Tygerson

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tygerson's Sketchbook

  • Sharing the Knowledge
  • The Observant
  • Victorious
  • High Roller
  • Technician
  • Geometric Guerilla
  • Tamer of Beasts
  • The Fearless
  • Giver of Life
  • Dimensional Dominator
  • The Relentless
  • Basics Brawler
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    7:11 AM, Saturday June 24th 2023

    Hey, congratulations on completing all this! Moving forward, you'll want to submit lessons and challenges separately, but you did it, and that's the important part.

    Lines:

    I see a lot of improvement in lesson 1 on these. They get way more confident by the time you hit ghosted planes.

    Ellipses:

    These are looking pretty good, although you'll want to keep practicing them as part of your 3-5 minute warm up one day. You pass through them twice, and do a variety of types.

    Boxes: These look great--a nice variety, and mostly converging lines. The organic perspective is particularly well done. Your lines are looking pretty confident on most of them. The forced perspective looked difficult for you, but there's improvement on the second page.

    These improved as well during the 250 box challenge. There are a lot of boxes with fairly dramatic convergence in the 250 boxes, but you also did practice them with more subtle convergence, which will apply to more drawings. One thing I did notice that seems to be missing, is that there doesn't seem to be line weight added to the outside of the box. It's probably not critical, but it does help you practice line accuracy and confidence to try to repeat a line.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to lesson 2, and continue to fit ellipses into the warm up routine, including large and more circular ones--they'll be important in lessons 3-5 (organic forms) in particular.

    Just submit one lesson at a time for feedback (challenges count as 1 lesson).

    Also, if you can, join the discord. You can get feedback along the way to make sure you're on the right track (lesson 2 is a bit of a beast). There is a critique exchange that lets you critique 5 lessons in exchange for one of yours being critiqued sooner (read the pinned post). Good luck!

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    6:57 AM, Saturday June 24th 2023

    I couldn't see anything in the link either. Also, there's a critique exchange on the discord. If it takes a while for something to get looked at, using that system can speed things up!

    Next Steps:

    Resubmit the link

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    6:24 AM, Wednesday June 21st 2023

    What about starting off with something like "robotic insect" or "insectoid spaceships?" (Google search those terms and choose the more insect-like ones.) You get the 3 masses and armor plates, but maybe without the "yuck factor?" Only you can tell if it makes a difference to you, of course!

    If your end drawing looks like an insect, maybe it's just fine starting with something that's not exactly an insect.

    6:40 PM, Tuesday June 20th 2023

    Fabulous, that's what I was looking for!

    Next Steps:

    On to lesson 2, and remember to do the 50% work!

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    4:07 PM, Friday June 16th 2023

    Congrats on finishing lesson 1! On to the feedback!

    Lines

    These are, in a word, pretty. Confident, straight, and pretty darn accurate.

    Ellipses

    These are also really solid. You're practicing a variety of sizes, degrees, and angles. You're doing 2-3 passes. I do notice that you have a bit more difficulty with rounder ellipses (closer to circles), and larger ellipses. When you ellipses during warmups, you may want to especially work on these. Lessons 3-5 involve a lot of ellipses, and you'll be using large and rounded ones for things like animal heads and ribcages.

    Boxes

    These look good--you have a good feel for perspective already, and the lines are still clean. You're adding line weight, and varying the sizes. The rotated boxes look solid, as does the organic perspective.

    Next Steps:

    Definitely go on to the 250 boxes!

    During 5 min warmups, occasionally spend some time on rounder and larger ellipses in preparation for lessons 3-5.

    If later lessons take a long time to get critiqued, I recommend going onto the discord. Elodin runs a critique exchange where you can do 5 critiques, and then have 1 of your lessons added to a spreadsheet that will be critiqued within 2 weeks (see the pinned message for details). One of my lessons was taking months, even though I critiqued stuff here, but once I did the official critique exchange, it was finished fast. Also, you can post your lesson-in-progress stuff to the channel for each lesson, and get (or give) earlier feedback.

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    3:48 PM, Friday June 16th 2023

    Congratulations on finishing lesson 1! On to the feedback.

    Lines

    These look reasonably confident, although I'm seeing a bit of wobble in the ghosted planes. Occasionally there are some lines which are drawn and redrawn. Try to just leave it at one line, even if it's somewhat off.

    Ellipses

    The table of ellipses has a nice variety of shapes, sizes, and angles. It looks like you've drawn through them many, many times. 2-3 times is the "official" number. It does look like you mostly corrected that later on in the ellipse drawings.

    The ellipses in planes touch the edge, and are drawn 2-3 times, although you have made some of them a bit egg-shaped and pointed (sort of diamond shaped) to try to hit all the edges.

    The funnel ellipses look pretty good--again, just remember to keep them to 2-3 passes.

    Boxes

    These are looking great, and you already have a good feel for converging lines. The rotated boxes look downright pretty.

    The rough perspective has the right idea, although I notice a fair number of "stray lines." I don't know if those are a "I'm dissatisfied with this line and will therefore redraw it," or an effort to add line weight where you're still building that accuracy.

    Organic perspective: similar to the rough perspective--you have a few stray or overshooting lines, but a great feel for convergence, a nice variety of boxes fading into the distance, and nice lines.

    Overall, this is looking great, and you're ready to move on!

    Next Steps:

    250 boxes!

    Continue to work on your line work. Maintain that good confidence, but do warmups to increase accuracy and be able to stop on a dime (to end the line exactly where you intend). I highly recommend going to the discord. They have a critique exchange where you can do 5 critiques (on lessons you've finished--in this case lesson 1) in exchange for having 1 of your lessons critiqued (details are on the critique exchange channel). While this was critiqued pretty fast, it's possible for lessons to go months without critique, or simply never get it.

    Plus, on the discord, you can post work on each lesson channel as you work through it and also get feedback to know if you're on the right track. You can also of course give others feedback and encouragement, and you'll be connected with people working through the same stuff you are. That really helps as the months grind on.

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    6:22 AM, Friday June 16th 2023

    Hey, congrats on getting through the first lesson! This is overall looking good!

    Lines

    Your lines are looking confident, and pretty accurate as well. Your frayed lines fray at just the one side, and I see you're challenging yourself with curved lines as well.

    Ellipses

    Your tables of ellipses, look great--confident, pretty accurate, and each has 2-3 passes. You also vary the degree, size and angle. Likewise the ghosted plane ellipses look good. Sometimes they don't make the edges, but for the most part they're hitting the points they need to hit.

    Boxes

    Rough perspective: looking good, and you have the corrective lines added in. As annoying as it is, try to avoid scribbling out the occasional line that's off.

    Rotated boxes: They look great.

    Organic perspective: These have a nice variance, and the lines mostly converge. I see a few with diverging lines, but you'll be doing so many of these things in the 250 box challenge that you'll get it for sure. Here's one way to look at making boxes (the key is the lengh and angle of the first few lines you attach to the "y" shape): https://imgur.com/a/CP1JmaB I drew it out one day for my own understanding. If it helps you, cool, if not, ignore it! The convergence is a bit more dramatic than you'll usually want, but I was using powerpoint, and doing my best.

    Next Steps:

    250 box challenge!

    After you do about 20-ish boxes, post them in the "basic challenges" channel and verify you're on the right track before you do 200+ more!

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    6:03 AM, Friday June 16th 2023

    Congrats on getting through your first lesson! Let's get started with some feedback!

    Lines

    Your lines look confident. All the straight lines look smooth, and your frayed lines fray at just the one end as they should. As a nitpick (since you're already confident and pretty accurate in direction), keep working on stopping "on a dime," or rather, on the dot, so you can consciously control where your lines end. You do this most of the time. Also continue to work on the curved lines. The curved ones seem to have a bit more wobble than the straight ones.

    Ellipses

    These are looking confident, and you're passing through them 2-3 times. You're varying the degree and angle, which is also good. Continue on these often during your 5 minute warmups so they get more accurate in preparation for later lessons (mostly 3-5, which deal with organic construction).

    Boxes

    Rough perspective: you get the idea, and you've used the line correction, so that's good.

    Rotated boxes: you have the idea here, although it seems that 8 boxes are missing, mostly from the left and bottom edges (and a bit of the lower right). Each "row" needs 5 boxes, like your middle row has.

    Organic perspective: Again, the general gist of this is good. There are some boxes that have diverging perspective lines, but you'll work on that a bunch on the 250 box challenge. Here's my version of how to build boxes, if it helps: https://imgur.com/a/CP1JmaB

    Next Steps:

    Add in the last 8 boxes for rotated perspective, then move on to the 250 box challenge. Good luck!

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    4:30 AM, Thursday June 15th 2023

    Awesome, and good luck with the next bit!

    Next Steps:

    250 boxes

    I recommend getting feedback after the first 20 or so (on discord "basic challenges" thread--probably the best, reddit, or wherever you can get it), just to verify you're on the right track.

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    7:09 PM, Tuesday June 13th 2023

    Okay, I can't actually see anything when I click the link, but great that you're doing the exercise again!

    Goldilocks speed is a term I made up. Have you read the fairy tale of Goldilocks and the three bears, where the girl tries the porrige (etc) and the first is too hot, the second is too cold, and the third is just right?

    Basically, drawing speed seems similar. If you draw too slowly, you get wobbly, non-confident lines. If you draw too fast, you get confident lines that have near zero accuracy. But if you draw at a speed somewhere in the middle, then with practice, you'll get confident lines that are more accurate. That speed that's "just right" (the most accuracy you can achieve, while maining confidence) is what I call the "Goldilocks speed."

    So for example, your ellipses look confident, which is the most important thing starting off. So that's great!

    Since I see the ends of the lines flying off on the funnels, it looks like they were drawn very fast (I can't actually tell, since I didn't watch the process). It appears that perhaps you might be able to go a bit slower without losing the confidence, and gain a bit more accuracy. You might want to experiment with the speed at which you draw ellipses to see where that happy medium currently is.

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