Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes

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I don't really get the part of rotated boxes and organic perspective, can someone please help me to know where should be the vanishing points on those parts? Thank you very much.

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6:17 PM, Sunday July 5th 2020
edited at 4:45 PM, Jul 9th 2020

Hiya!

For the organic perspective, you decide where the 3 vanishing points of each boxes are, so that they are seen from various angles. However, to quote Uncomfortable, "avoid applying foreshortening that is too dramatic to any of these boxes, especially those further behind. I explain the reason for that in these notes about foreshortening and conveying scale."

Now, for the rotated boxes, the VP progressively moves on one of the main axis depending on the faces of the boxes you're drawing :

https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/12416ea8.jpg

Normally, all lines on a particular box should go towards the same vanishing point. However, this is not true in this exercise, as Uncomfortable points out in the guidelines "Something worth noting: they're not actually cubes. In order for this exercise to work and for all of the boxes to stay nice and tightly packed together, we're actually going to be using boxes that are not perfectly rectilinear or cuboid. Meaning, the far end of our boxes are going to be smaller than the closer end, so they taper in one dimension. It's actually not that important to keep this in mind, but it is a point that has confused some of those who've thought a bit too hard about that particular aspect and distracted themselves with it. So yes - the boxes are tapered, they're not cubes."

Out of curiosity, I tried finding the vanishing points of different boxes in his example, and came up with these results which illustrate his point :

https://imgur.com/a/vSBFgP8

All that to say, for the placement of those vanishing points, apart from putting them on one of the main axis, mostly use your intuition to create something believable. (compare with the examples given if you're unsure) Just make sure that your boxes rotate progressively all the way from front view to side view, that the corners of each boxes are close to one another, and that your lines are clean and show confidence.

About that, try to draw your lines only once, instead of passing over them several times. If your goal is to thicken the outer lines of your volumes, try to merge the subsequent lines better with the first one, otherwise it will end up looking messy. I'm also noticing that your lines in the ghosted lines and ghosted planes exercise seem to curve a lot, so be mindful of that.

Apart from that, your funnels and your plotted perspective exercise seem decent. I would suggest practicing more drawing boxes with a ruler and 1, 2 or 3 vanishing points if you find yourself struggling with perspective in general. As you do and see more of it you'll develop better intuition and you'll be able to tackle more complicated problems. :)

Next Steps:

Redo the ghosted lines and ghosted planes exercises, focusing on trying to do straight lines instead of curved ones, and making sure you're drawing with your shoulder. (on top of trying to be accurate and confident, of course)

Do one page of plotted perspective, with a ruler, but instead of doing it with two vanishing points, do it with only one. (1 point perspective = boxes facing the viewer, 2 point perspective = boxes at an angle compared to the viewer) Basically, you can follow the guidelines for the rough perspective exercise, but do it with a ruler and trace the lines all the way back to the vanishing point. The goal here is for you to get more at ease with 1 point perspective, without having to worry about line accuracy and ghosting.

Then, do at least one more page of rough perspective, freehand this time, paying attention to the lines going towards the single vanishing point, and making your lines as clean as possible.

Redo the rotated boxes and organic perspective exercise, hopefully this time while understanding a little better what you're supposed to do. (if not, I can try answering your questions or explaining it more to you) Again, be mindful of your lines, keeping them as clean and accurate as you can.

This may seem like a lot, but better really understand the fundamentals now than move on and get stuck and confused later. :)

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
edited at 4:45 PM, Jul 9th 2020
1:31 PM, Saturday August 8th 2020

Sorry for the delay, here are my revisions.

https://imgur.com/a/07ol6a9

3:05 PM, Thursday August 20th 2020

Hey! I'm sorry for the delay as well, I was away for a while and didn't see your revisions until now.

I think those show a lot of improvement, and it seems like you've got the hang of it! Your lines will get even more precise with practice, but for now it seems you understand a bit better how to deal with perspective in theory. Good Job! :)

Next Steps:

You can now move on to the 250 boxes challenge!

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