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Oh, I didn't think I'd have to revise what was said here. Honestly, I thought I did poorly on things like the Texture Analysis

But anyways, here are the revisions: https://imgur.com/a/CT33qNE

Thank you for the critique!

You're welcome! This is a great revision. (But you should check your convergences A.S.A.P!)

Also, sorry I didn't link you this earlier, here's a diagram of boxes from different angles and orientations: https://imgur.com/Kqg6uMX. (So you can have fresh ideas as to how to angle your boxes in future warm ups/exercises!)

Hi, hope it's not to late having received this feedback.

• For most of these boxes, the line extensions are incorrect (either that, and/or you put the hatching lines in the back planes, which is also incorrect). You improved your convergences in some ways. But without extending your lines properly (that being, extending them away from the near planes), you can't really get an idea of whether or not your line convergences are correct.

Some examples of when you extended lines incorrectly include: Box 164's & Box 166's blue lines and Box 250's red lines

Examples of when you extended the lines correctly include: all of Box 157's lines & all of 127's lines

On a positive note, your line work for both the hatching lines is pretty decent.

Though, I will say to not repeat strokes, even if there's a mishap. If you do mess up a line, just move on and aim to not make the same mistake in the future. Ghost lines as much as you need to.

Hello, hope it's not too late for you to receive feedback!

• Your line work for most construction lines and hatching lines were done pretty well. But there is some wobbling here and there. If you're not spending enough time ghosting, I'd suggest slowing down a bit so your arm can process what it needs to do. Also, if you feel like you messed up a line, don't try to repeat the stroke in order to cover up mistakes. Just move on and aim to not make the mistake in the future.

• You've applied the convergence lines correctly. Nice job there

• Very nice experimentation on the angles/orientations of the boxes. Keep that up, as drawing from multiple angles will help your understanding of 3D space.

• Nice experimentation with the dimensions of boxes (L x W x H). Next step would be to experiment with drawing boxes with equal lengths, widths, and heights (basically drawing just cubes).

• Your understanding of line convergences got better over time. There was no real problem of having lines diverge.

• Your back/inner corners got better as well.

• There were some cases where the lines were too parallel, as opposed to converging.

• I'd suggest experimenting with more shallow foreshortening. I noticed that most vanishing points were either on the page, or very close to the boxes. Not that that's wrong, but it would also help to try drawing boxes with far away vanishing points (to the point where the VPs would go out of the page).

• When tackling shallow foreshortening, keep in mind that the lines will still not be parallel when drawn. When drawing any box, the lines will still converge, if even just a little.

• If you're having trouble with estimating how much a line will converge, here's a diagram that can help: https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png

Hi, hope it's not to late to receive feedback for this work! I'll be critiquing this:

• Your line work for construction lines and hatching lines is pretty good for the most part. No sign of wobbling. Though, I will say try to keep the line weight subtle. You should also try to not repeat strokes in an effort to fix a mistake. If you made a mistake in line execution, move on and aim to not make the same mistake, instead of repeating the stroke. Ghost the line as much as you need to.

• Your line convergences got better over time. However, for the boxes with shallow foreshortening, it seems that the lines are parallel and no longer converge towards each other.

• Even though the lines in a box are technically parallel in 3D space, when viewed by the human eye and when drawn on a flat page, those lines will converge towards a point in your view/in your 2D page. This is because of the fundamental rule of perspective: as an object gets farther away from the viewer, it will appear to get smaller and smaller. Even if the foreshortening of your lines is shallow, the lines still need to converge towards each other, if even just a little.

• I would also suggest to experiment on drawing boxes in different angles/orientations. It feels as though the drawings fell into a pattern of the same angles as you went through the challenge. It's best to not limit what angle you draw boxes in, as this will impede your development of understanding 3D space. Experimenting with different angles now will round out your understanding and will help you tackle more complex subjects later on.

To sum up what you can improve on:

• Keep line weight subtle, and don't repeat strokes if it's to fix mistakes.

• Experiment with different types of foreshortening. For shallow foreshortening, the lines still have to converge, even if by just a little.

• Experiment with drawing boxes in different angles.

Hi, hope I'm not too late to critique your work!

• Your line work and hatching lines are done pretty well.

• Though you struggled a lot with convergences at first (a lot of the lines were diverging, rather than converging), your convergences improved so much throughout the challenge.

• Your back/inner corners look pretty good with this improvement.

• Though, the back lines (the lines you wouldn't normally see) on some sets converge too rapidly toward the center line (the line you draw when making your Y). Before making any line in a set, try thinking about how the line would converge in comparison to other lines of the same set (as shown in this diagram: https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png). This is because the key thing to remember with drawing boxes is that any lines that are parallel in actual space will appear to converge to the distance to the human eye (and in turn, appear to converge to the distance in your drawing).

• Other than that, great improvement.

• I suggest not repeating any strokes, even if the first attempt didn't go as planned. Repeating strokes will just result in a highlight of your mistakes. Instead of repeating strokes, just move on and aim to not make the same mistake. Ghost for one line, and plan the line/ghost the line well before making the stroke.

• Throughout the challenge, you've drawn every box with a fair amount of variation on its dimensions (length, width, and height), angle, and foreshortening.

• I would suggest experimenting with more drastic dimensions/sizes and angles of boxes you're not very comfortable with when incorporating the boxes into your warm ups. Also continue experimenting with rates of foreshortening.

• Here's a diagram with different angles of boxes: https://imgur.com/Kqg6uMX. (Obviously don't copy them, just glance at some enough to start drawing boxes from angles you feel you need practice on)

To sum up what you can work on:

• Try to think of each line in a set & how it would converge in comparison to other lines of the same set (so you can work on your back lines converging)

• Do not repeat any strokes, even if you messed it up

• Experiment with the dimensions of the box, and the angle of the box

Heya, hope it's not too late to have your work critiqued!

You've certainly improved your boxes overtime, and you've kept your marks pretty confident throughout the boxes.

There are some times where you didn't check the convergences of a set of lines (either that, or whatever you scanned these pictures with brightened up some lines to the point of being invisible). It wouldn't hurt much to check some of those convergences.

One thing I see with this submission is that you tend to draw more boxes with exaggerated/dramatic foreshortening, and not many boxes with shallow/less dramatic foreshortening. A good amount of the vanishing points stayed on the page you were drawing in (some vanishing points even stayed close to the boxes you were drawing).

In the times where you didn't have the vanishing points physically on the page, most of the line sets were too parallel. Even though in actual space, the lines in a set would be parallel, when drawing them, they would never be parallel. The lines would always be converging, even if it’s just by a little bit.

It's best to experiment/see how you handle drawing both types of foreshortening. If you don't feel confident in your ability to draw boxes with less dramatic foreshortening/boxes with vanishing points far from the boxes, I'd suggest trying your hand at that before moving on to Lesson 2. Try doing about 10 boxes if you feel like you unintentionally leaned away from making boxes with shallow foreshortening.

You'll get better with these types of convergences with practice, and these mistakes will iron out with some effort.

Try to think of how every line in a set will behave/converge in comparison to the other lines of the same set, and then draw them. Here's a diagram to give an idea: https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png

I would also suggest experimenting a bit with the orientation of the boxes. Just a little, because you did have some variety in the last few pages of boxes. Here's a diagram with different orientations of boxes: https://imgur.com/Kqg6uMX.

Try not to copy them. Just have a glance at some to have fresh ideas of box orientations.

Other than that, good work with the 250 box challenge, and congrats powering through them!

Very new in answering questions, but I'll try to answer anyway.

The idea is to still not focus on perfectionism, just understanding what the exercise is meant to teach you. It could be an actual concept (like contour lines), or something introduced to your subconscious (like observation). Even though your work may not be good, there is a difference between work that looks like the person understood the point of the exercise, and work that looks like the person didn't.

Focusing on just perfection would give those critiquing your work a very different picture of what the best of your ability is. Not to mention that perfection can take your focus away from the actual purpose of the exercise.

As for your work that you're unsure about, it's probably best to do warm-ups that make you work on your shortcomings (such as Funnels for the ellipses). If you still think you need more practice, I don't think it would hurt to practice certain parts of an exercise for a bit before beginning the actual homework (like individual S-curves for the Organic Arrows exercise). Don't get too invested in grinding it out, just warm-up enough to get into the flow of things, if even just barely.

Perhaps refer to the #critique-exchange channel on the Drawabox Discord. You might have to critique others' work for your work to be put on Elodin's list.

I'm sorry? What is this for?