5:20 PM, Tuesday July 4th 2023
https://imgur.com/a/E0Ho58l my revisions
https://imgur.com/a/E0Ho58l my revisions
I have completed what you requested.
Completed revisions. It took me a while due to trying meet your critiques of my previous work. I hope this is satisfactory
Sorry, you didn't mark my lesson 2 as complete, unless I have to submit more lesson 2 revisions? Your post and the next steps recommendations seem to contradict each other
My 2 pages of revisions are finished. Sorry about the delay
That's good to hear! keep it up!
if you want, you could ask in the discord if at least two people can approve my critique. just to save you time later.
Hello Tami, welcome to lesson 1 of drawabox!
lines
In this section, you draw your lines with confidence. Your ghosting is good, there is little to no wobbly in the lines.
Though on ghosted planes, when you draw the cross over the X , you've stop placing a starting and ending dot before drawing a line, and it seems you are mostly freehanding the line without ghosting. It important to plot the starting and ending points for any line as to apply the ghosting method. The ghosting method is a fundamental part of Drawabox, and it should not be skipped.
ellipses
Your ellipses table is done very well. The ellipses are drawn over twice and they fit snuggly with each other and within their sections. they are drawn very smooth and confidently.
However in your ellipses in planes exercise, I'm starting to notice a bit of shakiness and hesitation within the lines. This might be because you are drawing bigger ellipses, not fully used to drawing from your shoulder and putting accuracy of hitting the points over confidence of the line. So my advice here is to spent time more ghosting your ellipses. Do it at a speed that's not too fast or slow, where you can internalize what mark you are going to make before making it. If you were ghosting an ellipses 2-3 times before, try to extend that to about 10 times. At this point in time, it doesn't matter if your ellipses overshoot the planes, we striving for a confidence and smooth line above everything else.
Another point is that ellipses look a bit samey here as they are drawn with the same degree, and that's because your ghosted planes are drawn very similar. So for your warm-ups, try draw a different variations of planes. It will result in different degrees of the ellipses when you draw them. Over time with practice, this will build up muscle memory
Your ellipses in funnel exercise seem to suffer from some of the same problems above, so you need to ghost here more as well. Remember to strive more to align your ellipses to the central minor axis line, such that each ellipse is cut into two equal, symmetrical halves. Once again this might be due to ghosting issues.
I also noticed you are changing the degree of ellipses, whether as a mistake or intentionally. As a beginner, I want you to focus on drawing just the same degree of ellipse and only increase it size as you move along the funnel. When you get more comfortable with this, you can begin changing the degree to challenge yourself.
boxes
In your rough perspective exercise, your lines are looking wobbly. When people get to this stage of the lesson, their focus is on making an accurate box then making a good confident line. Try to face every line as it is a ghosted line exercise, without taking into account that it's part of a box. The logic is that by making confident looking lines, you can make confident looking boxes.
I also see that some of your width and height lines are skewed and do not align with either horizon line or the perpendicular line. Unlike the lines, You can put down the two points for making a line, check if they are parallel to the horizon line or the perpendicular line. If they are not, add another point to correct it . You can put down many points until you are satisfied, then you can commit to the actual line!
Another point in your rough perspective exercise, You are not using the entire space that you set. Consistently, you draw your boxes more tightly packed to the center rather then further away from the vanishing point, leaving a lot of white space on the left and right sides that's not filled. For your warm-ups, try push yourself out of comfort zone, and draw boxes further way from the vanishing point in the space you've set. You'll need to begin getting use to this, as for the 250 box challenge, you are going have vanishing points that may not be on the page.
In your organic perspective exercise, The majority of your boxes have y shape with angles more than 90 degrees, which is good because it lead to more accurate boxes . Make sure you consistently strive for both of these in your future warm ups, as it is important for the 250 box exercise.
It's not important at this point in time, but your foreshortening for some of your boxes, especially the ones furthest away from us, are quite dramatic and throws things off. In an exercise like the organic perspective, where it just a bunch of boxes in the scene, using a more shallow foreshortening makes things look consistent.
your rotated box exercise is good, your are rotating the boxes to each of their vanishing points. It would be helpful if you draw crosshatching on the visible parts of the faces on the boxes like in the homework example.
To sum up, for your warm ups:
draw a variety of different planes with different degree of ellipses.
practice ghosting so you can internalize what marks you are going to make before you make them.
In your funnel exercise, remember to strive more to align your ellipses to the central minor axis line,
Use the entire space of your rough perspective exercise that you've set.
good luck on your drawabox journey!
Next Steps:
250 box challenge
hello GenericWhiteMale, welcome to drawbox.
some general ghosting method advice
I think major mistake people assume is that drawing their lines fast is equal to them being drawn confidently . Maybe over time this can become true, but at the beginning we don't want to ghost our lines too fast because we won't internalize the process and gain muscle memory effectively.
So for your warm ups, I want you to spend more time ghosting lines or ellipses at a speed that's not too fast or slow, where you can internalize what mark you are going to make before making it. That might mean ghosting a line 10 times or a even little longer before you commit to it. Also pay attention to how you rotate your page, you may find there a certain degree where you draw your lines more successfully and can help you ghost lines more accurately
lines
even with your ghosting issues, most of your lines and planes seem confident to me which is the primarly thing we want at this stage. You lay down your points and mostly hit them. Some of your ghosted lines do fall a little short sometimes so important to remember, that when ghosting to lift your pen off the page the second you hit that end point. Remember overshooting isn't a big problem at this stage.
ellipses.
Just a small reminder, because you mostly doing right this already, but alway strive to draw through your ellipses not once, but at least twice or 3 times. Drawing through your ellipses gives your arm the chance to familiarize itself with what's being asked of it in that first pass, and then firm it up in the second. It also helps build up muscle memory.
In the ellipse table exercise, each ellipse should touching each other without overlapping. In your work, there seems to be a mild amount of overlapping. This is area you might be working too fast when ghosting. Remember to ghost your lines at a speed where you can internalize what mark you are going to make before making it.
In you funnels exercise, I think you need to strive more to align your ellipses to the central minor axis line, such that each ellipse is cut into two equal, symmetrical halves. Once again this might be due to ghosting issues.
boxes
In your rough perspective exercise, your lines are looking wobbly. When people get to this stage of the lesson, their focus on making a boxes then making a good confident line. Try to face every line as it is a ghosted line exercise, without taking into account that it's part of a box. The logic is that by making confident looking lines, you can make confident looking boxes.
I also see that some of your width and height lines are skewed and do not align with either horizon line or the perpendicular line. Unlike the lines, You can put down the two points for making a line, check if they are parallel to the horizon line or the perpendicular line. If they are not, add another point to correct it . You can put down many points until you are satisfied, then you can commit to the actual line!
In your organic perspective exercises, I noticed that you may have tried to correct yourself by drawing additional lines. Try to fight the urge to correct yourself , it draws more attention to your mistakes and can make things more messier and harder to critique. My previous critique on making two point before making a line can apply here as well
The majority of your boxes have y shape with angles more than 90 degrees, which is good because it lead to more accurate boxes . Make sure you consistently strive for both of these in your future warm ups, as it is important for the 250 box exercise.
To sum up, for your warm up exercises , you should focus on ghosting your lines and ellipses more effectively. Don't get discouraged, with pratice you'll be able to get a hang of it. Ghosting helps makes your lines and ellipses more confident whcih is our main focus at this stage.
I am going to mark this complete.
Good luck on your draw box journey!
Next Steps:
The 250 box exercise
Hello Laika, welcome to drawbox.
lines
I can tell you strive confident lines in your lines with the ghosting method. but in the ghost planes exercise it seems you weren't laying down points and ghosting for the crosshair. Remember to always apply the ghosting method to all lines that you'll make and put your focus on making a confident and even line over anything else!
ellipses.
It's good that you draw over ellipses twice, it keeps things clear.
For the ellipses table, you seem to do the wave ellipses sections more then regular 'straight across each box' sections. For future warm ups, try to do a couple sections of "straight across each box" ellipses first before doing the wave sections. It just helps to builds up repetition and muscle memory.
Remember to keep the ellipses within the bounds of each section and each ellipse should touching each other, without overlapping. You seem to improve on this as you progress but I think you might be working too fast sometimes. Don't mistake being fast for being confident. maybe spend more time ghosting an ellipses at a speed that's not too fast or slow, where you can internalize what mark you are going to make before making it.
In you funnels exercise, you are doing a good job aligning your ellipses to the minor axis. keep striving for this in the future.
boxes
In your rough perspective exercise, your lines are looking wobbly. When people get to this stage of the lesson, their focus on making a boxes then making a good confident line. Try to face every line as it is a ghosted line exercise, without taking into account that it's part of a box. The logic is that by making confident looking lines, you can make confident looking boxes.
I also see that some of your width and height lines are skewed and do not align with either horizon line or the perpendicular line. Unlike the lines, You can put down the two points for making a line, check if they are parallel to the horizon line or the perpendicular line. If they are not, add another point to correct it . You can put down many points until you are satisfied, then you can commit to the actual line!
I have no issues with your rotated boxes, it fulfill the requirements
For you organic perspective exercises, you sometime draw a the intial y shape with angles less then 90 degrees. remember that we want angles that are greater 90 for a more accurate box. My previous critique on making two point before making a line can apply here as well, as you can make sure that there is more then 90 degrees between the points before committing a line to it. Make sure you strive for this in your future warmup, as it is important to for the next exercises
To sum up, for your warm up exercises , you should focus on ghosting your lines and ellipses more effectively. the ghosting method is key for making your lines and ellipses making confident. That's why you will hear people insist so much on this (especially on earlier lessons), because our focus right now is to make confident lines over anything else.
I am going to mark this complete.
Good luck on your draw box journey!
Next Steps:
250 box challenge
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