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    1:10 PM, Tuesday August 8th 2023

    hello, crongrats on finishing L2, it's anything but an easy endavour. worry less about the ellipse, it's completely reasonable, personally it took me until at least until the end of L3 until i could get the hang of it. and just as a reminder, warms ups are done everyday! (so long as the lesson in still in process) just be sure to incorporate some ellipses in there.

    alright enough with the shabang

    Arrows:

    good job here, lines are well executed and confident, overlapping lines, shaded well too. however there is a [lack of compression](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/0f7c806c.jpg),the gap between the arrow lines are to expand as the arrow progresses as is shown [here](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/011d064f.jpg). also another thing, this in't mentioned in the lesson but i believe does help with the illusion of space, but try and make it so that the arrows are also "rotated" as the arrows are as is shown [here](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823181500244688916/1137975270066892871/IMG_20230807_120546.jpg?width=1035&height=1482). also it's okay to overlap arrows on one another, to have more on the page, finally, just as a reminder remember that you may make an overlapping the line to add lineweight. other than that well done. 

    sausages:

    eliptical: these aren't great, they are very long and the elipses [lack rotation](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/6822fd02.jpg). however the ellipses are alligned.
    
    curved: not great here either, countours are to [wrap around](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/77f2ca1c.jpg) the form slightly, and also lack of rotation with the curves. 

    if you struggle with sausages try and ghost them out, or perhaps even dot out certain areas as a point of reference. the mistakes i mentioned are to be expected and can be improved on with practice.

    texture ann:

    good job, here no attempts at secondary colours, paying attention to shapes and patterns. it's good however not great, let me point out why. 
    
    1. the textures look rather simplified, rarely ever are textures "straight" typically they are a little wobbly consisting of a macro shape and a secondary micro shape on top of them, all of your textures look a lot more like "patterns" than "textures" that is not what we are after, second of all the transition from sparce to dense is a little heavy on one side, it's almost half of it is completely white, 
    
    reminder that lines begin to "fade" as they reach to the sparce areas, the transition is to be seamless as is shown [here](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/7d1f3467.jpg). i also disagree with the fact that you neglected to include the ribs for the second panel, ideally it would have been included. paying attention to shape is great, but also think why that shape is formed and how the shadows are formed. the first panel is not great, the second panel is well done. however the third panel is a little off, i will demo how it can be improved it out [here](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823181500244688916/1138025968011845653/image.png?width=1687&height=1482) 

    sausage textures:

    these are also unfortunately not great, there is too much focus on out lines, and plenty of the textures neglect to [wrap around the form](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/e58b7887.jpg), but good job on breaking the silhuette. luckily i myself did some similar textures, [this](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749221026507784295/1138449785527996527/image.png?width=2340&height=1482) is how i'd personally draw them, i include this as a point of reference. 
    
    focus less on the outlines, think a lot more about cast shadows, and avoid simplifying the forms to straight lines, there are exceptions . another thing, we are focusing on "form" spesifically, neglecting colour all together, imagine if the entire surface of an object was made out of concrete, i remind this as the steak, woven basket and brick wall textures all utilize the black as a way to colour as opposed to show form as they are to be done. 
    
    this exercise will take plenty of time, perhaps longer than the box challange, it is also very mentally taxing, reminder that this lesson takes time, and everyone has a different pace, avoid expecting to just gain something by finishing am exercise, there is much to be learnt, and learning takes time and patience. please avoid rushing the work, and take as much time required to finish it. i also reccomend that you revisit the exercise page and go through the youtube video once again, ideally, on normal speed, with no fastforward/skipping.

    form intersections:

    well done, shapes are overall interconnected and not grouped up, however the overlap for the last few are very minimal, it's okay and even good to have and try to have the forms overlap upon one another. also please remember to draw through the ellipses twice or thrice, this rule applies to every ellipse drawn unless specified otherwise. but other than that, lines are confident, forms are drawn step by step, and the forms are generally equalateral. good job

    organic intersections:

    these aren't great, the forms do not feel as if they slump over one another, the cast shadows made are also incorrectly done, they are to wrap around the form under them and only to be drawn on top of other forms, as do shadows, and as is shown [here](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/516f8d4f.jpg). the curves are also to [curve around](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/77f2ca1c.jpg) the form itself as does in a normal sausage form. i reccomend revisiting the site and video for this exercise. be sure that the forms are drawn through, due to the amount of shadows on the page i am unable to fully tell if the forms are drawn through or not. it is okay for the form to wrap around and behind another form, i see that a lot of the forms in the submission only lie infront of the form under it.

    conclusion:

    i apologise but i cannot confidently say that the submission fullfills the requirement to move on to the next lesson, the issue mostly lie in the organic intersections and the sausage textures, the mistakes made are too major. i ask for revisions if the revision shows that there might be a lack of understanding, obviously this can be improved upon, mostly by revisiting the exercise pages and videos.

    Next Steps:

    please take time to revisit,read/listen, and go through the site and video for these exercises before making revisions:

    a. 1 page of dissections containing minimally 2 large sausage forms 4-5 cm in width and 10-12cm in length, containing minimally 3 textures and 2 intersections in total. (ideally do at max 2 textures/intersections a day)

    b.1 page of organic intersections containing minimally 5 sausages

    explanation:

    bigger sausages allow for more focus on textures, and details, i provide a spesific meassurement to allow for more focus on the textures themseleves.

    don't be afraid to update the progress on the revision by posting it on discord for feedback, especially for the textures.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    2:28 PM, Sunday August 6th 2023

    hello, i'll be critiquing the submission

    before that, congrats on finishing L1, and also, please avoid doing complete black and white in the future as it might cut out a few essential details, but for now that is a non issue. also feel free to hit me up on discord if you have any questions about the critique.

    Lines:

    -Superimposed lines

    fraying on one end, minimal arching and very confident, great job

    -Ghosted lines

    great job. dotted out, very confident, minimal arching also very well done

    -Ghosted Planes

     great job. fully dotted out, confidently done, also minimal arching no take backs, very well done

    Elipses:

    -Planes

    good job. a little wobbly i will say, i can see that the shape of the elipse is being compromised to saistfy the points. avoid this. the focus of an ellipse in this lesson is in order confidence>solidity>accuracy. perhaps try and ignore the half points all together, and focus on making a round and even shape. other than that, drawn through twice well done.

    -Panels

    awesome job. drawn through twice, confidently done, solidly shaped, and fits all snuggly into the panels, well done! however i do spot a single potential error, in the panel where there are round ball like shapes, there are elipses that are imporperly fitted in, given the space, always aim to fill it up with the biggest ellipse possible, a good rule of thumb is that they are always at least hitting 3 points be it the panel or a previous elipse, this is however a minor error and only really present in two panels (the right 5th panel of the first page, and the left 5th panel of the second page)

    -Funnels

    great job, i will comment that the funnels themselves don't seem like they are drawn with a circular/eliptical object, i might be wrong tho, it could just be the camera angle. in the future use very eliptial objects to draw these, say a roll of tape, a cup lid, a bowl ever perhaps, if such tools are availible. apart from that,  lines are confident, shape is pretty solid paying some mind to the axis line, well done,

    Boxes

    -Plotted

     great job. clean, tidy, well hatched plenty of boxes. a little lacking in shape variance but that's a minor comment from me and not an actual mistake, well done

    -Rough

    great job. all lines are perpendicular to the page, fully dotted out, no take backs drawn through, properly correctioned. very well done 

    -Rotated

    good job. a little messy, i can see a box that is missing a back box, lines are confident and well done, boxes are tight and i can see that neighbouring boxes are used to for the later boxes, well done. however i will point out something just for future reference. [image](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749221026507784295/1137738981245726811/image.png?width=1427&height=1482). the red line should be more rotated clockwise than the blue line, as is shown with the yellow line. and also, the back boxes that are done incorrectly, this is to be expected it's okay, the back boxes are to be shrunken down verion of the front boxes as is shown [here](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118407891133681684/1125345429354205204/image-8.png). overall however the work is solid and well done

    -Organic

    well done here, boxes are growing in size, lines are well done. however, boxes are to overlap upon one another, avoid this in the future. also i am unable to tell, but please do remember to dot out every line that is drawn. i can also see that there are lines that are undershot which are then "finished" by adding a little nub by the end. avoid this in the future, for this exercise spesifically, it would have been better to just superimpose them once.

    final conlusion:

    extremely solid work! wonderfully done, i can tell that this took time and plenty of attention. there are no major mistakes, only minor ones that. apart from the organic prepective exercise all of them are very very well done. keep up the great work!

    Next Steps:

    move on to the 250 box challange!

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    2:48 AM, Wednesday August 2nd 2023

    oh sorry, for some reason it didn't save the revision, let me type it over here

    you may only do one page of any exercise on a given day no more than that, less is okay or even good. just make sure you give all of your attention and focus when you're at it, if you get tired take a break.

    you must rewatch and reread/listen THE ENTIRITY of the rough prespective, rotated boxes, and organic prespective exercises before doing revisions, ideally without fast forwarding on normal speed, with full attention and focus

    1 page of plotted prespective (3 panels)

    1 page of rough prespective (3 panels)

    2 quarters of the rotated boxes exercise (15 boxes)

    1 page of organic prepective (3 panels)

    please remember to panel out and take your time on the revisions

    Next Steps:

    1 page of plotted prespective (3 panels)

    1 page of rough prespective (3 panels)

    2 quarters of the rotated boxes exercise (15 boxes)

    1 page of organic prepective (3 panels)

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    2:46 PM, Tuesday August 1st 2023

    okay, first and foremost forgive my latency. i haven't checked on the site for quite a bit.

    unfotunately i don't believe that i can confidently give you the pass for this, as unfortunate as it is i will be asking for more revisions as i do not feel like you understand the concepts nor have executed them quite properly yet. i will reason this out in the final paragraphs but before that i will list out the mistakes you make to hopefully provide a better understanding and avoid making these mistakes in the future, i apologize again, for not having provided this before hand as it would have been highly valuable:

    1. paneling, i understand that it may seem minor and trivial, or even pointless. and yes, it is a anything but a hard rule to panel out your exercises. however it does help in setting the page up properly and keeping sure that the exercises have solid boundaries to them, i do hope that, in the future revisions, all the exercises are panelled out properly, ideally 1 cm on from the page edge and 1 cm in between panels. the size of the panel itself is up to you, but to further demonstrate this i will provide you with a demo here

    2. plotted prespective:

    a. minimal boxes, the amount of boxes are not mentioned in the course however they are essential to the exercise itself. it is good to have a healthy amount of boxes, try and have somewhere between 5-8 boxes in each panel,

    b. lack of variance

    the boxes that are present in the revision are very similar to each other, try and add variance to width and height of the boxes, you can do so by playing around with the dimensions. here is an example . try and vary up the size of the boxes, how much space it takes up on the panel, how long the starting line is, how far the second and third vertical lines are from that original line, if the original line passes the horizon line or not, where the original line is in relative to the vanishing points and so on.

    try and create a variation of boxes that have differing dimensions, like take a pizza box, a sky scraper, or a shampoo bottle and a pencil sharpener, all of these shapes have differing dimensions so one might be 2x5x1 in lengthxheightxwidth the other might be 1x1x1. play around with it.

    1. rough prespective

    a. incorrect correction lines, the lines are extention of the lines on the boxes, to show how far off the line is from the vanishing points. the goal is to try and make it so that the lines all converge towards the vanishing point to the best of your ability.

    b. missing lines and not dotting out

    some of the lines in the work are missing. please make sure the lines are all drawn and all plotted out.

    c. not paralel lines

    make sure that the vertical and horizontal lines are paralel to the page.

    i recommend to go visit the site for the exercise again, and seeing the step by step on how to do so.

    1. rotated boxes.

    a. missing boxes

    there should be a total of 25 boxes,

    b. incorrect rotations

    where as i would usually forgive a student for this mistake as it is understandable for beginers to struggle with this. the purpose of this exercise spesifically is to understand how to rotate boxes, by way of moving their vanishing points in relation to one another. (all explained in exercise video)

    c. incorrect back boxes

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118407891133681684/1125345429354205204/image-8.png

    d. missing lines, and not dotting out lines, again.

    this exercise is the second to last because the previous exercises served to teach how to draw boxes converging to a point. make sure that the neighbouring boxes are used here is a step by step on how to do so. first dot and draw out the pink and red lines, then dot out the orange dots. and then finish off the box by lining everything out together, you feel the need to move any of the orange dots after a stroke, don't be afraid to do so. what matters most is the first step to that.

    1. organic prespective

    a. lack of variance in boxes.

    this is again, not a hard rule, but the rotation of boxes is to be considered when drawing them out.

    b. just, straight up wrong boxesasdasdad

    as i have high lighted here

    c. no change in size.

    as the box progresses towards the line the size of it is to increase, the boxes here are very much all of the same size. make sure that the inital y gets longer and bigger as it follows down the line

    d. not dotting out boxes.

    however the planes exercise is okay, ideally there would also be more variation and the planes would take up the whole page as opposed to only part of it. the elipses are also okay, not confident, and mishapes, but with practice that work out. please try and get the most out of the exercise by filling out the page as is shown here.

    my reasoning:

    I extreme apologise for this decision. as much as i hate to do this i cannot confidently or even honestly give you a pass on this lesson yet, as the exercises submitted are more than just a little incorrectly done.

    the lesson is progressive. it is ill advised and you will almost definetly not gain much or even anything if you just powered through the lesson. you you achieve and gain very very little by only FINISHING, instead you get better by doing the exercises, there's no magic brain level up you get by finishing a lesson and now suddenly you're just better at art than you were before, you have to actually sit down, and spend energy and attention reading through, listening to, working and doing these exercise to develop execution and understanding, which takes time and energy, and is definetly is anything but easy.

    you cannot, or at least i would personally highly doubt, gain or even be able to properly understand anything from the next phases of this lesson if the previous ones are not done as is asked.

    i understand that is your first proper "art course" and i apologise if it is exhaustive and perhaps demanding. this course is anything but easy, perhaps even more so if you have minimal experience in illustrating as a whole.

    however i do hope that you prevail and work through this, if you however do choose that this is perhaps not for you, i am no judge to tell you what to do. the last thing i want is to discourage people by giving rough and tough revisions. i hope that you can understand why i ask for these before having you move on.

    i have given you a pace for this, to hopefully, ensure that you do take your time to process and take in, and hopefully, understand the lesson.

    7:20 AM, Thursday July 20th 2023

    yep a lot better than the previous ones. however the countours are to be drawn even on the forms that lie behind the other forms, but that is just to keep in mind for future reference, at the moment this does serve the purposes of the lesson, to get a feel forms lumping on top of one another, so congrats you may proceed to the next lesson!

    Next Steps:

    • move on to L3
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    6:54 AM, Sunday July 16th 2023

    Hello pizzaplease i'll be critiquing your work today.

    first and foremonst congrats on finishing L2!

    it was not an easy task that's for sure

    without further a do:

    Arrows:

    great job. these look well done, the spacing between the lines increase as they get closer to the viewer, you are brave enough to overlap the arrows, lines are done confidently. however the overlaps seem somewhat off, it is only required that you draw over the lines that overlap, not the entirity of the arrow, however you did do so by ghosting them and with confidence, well done on that! they are little off but that is nothing you can't iron out in the future through warm ups. overall well done!

    sausages. (organic forms):

    you were only asked to do 2 pages, one of each, however the submission contains 4 pages total, two of each. 

    2 filled pages of the Organic Forms with Contour Lines exercise (1 page of contour ellipses, 1 page of contour curves)

    i understand that it might just have been misread  or misinterpreted, but just a reminder, please do not grind these exercises and only do as much as is asked. there are plenty of opportunities to iron out and improve in the future. 
    
    with that out of the way, good job on your sausages, the elipses are drawn through, they touch the sides, a little off, but that is to be expected, your curves hook around the form and you kept to simple forms, well done! however i do see lack of variation with your elipses, there is some variation, but not enough to gain the effect that they are turning in space, as in shown [here](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/6822fd02.jpg) , you also seem to have done some takebacks with your curves, please refrain from this. as i have previously mentioned again this is to be expected and is something that can be improved with time. i also see that some of the sausages have both ends facing away from the viewer, in cases like this you it is not required that you draw a circle by the end, and there are also sausages with misplaced circles more notably in your second curves pages,[here is a guide as to how to use the circles](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/368871002584907776/867744968432549928/QTEqgJa_1.png?width=618&height=601). but overall you did good on this exercise well done!

    texture analysis:

    i will start off with another reminder to avoid grinding, if you want to draw more textures you can always partake in the [25 textures challange](https://drawabox.com/lesson/25textures), for this critique i will only be critiquing the page with crumpled paper on it. good job on these! clear transition between light and dark, very dark denses and light sparces! i can see that understand the underlying shapes of the texture and also focus on the cast shadows more so than the outlines. i will comment however that the chrysanthemum "texture" is not exactly a texture, and more of a form, something that will be explored in the next lesson, but nonetheless you do show understanding even on that texture. overall they are very well done, i can see that you took your time and it obviously paid off! great work

    disections:

    again great job on these! these look great! textures wrap around the form, they break the silhuette, focused more on cast shadows and done so implicitly, no dotting or hatching to achieve a gradient effect, very well done! apologies for i don't think i can read your handwriting and see the comments you made. i do not see anything wrong with these except for the corn texture, highlight and shines are not to be drawn in textures, this is a very minor mistake. overall awesome job! very well done! i can tell you took your time on this.

    intersections:

    good job! shapes are drawn confidently and equalaterally for the most part. the first page does contain some boxes that are outside of the page, i see that this mistake is not repeated in the next pages so it is an exception, i see that there are a lot of unecessary double takes with the lines, i do however see that the lines are fading and there might be an issue related to the pen that is being used, other than that they are drawn confidently and correctly. i will comment that some of the prism shapes here are a little off, some shading can help, i do also see that there are some mistaked with your intersections, however they are minor and secondary so it's a trivial matter. overall good job.

    sausage intersections:

    unfortunately these are not very well done, you did well overall the shapes are very solid and they are very visibly supporting each other the curves of your elipses hook and give the form good solidity, your lines are confident and well done, you stuck to simple shapes as well. but there are some major mistakes present, for one your shadows are cast unaturally as is demod [here](https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/516f8d4f.jpg) the shadows of your form are to wrap around the form under it, avoid adding shadows that are unnatural or untied to the form below it. however the second mistake will render a this exercise for a revision as the forms are not drawn through, as just as the previous exercise all the sausage forms here are to be drawn through all the way to the back, the sausages in this submission seem to cut off as they overlap with the sausage under it, which is to not be the case. overall i can see that you have very good understanding on this however this will render a revision.

    conclusion:

    these are very well done! you clearly took your time to do all these well, your textures are done very well, you also seem to understand the organic intersections despite the mistake. the only few mistakes i can see if with the tendancy to draw over a lines, please refrain from this, only overlap lines that are required to be so, even despite that you still do so with confidence and clearly with ghosting, well done!

    Next Steps:

    • 1 page of organic intersection

    please be sure to draw through the forms and and cast the shadows on the forms below it as is shown here

    i would like to remind you that the overall submission is very well done. please keep it up!

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    11:46 AM, Wednesday July 12th 2023

    hello, fist and foremost, congrats on finishing L1.

    before we start, i see that some of your images are taken from a fair distance, in the future, please be sure to take more close up pictures so that the critiquer and anyone else seeing it can get a better a look at the work.

    without further a do let's get into it

    Lines:

    • Super imposed lines

      these are not great. i see that they have fraying on both ends, and most of your lines seem to be a lot of arching (as in bent lines) where as this is completely acceptable for this stage of the lesson, however i do not see that these lines have much intent nor purpose with them, i apologise if that came off a little rude.

      i cannot quite tell from the picture, but it is not reccomended that you a pencil for these exercises as is explained here.

      please be mindful of the strokes you make, fraying on one end is acceptable, however at least one end is within the control of the student. however your lines are confident, arching, but still confident, which is the primary focus of this part of the lesson. these are not great, i advise that you revisit the page for these exercises again.

    • ghosted lines

      good job on this. confident strokes, brave and overlapping lines, at least hitting one point and drawn with a pen, good job! however i see that there is a lot of arching lines present in the page, i suggest that you try and give a counter force on your hand arching to the opposite direction to straighten the line out, so if your lines are arching to the left, give a force out that arcs to the right to straighten the line out, but overall, good job!

    • Ghosted planes

      okay job here, all the lines are drawn confidently, which is the main focus of this exercise, so great! however i do see some common issues here, in remember to plot out all your lines, even the + line the middle, every line should be drawn with intent. secondly some of the lines overshoot so much that it doubles the original length, please practice lifting up your pen as it reaches the point, overshooting is still acceptable within this stage, but please be mindful of the point. your planes are also rather scattered around the place, try and make them fit into the page nicely to get the most out of the page, and exercise. but overall good job!

    lines conclusion:

    i can see that you slowly develop understanding as you progress, however a lot of these lines are arched and overshoot, this is nothing that you cannot improve in the future, but i do suggest that you keep it in mind and slowly chip away at it on future warm ups! that being said, your lines are confident, which is great! despite how bent they are, none show any wobbliness, well done!

    Elipses:

    • Panels:

      good job, look somewhat wobbly here compared to the lines, but it's nothing you can't work on in the future, the shape of your elipses also seem a little off in shape, again this is to be expected. you also draw through your elipses more than 3 times for some of these, it is mandatory for the lesson that ellipses are drawn through twice.

    as a reminder please remember that when drawing elipses the main priority first and foremost is confidence, followed by shape and solidity and then accuracy.

    this rule applies to future lessons as well, it is important that confidence is prioritized out of all else.

    • planes

      these are not great, please remember that the elipses within the panels hit all 4 sides, the ellipses are somewhat wobbly and mishaped. as a reminder again, confidence is the main priority above all else, followed by shape and then accuracy. a lot of students fall into a trap of thinking that they have to draw within the plane, it is completely okay to draw out of the plane, where as ideally we'd want them to fit in, your priority first and foremost should be confidence.

    • funnels

      good job here, your elipses are drawn within the bounds some of them are wobbly most of them are drawn through twice, and with a bit more confidence, and despite your lines being off center it does seem like you mind your elipses minor axis in relation to it. overall good job!

    conclusion:

    your ellipses are somewhat wobbly but you can work in the future, just with the lines remember that confidence is prioritized over accuracy, accuracy in the sense of ellipses meaning fitting in the boundaries that were set, like the lines of a plane.

    Boxes:

    okay, i do not think that this work done with much thought, practically every mistake that is mentioned within the site is done, the plotted prespective exercise looks messy, the rough prespective exercise are done completely wrong, so are the rotated boxes.

    i understand that these are not easy exercises per say, however i can pretty confidently say that these are done with very little patience and mindfulness. i understand that it is very tempting to just get it done and be finished with the lesson to move on to the next part of the lesson, in these moment i beg that you remind yourself the reason that you took this lesson. by rushing through it and giving little attention to the work you are completely missing the lesson entirely. please be patient and take your time.

    you also write attempt 3 in your rotated boxes exercise, i understand that the results of the rotated boxes is very often frustrating and unpleasing to look at, worry not this is to be expected and is understandable. please remember that the point of the exercise is to understand the relation between boxes and how they rotate. but please, go with the first attempt and finsih it, no matter how bad it looks, if you ever feel burnt out, be sure to take a break. none of these exercises are expected to be done within a days work, some may very well span across a week's time or even more.

    finishing the lesson will not instantly make you better at art, doing it mindfully, and taking your time will. please be patient and take your time.

    Next Steps:

    • a page of ghosted planes with elipses. (please make sure your elipses are fitting the planes fully as is shown in this example

    • a revision of the entirity of the boxes exercises (1 page of plotted prespective, 2 pages of rough prespective, 1 page of rotated boxes, and 2 pages (with 6 panels) of organic boxes)

    please take your time and go through to read boxes part of the lesson and watch the videos. i understand that this may be frustrating, but without having properly done the exercises you cannot expect to proceed forward to the 25o box challenge.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    3:16 AM, Saturday July 8th 2023

    forgive my latency i have not been able to reach my devices recently.

    definetly an improvement from the previous submissions. if you were to revisit this exercise as a warm up in the future i suggest that you keep each panel to the same type of elipse until the space can't occupy it anymore.

    there is visible variance in the types of elipses you draw and it's great that there are more round ball like shapes in there.

    good job on these keep it up!

    Next Steps:

    move on to the 250 box challange

    practice elipses on warm ups

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    1:10 AM, Thursday July 6th 2023

    ah sorry for the confusion, i neglected to add a demo image.

    all the rules that apply to the curved sausages still apply to the organic intersections exercise.

    what i mean by hooked curves are the little overshoot on the contour curves as is explained here

    in some of the exercises submitted there are a lot of these sausages that have curves that are not overshot like here

    again, i apologise for the confusion, if you have further questions do ask away!

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    2:31 AM, Wednesday July 5th 2023

    first and foremost

    congrats on finishing L2!

    without further a do:

    arrows

    good job you did well here, it seems that you understand how things flow in 3d. lines are clean, a bit of messiness here and there but clearly the exception and not the norm so that's okay.

    organic forms

    varying degrees of ellipses, solid forms, drawn with hooks, done so confidently axis are alligned. you did very well tho, great job! tho some of the curves do look a little off, nothing you can't improve on in the future tho! demo

    texture analysis:

    awesome job! These look great and from your notes I can tell that you took your time to understand the textures and execute your marks properly! a clear transition from sparce to dense, and very very dense darks!

    dissection:

    great job here as well, they are very well drawn, I can tell you took your time to understand and draw these textures. you did a "retry" which i do not recommend, as it goes against the mindset of letting things be.

    However, I do see some common errors.

    with your soap textures, soap is transparent and it's explained in the exercise that you should ignore any type of colour in the texture itself and interpret it as if it was solid concrete, this includes transparency like glass. With your gold and copper examples as well, it's not recommended that you try and tackle things that reflect light, as the main focus of this lesson is to understand forms and shapes, not light and reflections. This is just as a reminder in case you were to study textures in the future. it isn't mentioned in the site itself but pretty agreed upon in the discord.

    you also lack some transitions between sparse and dense with these textures. the textures can transition between sparse in the middle to dark and dense around the edges. most of the textures drawn here seem to have an even coating all over. this isn't explained in the site but is touched on in the video here.

    but overall, you pay much attention to your textures and clearly show understanding. they wrap around the form, you focus more on cast shadows than outlines, they are well executed, you break the silhouette and there is a lot of textures here. overall awesome job!

    intersections

    good job here, forms are clean and shapes are well drawn

    however your boxes are very dramatic, this should be avoided, there's even a box that almost has a trapesium shape in it. (dramatic perspective image), your cones are also very long and dramatic, this should be avoided as is demonstrated here

    the intersections for the shapes with curved edges seem to not be entirely correct. when two curved edges intersect they form an "s" shape as opposed to a "c" shape as it would with a flat surface as i've demod here . this is of course an additional part of the lesson so it's okay. i just wanted to point it out for future reference. good job here too!

    organic intersections.

    good job here, drawn through and they feel somewhat solid. however you seem to have forgotten to draw your curves hooked on the ends for most of the forms drawn. there are also a lot fo forms that seem like they are floating without much support under them example here. especially the ones on the outer edges. you don't have to fill the entire page in, it's alright if the forms stack up to a more triangle like mass shape.

    Conclusion:

    overall i think you did very well! some mistakes in the exercises but non that would render the need for a revision. i think you are free to move on to lesson 3! i think you can add organic intersections as a warm up every now and again just to improve on it!

    Additionally, you do a lot of crossing out for lines that didn't turn out well (with the x marks), this is just minor but i think it's a habit that should be avoided, mistakes are to be made.

    and it also seems like a lot of these forms aren't fitting in the page nicely. to avoid this you can try and dot out roughly where a shape or form will lie in the paper before drawing it. this is vital for future lessons to make sure that your drawings fit into the page. if you are worried you won't get the most out of it always remember that you can revisit these exercises as warm ups to improve on them!

    Keep up the great work!

    Next Steps:

    -Move on to Lesson 3

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