purplerains

Thank you for your detailed and helpful feedback. Everything you pointed out for improvement were things I had already thought was lacking--will be focusing on these points for L5.

Thank you--I didn't realize I replied to the blank comment. Apologies.

I will refrain from long comments in the future. I am sorry for asking for more feedback than is in the scope of the course. I will move on to Lesson 4. Thank you for your additional feedback on my submissions.

Sorry I think maybe my later replies aren't pinging? I submitted the homework about two weeks ago but I responded to your "this is blank" comment.

Hello, checking in on next steps?

Sorry, I think I accidentally replied on my phone the other night without realizing.

https://imgur.com/a/d5VTR9S

I have reviewed your feedback carefully.

I have ADHD and as part of my personal situation I can struggle with straight forward directions at times--even when I have reviewed them carefully--in ways that seem strange and extremely frustrating to others. It happens to me less know than as a kid but sadly if it strikes it strikes at 100% power.

I read those plain English instructions for branches many times, and watched the video at least 2 times in full and did work alongside it. Did my brain overwrite start from the ellipse with middle to middle everytime? Did it take me multiple minutes of looking and rereading the instructions to see my fundamental misunderstanding you pointed out, even though it is there in words and illustration, very plainly and clearly? Sadly yes. I probably would have gone for ages doing that even when rereading and looking if you hadn't told me. Thank god for these official critiques!

Following directions you (think you) understand and know, and doing them the same way every time is a problem for many people with ADHD. Links are being real weird I barely got imgur in so I promise if you google it there will be a barrage of info. It is a very embarrassing problem. I think I struggled in L3 on getting it all together and ADHD and had a grand ol time while I as a whole biffed it a bit. That is not always why I biff it, its not the most common reason I biff it. I have no issue admitting to lack of effort, care, focus, aliging goals etc (The lotus leaf was a big flat smooth leaf but yeah it intimidated me and I gave up. That was not good effort and no parts of my assignments moving forward should have anything like that) But I am really confident (and dismayed) that ADHD shenangians have probably been making me hit a hard wall this lesson and done most of the damage. It was due I guess, somehow I got through L2 without revisions lol. Anyway, it's very distinct in that myself and people go "uh you followed the directions and tried your best?!" and get really confused in general. It's always pretty embarrassing and it's important to check my understanding of what I am doing to overcome the problems because some illogical, inexplicable things have maybe wormed their ways in. And so with this specific situation the request to 'just read the instructions and do it again and pay attention', yeah. Sadly, was already doing that. For me I need to talk to someone, then the weird stuff comes out. Like middle to middle!!

It is it often multiple things together and not just one inexplicable mistake. It has a chain reaction. Right now there is middle to middle and a zig zagging issue? Is from the shoulder on the table as well? I hope we can revisit everything you say it appears im not doing so we can possibly for more "i didnt know I misunderstood" errors.

I have redone the page of branches, I did a few practice pages before this one it seems rough to me but I also did fewer ellipses so I changed two things. It's clearly much better to execute.

You say I must still be zig zagging my leaves to some degree: I will walk through, after reviewing the instructions again, what I do so you can tell me what is wrong because my understanding is zig zagging is one continuous stroke where you don't lift the pen and make many if not all of the edge details in one go.

What I have done since the original submission:

1. I complete the ‘outline’ of the leaf form.

2. I decide to make sharp points as the edge detail while referencing an image of a leaf with sharp points along the edge.

3. Starting my first stroke, I ghost it from the shoulder.

4. Drawing from the shoulder I make a point by starting at the edge of the leaf form, going out and returning to the edge again. I have made one single, pointy edge mark.

5. I repeat this along the entire edge of the leaf form.

And finally I’m still confused by narrow structures in plants like little tendrils off of branches or flity stamens in a flower etc. In some of Uncomfortable's examples, some are simplified as lines, some are drawn as a 2d shape but not with a guidng line or ellipses, like there is no branch construction or a single line. Like the hibiscus example for those off shoots. Or is this just another moment where “the example videos have some out of date info” ?

I also need to clarify that my comment my comment was asking for your help, but wasn't very good at it. I was not trying to twist your arm. I thought I was saying what was hard for me in the moment, not that I thought all of it was wrong for me and impossibly hard. I know “for me” has connotations that I just laid out, but I meant it in the simplest way, that its a thing, challenging me. I groan when I see the phrases I used in talking about drawing bigger especially. I really meant things so fundamentally, often the opposite, of what you saw and interpreted off of it. I never meant, and did not ask for an easy route as in a shortcut, I did not ask for any exceptions, I didn't an don't disagree with or purposefully ignore any instructions, (I have tried very hard to follow them.) I especially wasn't saying I could never do these things. I regret that there was such a gap in my intention and your understanding.

I want to be clear I don’t disagree with any of the things you have said are mistakes, are executed poorly, what I need to do as next steps, and what draw a box is and is about. I agree 100% . I am so grateful for this feedback, your time, your expertise and draw a box. I have tried my best in L3 though (bar Lotus Leaf, not my best), as much as every previous exercise and lesson and I only say this all because I care and think I've grown so much from your wonderful course and I want to go all the way to the end. So it was a little hard to process everything in L3 up until right now and I was questioning everything I was and had been doing--pretty disorienting. Also a big ADHD is having a field day sign.... It still took me a sec :/ Nature of the beast haha. I feel much better now.

https://imgur.com/a/Pp2ybhO

I feel compelled to share that I draw everything from my shoulder and ghost all strokes. I do not do arbitrary gaps on purpose or because I don't care. I missed. I have found ghosting 1)curves, 2)the mid point to mid point on the branches (and not terminating at the next ellipse), and 3)ellipses not contained in boxes/bounding lines very difficult. I tried to go from middle to middle on the branches, and tried to touch the ellipses. I missed and overshot.

I tried to go slower overall, take more time, and draw bigger. Drawing bigger isn't a great solution to my issue when doing a study of a complex thing like a plant, from what I've experienced, because things that were a line zoomed out become a tube when you zoom in. And you said how I handled the small clove outgrowth on the orange was wrong, so I tried to do the small tubes. Getting two 'draw throughs' from the shoulder on small ellipses is very hard for me. All these things are still harder for me than anything else asked thus far in the course. I did catch the instructions I missed and tried to apply them but it was fewer than you maybe thought--I was just struggling to execute on a number of them. And I think I still am?

Sorry I missed this response somehow--I do understand and appreciate the explanation!

Thank you for the feedback.

Where can I share feedback about Lesson 2? I have some thoughts I want to share about the texture section.

Thank you so much for all your feedback. I am very excited to start lesson 2!