Tamer of Beasts

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  • Tamer of Beasts
  • The Fearless
  • Giver of Life
  • Dimensional Dominator
  • The Relentless
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    9:01 PM, Thursday July 29th 2021

    Yes. Whatever works for you.

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    12:28 PM, Wednesday July 28th 2021

    I am currently on this lesson to so take my answer with a pinch of salt.

    I would say you have to use your judgement rather than it being subjective. I think most people will find the minor axis to be in pretty much the same place if the ellipse is fairly true.

    I would ignore the major axis. Everything I read on this says the major axis irrelevant so I wouldn't use that to gauge anything.

    The way I have been doing it is to use the edge of a clear ruler to represent the minor axis and move it until it looks like one half of the ellipse could be folded over on top of the other. I haven't had too many problems doing it this way.

    10:15 AM, Tuesday July 27th 2021

    I think I read that 50 boxes might be sufficient too. I am sure Uncomfortable will be able to answer this question authoritatively if you sign up.

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    10:23 PM, Monday July 26th 2021

    I think you have to start from the start if you decide to go Patreon. The feedback you get is cumulative and often refers to previous issues. Self assessment or community assessment isn't as rigorous IMO. So Patreon is very much worth doing.

    If you don't go that route then I would spend a few days refreshing your memory by doing some examples of previous exercises before restarting lesson 3.

    Feel free to look at my official critiques if you want an idea of what you get for your money.

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    9:44 PM, Monday July 26th 2021

    I would see dots for VPs a bit like stabilisers. OK to get started but it is best to lose them as soon as possible.

    One of the notes on the task is that there should be more emphasis on shallow foreshortening. This most likely means that vanishing points will not be on the paper anyway.

    One thing that I started doing was to visualise triangles on the paper. This seems to help me determine the angles quite well. You can quite quickly establish where the edge cannot be by testing the limits because edges would converge far too quickly or far too slowly. Then it becomes an iterative method of trying to narrow things down further using visualised triangles until it seems to click as correct.

    Don't think I have explained this well but it was just something that I started doing after drawing so many boxes and it seemed to work quite well.

    9:58 AM, Monday July 26th 2021

    Straight lines or ghosted planes would be suitable. The goal is to be able to draw straight lines from point to point confidently. Yours tend to taper and veer towards the end, almost like you are flicking your pen rather than maintaining that control and confidence. The perspective exercises depend on being able to read a straight line to a vanishing point.

    I don't want you to get bored but it is well worth trying to get good line accuracy before tackling complex exercises like rotated boxes.

    9:56 PM, Sunday July 25th 2021

    Yeah, I know. I am hardcore :-)

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    2:35 PM, Sunday July 25th 2021

    From looking at your work so far I would suggest that you need to just do one exercise everyday. That is drawing straight lines point to point, using ghosting. Do this every day filling up a page of A4 at least.

    Your lines at the moment aren't good enough to make the subsequent exercises useful. They are too wobbly and sketchy. Once you nail that, then move on to the next one.

    Pace is a thing that isn't often mentioned, but trying to rush through without nailing the basics to a good standard just means that problems compound. Take your time but practice everday if you can. Compare your lines to some professionally critiqued submissions and see how they compare. Not expecting that your lines should like like they are drawn with a ruler but they should be getting reasonably close before you move on. IMO.

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    7:59 PM, Thursday July 15th 2021

    Yeah, it is hard. I got stuck on animals, it just wasn't clicking. I am now struggling with cylinders in a box. But I know I will get there. I try not to grind and will happily take some time away from drawabox but I will complete it. Someday.

    Thinks I can think that can help are :-

    1. Take the Patreon route if you haven't already ( I wasn't clear whether you were or not ). It gives you more clarity, and tough love, on your progress. Everything is picked up and it is done in a timely manner. Later lessons via community feedback often, to me, appear to have not absorbed fully previous lessons.

    2. Do warm ups daily. When I first started I was doing straight line, planes, ghosting practice etc everyday. Normally 2-3 sides worth of A4. These basics need to be drilled in to your brain and muscle memory.

    3. Take a while on each lesson if necessary. Sometimes it takes longer for your brain to get around something you have been taught. Trying to get something quickly just for the sake of moving on is a false economy.

    4. There is a big difference between knowing how to do something and it being second nature. That is time and purposeful practice. It's a joy when what you have been working on for ages suddenly becomes effortless ( well, much less effort at least).

    5. Foundations matter much more than getting through the lessons quickly. Not having those can render later lessons pointless.

    I recently tried doing some anime again ( not my favourite style but good for practice ) and ability has gone up one or two levels in just being able to see and draw with so much less effort. My hand moves around the page freely making marks in ways it didn't before. Those are the good days.

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    6:45 PM, Sunday July 11th 2021

    Think of it this way. I am lucky, I am not having to draw cylinders in boxes.

    In all seriousness one box at a time, I think I did between 10 and 20 per day but not everyday. It's a marathon not a sprint as has been already said. If you did all 250 in one day you wouldn't get half the benefit of doing it steadily over a month.

    Also, don't look for improvements. It's not like that. Do the work to the best of your ability. Get feedback. If that's OK move on to the next task. The benefits appear in mysterious ways when you are not looking for them.

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