erdem2231

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    12:20 PM, Monday July 6th 2020

    First of all, welcome. I hope you find this course helpful and keep enjoying lessons to come.

    There is an overall theme in your homeworks - your lines are not confident. For example in superimposed lines homework, end product should look like a bunch of straight line going some degrees off from each other. But your lines look very wobbly. The possible reasons to why - and I quote the instructions of this homework - is that you're hesitating and not quite giving up control. You should perform one swift motion from your shoulder. At this point, you're not expected to draw a perfect line from one point to another. In fact you're not even expected to draw a line from a point to another. You're only expected to draw a straight line. Dots you put on paper are to only guide you and help you get muscle memory. If you remember from materials on the site, there are three levels of lines, and wobbly lines don't fall under in any of those levels.

    For your ellipses and boxes, there isn't any other major mistake other than the wobbly lines. Even when drawing things like this that seems like require accurate lines, you're priority is still confidence in lines. Even when you draw a small line for a box, draw it from your shoulder with confidence, to gain some muscle memory. And if your lines are a bit off from the dots you put on the paper, you can compensate that with the lines you're gonna put after. But you can't compensate wobbly lines.

    As I said, there isn't much more than line quality problems. For this I'm gonna request a revision - I want you to do one page of superimposed lines, one page of ghosted lines, and after you finish this two, one page of ellipse tables. When doing the ellipse tables, I want you to implement some of the confidence you got from doing the first two exercises in to drawing ellipses.

    See you soon and keep up the good work!!

    Next Steps:

    I request one page of superimposed lines, one page of ghosted lines, and one page of ellipse tables. I want you to be confident with your marks you put on paper. Feel free to re-read the learning materials on the site.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    11:47 AM, Monday July 6th 2020

    Looks pretty good. Some things I'd like to point out moving forwards:

    -Be mindful of the line quality of your contour lines. If they're some wobbly lines, they'll look like a bunch of wobbly lines. Be confident with your lines before anything, and accuracy will come overtime. Also remember that if your contour lines are more circular in the middle of the part, it will imply that is more of a cylinder (like a metal tube). If it gets flatter in the middle, it implies a flatter surface (a part of a succulent or aloe vera for example). Be mindful of this and use whichever suits your object the best.

    -Think a bit more about how intersections work - for example what would it look like if a corner of a cube was cutting into a sphere and how you could imply this in a drawing. I highly recommend reading the article on subject and the instructions for orm intersections homework.

    I hope you enjoy lesson 3. Wish you all the best. Take care!

    Next Steps:

    Be mindful of your line quality and think about how you can make a bunch of lines like a 3d object. All the best.

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    5:55 AM, Monday July 6th 2020

    You can move onto lesson 3, but get a warm up routine that can help you improve. Your lines better at times, so I think you are capable and can move on. I don't think a whole redo is necessary.

    8:22 PM, Sunday July 5th 2020

    Oh okay then. Take care! :)

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    11:27 AM, Sunday July 5th 2020

    Also, your lines get a bit wobbly in boxes. So always draw confident lines from your shoulder and accuracy will come after. Remember, confidence over accuracy. Good luck with 250 box challenge!!

    Next Steps:

    Confidence, confidence, confidence...

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    11:21 AM, Sunday July 5th 2020

    Congratulations on finishing the first lesson. I hope you enjoy all the lessons to come!!

    For you line exercises, I think you did a good job. There are some arches on ghosted lines exercise but I don't see much of a wobble. Your planes look crisp as well, as much as I can tell. Keep drawing confident lines from your shoulder and you'll be good to go.

    Your ellipses look wobbly overall. But seem like you tidied up a bit in funnels exercise, but it can be better. First do some rounds of ghosting, then draw your ellipses with confidence. This means in a fast -not so fast that you lose control but fast enough that your hand doesn't shake and create wobbles- and smooth movement. After you got this down, work on your accuracy. This courses priority is confidence, so never look past confidence to spare some accuracy.

    There are also some wobble in your boxes. I'm gonna make some suggestions from the mistakes I made because your boxes look like what mine used to look like. Firstly always draw with your shoulder, even if it's a short line. There are a lot more muscles that control your wrist than the ones that control your shoulder. What this means is that when you're using your wrist, so many little muscles that work in different directions will be activated, and in result create wobble. Secondly, as I said for ellipses, confidence is above accuracy. Even when your building boxes that seem like require some accuracy, you can put confident marks that pass or come short of your planned dots, and you can compensate these with your next lines by adjusting your planned dots. But if you put wobbly but accurate lines, end result will look like a bunch of wobbly lines, not like a box. Illusion lies in line quality, so never pare down on your line quality. Also remember, lines are on 3 levels and wobbly lines are not even level 1. Please feel free to ask for help from me or others if you have further questions.

    Other than that, I think you did good with rotating boxes, rotation seems alright. And there could be more variations of boxes in organic perspectives, but you'll get that down in 250 boxes challenge.

    Overall you did a good job overall. And you'll have plenty of opportunities to improve in 250 box challenge. Good luck and keep up the good work!!

    Next Steps:

    Work on your line quality and always draw from your shoulder. Good luck with 250 box challenge!!

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    8:55 AM, Sunday July 5th 2020

    Another thing I'd like to point out is that in funnels exercise, you should've drawn the curves with a circular object, and your ellipses don't snug in properly. Not a major problem, do some rounds of ghosting, then draw and you'll make it. Also your line weights don't help much in terms of 3d. I suggest that you re-read uncomfortable's articles on the topic. Other than that pretty good work.

    Next Steps:

    Improve line quality - draw with confidence. You'll be good to go. Good luck.

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    8:21 AM, Sunday July 5th 2020

    Congratulations on finishing lesson 2, and 250 box challenge as I can tell. Keep up the good work!!

    First off, I must say that your work looks pretty good overall. I think got the point of this lesson. But there are some things that I'd like to point out.

    Up to organic forms with contour lines, you seem to do a pretty good job. Lines are very crisp, ellipse allignment is very good, contour lines hook on both ends. They look really good. Only thing is that your contour lines seem a bit flat in the middle. You can wrap those around a bit better.

    On texture analysis, you did a pretty good job as well. Density transition looks really good, although dark areas are a bit too forward in my opinion, sparse areas could hold more place in my opinion. Also you seem to miss the point that one of the analysis should've been of crumpled paper. I'm not gonna request a revision for this, but I suggest that you do that analysis on your own.

    Dissections look pretty good as well, but you could wrap the texture around on some of the forms better (for example octopus rings and slime). You didn't have the same issue with other textures, so I suggest you imply the same thing for these textures as well - use density and contour lines to guide the texture around.

    Intersections look pretty good as well. But some cast shadows look like they're sticking out on organic intersections. Wrap the shadow around the form underneath, and you'll be good to go.

    As I said, I think your pretty good. And I hope enjoy lessons to come. Good luck with plants!!

    Next Steps:

    Wrap the textures around more, and it'll be more than enough. Good luck!!

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    8:00 AM, Sunday July 5th 2020

    First of all congragulations on finishing lesson 2. I'm glad that you ind the exercises helpful. Keep up the good work!

    On organic arrows, I don't think you're as bad as you think. Maybe perspective could be more dramatic but they seem to do the trick. Only big problem here is the line quality - your lines look a bit chicken scrath-y. And I see this issue on the homeworks after the arrows. My suggestion is that don't try to control lines as you're drawing, do some rounds of ghosting and then draw with confidence from your shoulder. And you'll be good to go.

    On organic forms with ellipses, you mostly got them correctly. Only thing to improve on is ellipse allignment, as I think they look arbitrarily placed here and there. Other than that, ellipses look crisp and mostly snug. On organic forms with lines however, line quality issue comes again and as you can see, even though you're contour lines are placed correctly, they don't look like surface of an object. They just look like lines. Just remember to be confident with your lines and this issue will be solved.

    Your texture analysis looks pretty good. You've got density mostly right, despite on some textures transition looks a bit abrupt. But you'll get over that as you move on. On dissections, I think there are a lot more to improve on. You should work on wrapping textures around round forms, as it seems like you put texture on a flat surface in your work. Textures on such objects will go along the contour lines of the form. So they will go around, not in a straight line. Also putting some density around the edges will help you get that illusion.

    Your form intersection work looks pretty good. Your line quality looks a lot better in both intersection homeworks than the first to homeworks. And you tried to wrap the cast shadow around the form underneath, which is very good. But maybe you could wrap them around a bit better to improve the illusion.

    Overall, I think you did a pretty good job. There are things to improve, I'm sure you'll fix those issues in the lessons to come. Good luck with 250 box challenge!!

    Next Steps:

    Be confident with your lines, and wrap textures around forms. Other than that, keep up the good work!!

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    5:58 AM, Sunday July 5th 2020

    Thank you for prompt and detailed response. I'll be sure to keep your suggestions in mind and try to improve on them. Again thank you for taking the time!

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