line extensions should be going left instead of going right. You do it this way because the perspective lines will only cross in one direction and it doesn't matter how far apart they go in the other direction.

Third, as I go through this I'm noticing that you included a lot of half finished or otherwise incomplete boxes in your final count. I think you need to do 10 more boxes so that you don't cheat yourself even if there is great improvement from start to finish. Maybe try some that are at a less extreme perspective?

Next Steps:

10 fully complete boxes (hatching optional) that keep in mind the things that Wister and I mentioned.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
1:21 AM, Tuesday September 29th 2020
edited at 1:32 AM, Sep 29th 2020

https://imgur.com/a/4twCY0S

Hi There,

Thanks for pushing me, I appreciate it. All valid points you made in your comments.

I have drawn an additional 14 boxes as some were abandoned. I allowed mistakes, focused on ghosting every single line, tried less dramatic perspective & checked accuracy from centre of Y- axis.

I have pased the link to the jpegs saved on imgur here.

Thanks again for your time reviewing my drawings.

edited at 1:32 AM, Sep 29th 2020
1:24 AM, Tuesday September 29th 2020
edited at 1:33 AM, Sep 29th 2020

this is added by mistake & I can not delete this additional page

edited at 1:33 AM, Sep 29th 2020
8:02 PM, Tuesday September 29th 2020

Awesome! Excellent work here. I would still do the line extensions on the boxes you abandoned, but I'm pretty happy with these additional boxes.

It seems like you may have struggled more with the second page than the first.

First off, I see that the second page has some interesting boxes that are more 2 point perspective than 3 point perspective. Do you see how only two sides of boxes 10 and 11 are visible? This is a more difficult angle to check, and you may want to extend your green lines in the opposite direction on those two boxes. This happens when one of the inner angles in the initial Y shape is greater than 180 degrees (on both box 10 and 11, that's the angle formed by the top two lines). Not a problem, just an interesting conundrum.

Second, you have a lot of problems with diverging lines on at least one of your three sets of lines. One way to fix this is to check that your dot is placed appropriately and, if it's not in the right spot, to move it! I have had up to 4 dots before I make one that's satisfying. To check that a dot placed will lead your lines towards convergence-place the dot, then ghost from a pre-existing corner as far as you can go. If you're starting with the Y shape, you'll have the matching Y line to check it against. If you notice that the line diverges from the Y line, then make a new dot that is closer to that Y line.

These guidelines are to help assist you into the future! Next step: lesson 2~

Next Steps:

Wister808 has the perfect "what next" steps written in their own critique, but to sum up/refresh your memory!

-Proceed to lesson 2

-Help out with critiquing other lesson 1 submissions and 250 box challenges

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