250 Box Challenge

8:11 AM, Monday April 12th 2021

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Shared album - Landerval - Google Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/et3ziMcNunSVSjkt7

Hi DAB communitty,

here is my submission for the 250 Box challenge

Thanks!

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9:53 PM, Monday April 12th 2021

Congratulations for completing the 250 Box Challenge!

I can see you made some good improvement with the quality of your mark making. Your lines steadily become straighter and more confident looking as you progressed through the challenge. You drew your boxes at a pretty good size and with a variety of orientations and foreshortening. You also start to do a better job of getting your sets of parallel lines to converge more consistently towards their shared vanishing points!

For some of your boxes, you appear to have purposely tried to keep your sets of lines parallel on the 2D page, drawing them all to an "infinite" vanishing point. As explained in this section, because these boxes are oriented with us looking at the corner of the box, you should be drawing your boxes in 3 point perspective - meaning with 3 concrete vanishing points, each set of lines converging towards a real point in space, even if that point is far off and the convergence is gradual. At no point in the instructions does it state that you should draw your boxes without any foreshortening. All of the boxes you draw will have some foreshortening even if the convergence is very gradual. The circumstances in which vanishing points go to “infinite” as discussed in lesson 1 are only in specific orientations that run parallel to the viewer. In this exercise we are working with completely random rotations and so those cases are exceedingly rare. You can also watch this video I made where I demonstrate how I approach drawing boxes.

To clarify, when I say "sets of parallel lines" or refer to your sets of lines as parallel, I am referring to lines that are parallel in 3d space not parallel on the page. If you remember from lesson one, the core principle of perspective is that when we draw a 3d form on a flat surface those lines that are parallel in 3d will now converge towards a shared vanishing point on the page.

Which means your sets of lines will not appear perfectly parallel on the page. Think about how those lines converge, do not purposely try to keep them parallel on the page.

I think this diagram will help you as well. When you are looking at your sets of lines you want to be focusing only on the lines that share a vanishing point. This does not include lines that share a corner or a plane, only lines that converge towards the same vanishing point. Now when you think of those lines, including those that have not been drawn, you can think about the angles from which they leave the vanishing point. Usually the middle lines have a small angle between them, and this angle will become negligible by the time they reach the box. This can serve as a useful hint.

Before moving onto lesson 2, I am going to have you draw 20 additional boxes.

For these boxes you will do the following:

  • Use the ghosting method for every mark you make, including hatching and extra line weight

  • Draw all of your boxes in 3pt Perspective

  • 5 boxes per page maximum

  • Check all of your convergences as per the instructions

I will mainly be looking at the quality of your mark making to see if you are employing the ghosting method correctly for all of your mark making, including extra line weight and hatching. I will also be looking at your boxes to make sure your sets of lines are not being kept purposefully parallel.

Make sure you visit every link I have left for you and reread the challenge instructions in their entirety before beginning your revisions.

Next Steps:

20 additional boxes as described in the critique.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
10:07 AM, Tuesday April 13th 2021
edited at 2:25 PM, Apr 14th 2021

Thank you for the reply and critique -

I was indeed drawing boxes with vanishing points so far outside the page that they would be parallel or close to parallel - Reading your advice, it just sounds so obvious that I don't know how I missed it.

Looking at your video, I was doing the same initial steps, starting with the "Y", and then plotting the other dots, but I was not plotting to a VP, but rather a somewhat converging sides, and often my "back" or "behind" corner was often way off because it was a result of the accumulation of the small mistakes from the other lines.

edited at 2:25 PM, Apr 14th 2021
11:11 AM, Wednesday April 14th 2021

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZP3Fg7dWH8TkJQiv7

Here are the additional boxes

thanks :)

12:43 AM, Thursday April 15th 2021

This is a very good improvement! Your sets of lines are doing a better job of converging towards their shared vanishing points.

I will go ahead and mark this lesson as complete and you can now move onto lesson 2!

Next Steps:

Continue to lesson 2!

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
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