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2:43 PM, Monday May 24th 2021

Hello ASULFUSBIBER,

Congratulations on finishing the 250 Box Challenge. This is especially a hard one, so I can understand how you feel.

Let's start with your lines. I see many wobbly lines and some fixed lines that are drawn a couple of times. It is good that you planned out your lines before drawing them. What I am curious about is that whether you are doing enough ghosting before drawing the actual line. Once you planned out the line with dots, ghost the line as many times as you need so that your muscle will remember the movement, and that way, you will draw more confident and straight lines. Thinking about the line while you draw hinders the drawing process, resulting in a wobbly, non-confident line so try to focus only on the movement of your arm since your arm would remember the movement.

I see you extended the corners of the boxes in the right direction, which is good, but there are some problems in your perspective. In the three-point perspective, there are three sets of vanishing points. Every parallel line should converge to a specific vanishing point. In each box, there are three sets of lines, each set containing four parallel lines.

Since your foreshortening is too shallow, most of the lines are parallel, or they diverge. The lines should converge, not diverge. You should pay attention to the planning stage of your lines before drawing them. One way to understand this might be to apply a deeper foreshortening. This way, your vanishing points would be closer, and you can see the divergence easier. This diagram explains the behaviors of the lines, so give it a read and try to apply it to your own boxes. Also, this specific order of drawing the lines might help you get more accurate results.

If you still have some problems understanding the three-point perspective, I would recommend you read the lesson material one more time and watch the videos Uncomfortable posted on youtube. You can find the first and the second videos here.

Before starting Lesson 2, doing this challenge a bit more would be better for you to understand the perspective better.

This challenge might be hard, tiresome, and even annoying, so taking your time and do it slowly might help you in this process. That way, you won't burn out. You can build up enough strength and determination to finish this challenge. If you feel like you are falling behind, or if you lose your focus while doing this challenge, taking some time out and finding your reason to draw might be helpful. Don't judge yourself too harshly. You are doing your best to learn something you love, and that's what matters. And if you did everything you can to keep going but still failed to get out of depression, maybe getting professional help would be better. It helped me go through the depression, and it also improved my art, so I definitely would recommend it.

Good luck with your studies :)

Next Steps:

Before starting Lesson 2,study the materials I mentioned above and then draw 50 more boxes. Once you are done, you can post your revision here for feedback.

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1:46 PM, Monday May 24th 2021

Hello DELUFRA,

Congratulations on finishing the 250 Box Challenge.

I want to start with your lines. They look confident, but I see some line corrections, so I would recommend you not fix the line by drawing it twice as it appears messy and kills the illusion of solidness of the box. It is good that you planned out every line using dots, and it seems like you are ghosting them enough before drawing them, which makes most of them look confident and clear.

You extended the lines of the boxes correctly, but in a few of them, you seemed to forget to extend some corners. You might want to limit the number of boxes per page so that the extended lines won't confuse you, and that way, you can see your mistakes more clearly. Five boxes per page would be enough.

It is good to see your understanding of perspective increased as you go on. But there are still some issues regarding the inner corners. This order of drawing might help you get a better result. Also, thinking about the relationship between lines in every step will help you draw the corners more accurately. This is explained in this diagram, so take a look at it.

In general, I like your confident lines, the way you plan your boxes, and the improvement of your perspective. So keep practicing your boxes as your warm-ups, try to be more accurate in your inner corners so that they won't diverge, and when you feel ready, you can check the advanced box exercises from here.

Good luck :)

Next Steps:

I am glad to mark this lesson as complete. You can go ahead and start lesson 2. But don't forget to practice your boxes as a part of your warmups. And you can also start giving feedbacks for the 250 Box Challenge for other people. By doing this, you can increase your chances of getting feedback for your future homework and help other people to understand the basics better at the same time.

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6:37 AM, Thursday April 29th 2021

Hi, congratulations on finishing the 250 Box Challange. It seems you waited for a long time. I hope my review will help you.

First, your lines appear wobbly and not confident. In order to draw a confident line, drawing from the shoulder and ghosting the line before drawing it is very important. Also, you should draw fast so that it won't be wobbly. I would recommend you go back to the Ghosted Lines exercise in Lesson 1 and practice your lines. Incorporate the exercise into your warmups.

I see you are struggling with perspective. In the three-point perspective, there are three sets of vanishing points. Every parallel line should converge to a specific vanishing point. In each box, there are three sets of lines, each set containing four parallel lines.

In the boxes you draw, almost every set of parallel lines are diverging, which is wrong. You should pay attention to the vanishing points and plan your lines before drawing the actual lines of the boxes. One way to understand this might be to apply a deeper foreshortening. This way, your vanishing points would be closer, and you can see the divergence easier.

As it is explaind in the lesson this exercise is all about developing your understanding of 3D space and how forms can be manipulated within it. So you sould improve your understading of perspective and how boxes appear in 3-D space before starting to the Lesson 2.

You can check the lesson materials to really understand the rules of the three-point perspective and how you should approach to this challenge. Also, there are two videos made by Uncomfortable to explain how to draw boxes in three-point perspective.The first one is older than the second one, so there might be some differences but both are very helpfull. You should watch both of them and read the lesson materials presented on the website to improve your understanding.

Next Steps:

Before starting Lesson 2, draw 50 more boxes. This time study the given materials carefully and then draw the boxes. Also, don't forget to practice the Ghosted Lines and the other exercises from Lesson 1 as your warmup. After you finished drawing 50 boxes, you can post them here.

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4:18 AM, Thursday April 29th 2021

Congratulations on finishing the 250 Box Challange.

I want to start by saying I love how confident and clean your lines are. The line weight is well done as well. You might want to change the variety of the boxes a little bit and experiment with different-sized boxes and different amounts of foreshortening as it might increase your understanding of perspective. Still, your overall understanding of perspective seems very good.

The correction lines are extended correctly. There are some divergences in the inner corners of some boxes. This order of drawing boxes, might help you draw more accurately, but the accuracy gets better towards the end.

As for your question, I don't see much difference in your line quality between the first pages and the last ones. What I realized is that, towards the end, it seems like you fixed some of your lines to be more accurate. Fixing the lines creates messier and less confident linework, so that might be the reason you feel like your lines changed towards the end. I think it's good that you spent time understanding the perspective better and tried to fix the specific problems you encountered. That's how you improve.

I am not sure if this answers your question, but if you feel like I missed the point feel free to ask again.

I would recommend you to start more advanced box exercises introduced here and include drawing boxes in your warm-ups. Good luck. :)

Next Steps:

I am glad to mark this lesson as complete. You can go ahead and start Lesson 2.

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1:18 AM, Saturday April 24th 2021

If it is a plotting problem, practicing Ghosted Lines exercise might help you. You can use dots to plan out the lines of the box before drawing the actuaal line, and if you think that one dot isn't working for you, you can just draw another one that will create a better line. I had the same problem in my first pages too, but using dots and the ghosting method really helped me planning my boxes better.

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5:16 AM, Wednesday April 14th 2021

Congratulations on finishing the 250 Box Challenge.

First I want to say your lines are very good and confident. The correction lines are extended correctly. In some of them, hatching lines are rushed, so next time take your time with your hatching lines. If you draw your hatching lines more carefully, the box will appear more clean and solid.

I see a lot of parallel lines and divergence. Don't forget, in 3 point perspective, every set of lines should converge to a specific vanishing point. They can't be parallel or diverge. Every three sets of 4 lines will converge towards a single vanishing point. In the boxes where you apply more foreshortening, the lines converge more, but when you apply little foreshortening the lines become parallel, or they diverge. You can check this explanation to understand the convergence better. Also, this order of drawing boxes may help you with the inner corners.

I would recommend you check the lesson material and the lesson video one more time to understand the convergence and then make 12 more boxes. This time it might be better to change the variety of boxes and draw fewer boxes on one page. It might be four boxes per page. This way you can see how the extended lines converge or diverge better.

Next Steps:

Check the lesson materials one more time and after that draw 12 more boxes.

12:28 PM, Sunday November 8th 2020

Thank you for this critique.

3:21 PM, Wednesday November 4th 2020

Hi, thank you for your revision.

First of all, as I said before, after drawing the center box, draw only two more boxes for each side. When you finished the boxes that sit on the vertical and horizontal axis, the number of your boxes should be equal to number in this example.

Secondly, The rotation of the boxes was too little. Some of the boxes didn't rotate at all. Don't forget that when the box rotates, the vanishing point slides and the convergence of the edges of the new box moves towards the new vanishing point. In this example you can see how the convergence changes as the boxes rotated. If you trace the lines, you can see this change more clearly.

Lastly, try to leave equal and small space between your boxes. You can check here to learn how to use the neighboring edges to draw your new box's edges.

I recommend you first read the rotated box lesson one more time, pay attention to the details, and then draw one more page. You can also check this Youtube video where Uncomfortable explains the exercise himself.

I hope this will be helpful. Good luck :)

Next Steps:

After reading the lesson materials one more time with care, draw one more page of Rotated Boxes.

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7:52 AM, Sunday November 1st 2020

Hi SAFIRIAN. Good job on finishing Lesson 1.

Lines

Your lines are pretty confident in general. In the Superimposed Lines, don't forget to place your pen carefully at the beginning of the line to avoid fraying on both ends. Your Ghosted Lines and Planes look very confident and smooth. There is a bit of wobbling, but not too much. Very nice in general.

Ellipses

Your ellipses look good as well. It is good that you drew through your ellipses. As you keep practicing them in your warm-ups, your ellipses will get better and tighten up. I liked how your ellipses are inside the boundaries, sitting snuggly in their allotted spaces.

In your Funnels, some of the ellipses are not aligned with the minor axis well. Don't forget the minor axis cuts each ellipse into two equal, symmetrical halves. When you do the funnels in your warm-ups, you can try to change the degree of your ellipses and make the ones on the center narrower, as explained in here. Other than that, it looks good. Keep drawing your ellipses with confidence, and they will get better.

Boxes

In Rough Perspective, your lines are confident and clean. Even though I see a bit of wobbling or arching in some of your lines, they are good in general. It seems like you paid enough attention to the vertical and horizontal lines as all the vertical ones are perpendicular to the horizon, and all the horizontal ones are parallel to the horizon. When you drew through your boxes, some of the inner horizontal lines weren't parallel to the horizon, so I would suggest you be careful when you draw them. The lines that should go to the vanishing point are a bit off. Don't forget to use the ghosting method here as well, and plan your lines carefully before drawing it. This way, your lines that go to the vanishing point will be more accurate.

The Rotated Boxes looks pretty good. The rotation is well done. The gaps between the boxes are consistent and small, and you did a good job drawing through your boxes. Maybe you can try to rotate the boxes on the upper left and right corner more.

Your Organic Perspective looks good in general. But I realized you repeated some of your lines and tried to fix them. It is better not to do that since it will make your drawing messier and attract more attention to the mistake. Even if your line looks wrong, don't fix it. Also, the boxes in this part look less planned than the ones in the Rough Perspective. Try taking your time and putting little points where you want your line to start and end, just like you did in the Rough Perspective. This way, your boxes will appear solid and 3D.

I liked your homework in general. It was confident and the concepts introduced in the lessons are applied well. Keep doing them as warm-ups. While doing the 250 Box Challenge, take your time, and don't forget to draw for fun as the challenge might get tedious.

Next Steps:

I am glad to mark this as complete. You can go ahead and start the 25O Box Challenge. Good Luck :)

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10:19 AM, Friday October 30th 2020

Hi SAMUELVI. Good job on finishing Lesson 1.

Lines

Your lines look good and confident. In Super Imposed Lines, I liked how there is no fraying at the beginning. It is good to see you took your time and planned your line before drawing it. Even though there are some frayings at the end of the lines, it will get even better with time.

Your Ghosted Lines and Ghosted Planes are well done. The lines look confident. There is some wobble, but not too much. They are accurate most of the time; there is no overshooting or undershooting.

Ellipses

Your ellipses look good in general. They are confident, sitting snuggly in their allotted spaces. I like how you played with the angels in Table of Ellipses. There are no overlappings. But it looks like you drew around the ellipses more than three times, which is the suggested number. Drawing through three times would be enough.

Your Ellipses in Planes looks good as well. There is no overshooting. They are inside the planes, touching all four edges.

You made a good job aligning your ellipses with the minor axis in most of the Funnels. It is good that the degree of the ellipses increases as you move outwards.

Boxes

It seems like your lines improved throughout the box homework. In Rough Perspective, there is some wobbling in your lines, but by the time you got to the Organic Perspective, your lines look more confident and smooth.

In Rough Perspective, the lines that converge at the vanishing point missed the target quite a bit. Don't forget to use the ghosting method here as well. Before drawing your line, use the ghosting method to plan your line and then draw it. You can check here for a more thorough explanation. It is good that you paid attention to the vertical and horizontal lines. The vertical lines are perpendicular to the horizon and the horizontal lines are parallel to the horizon.

In Rotated Boxes, you didn't draw the boxes on the corner. Also, it looks like you didn't rotate some of the boxes. As the box rotates, the vanishing point slides, and the converging of the rotated box changes. You can read more about this from here. It is good that you kept boxes close together but it seems like you didn't follow the edges of the existing boxes while you draw your new ones. I realized you drew three boxes on either side of the center one both in the horizontal axis and vertical axis. The homework specifically states that there should be two boxes on either side of the center one. Pay attention to that. I recommend you go to the lesson part and read the instructions again and then do the exercise one more time

Your Organic Perspective looks very good. The way that the boxes get smaller as they go further away from you creates a nice illusion of 3D space. It seems like you tried to repeat your lines to fix them. Try to avoid this. If a line doesn't go the way you wanted, don't fix it. Repeating lines only makes your drawing messier and attract more attention to the mistake. If you are going to add line weight, draw with confidence. Use the ghosting method and your shoulder.

All in all, your homework looks good. But in the rotated boxes, there are some rotation issues, and there are more boxes than it is suggested, so I recommend doing one more page of the Rotated boxes.

Next Steps:

I would like to see one more page of Rotated boxes. After you finished that one page, you can answer to this with your Rotated Boxes attached to it and I will look at it. Good luck!