dgscott922

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Good clarification when it comes to feedback. Thanks for your feedback, sincerely.

I guess I'll have to think about if I'll continue to do this program. I was and am willing to do the hard work, but if I have eccentricities that there isn't room for, then maybe I'm just not cut out for this stuff.

That's a good point about better feedback if you can't erase, but honestly, if you're messing up your lines all the time, the feedback is going to be, "your lines aren't accurate, draw from your shoulder." Well duh, I already knew that I sucked at lines. At worst, it could confuse feedback because an incorrect line could give the impression that someone doesn't understand perspective when in fact, they just slipped with their hand.

My point about the system wasn't that it's hard. I'm not averse to hard work. My point is that, if something is meant to teach people, and 100% inflexibility when dealing thousands of humans, many of whom learn differently, might not always be ideal.

I'm almost finished with lesson 2. Took me a few weeks to get though both. I know I'm not going to get good lines right away. My main point is that the exercise starts to feel like a waste of time if I've already messed up the perspective-- continuing to work on that doesn't help me understand perspective any better.

I understand and respect the structure of drawabox. My original point is basically just inquiring if there is any flexibility for people who have mental health concerns or who aren't learning efficiently within that system. If there's zero flexibility in that regard, maybe the system is flawed, because not everyone is the same.

Yeah, I've looked at that and I definitely see the value in fineliners. I'm just not sure seeing myself fail and making horrible lines is worth sacrificing learning perspective more efficiently. Like, if the perspective is already wrong, it's not going to teach you how to do it properly by finishing it, so isn't it just a waste of time?

I'm doing the 50% rule with digital.

Here's an example of why the complete inability to erase is very stressful to me: if you're drawing a cube and you make one wrong line, the entire cube is going to be wrong, and any time you spend on the rest of the cube is wasted because you're not learning to understand it in perspective because the perspective is already wrong.

Another example is how I was doing the form intersection exercise, and I was trying to draw a circle, and it ended up being horribly deformed because sometimes that's how elipses turn out even if you're generally good at them. That giant deformed circle isn't going to make a 3d shape that's conducive to the exercise, let alone the sphere, and now, the entire page is obscured by this useless shape, which makes the rest of the exercise more difficult, not because you're learning more, but because you can't see properly.

Making these mistakes that inhibit my learning doesn't make me feel more confident. In fact, it's the exact opposite. It makes me feel like I'm a failure incapable of creating anything decent and I'm wasting my time even trying because all doing is just adding to a drawing that's already wrong and therefore isn't helping me learn perspective.

Doing the 250 box challenge, after 150 boxes, I felt like I wasn't learning objects in space any better. It became just an exercise in making straight lines because the moment you didn't, you're just reinforcing work on an incorrect perspective.

I don't feel like the value of always respecting every mark right away is worth sacrificing the increased learning or perspective, let alone my mental health or stressing out my partner. Especially when you consider that you can practice deliberate mark-making in other ways that won't ruin an exercise when you fail.

Yes, I get it now. Thanks!

Thank you so much for the thorough critique! As for the funnels exercise, I did do it, but it somehow got missed in the uploads, so I've done so and linked it below.

As for lines, yes, I am drawing from the shoulder and am consciously building an awareness of it. In fact, prior to posting this, I'd filled about 10 pages with my attempts to draw point-to-point ghosted lines, and about 6 additional pages of elipses, but it's really hard for me. So please, understand that I'm trying my absolute best and have spent hours trying to get this right. I'm well aware of what I'm doing wrong with my lines and overcoming my personal feelings of inadequacy about being unable to do it right is an ongoing process.

Starting this process has been hard for me, and one of the hardest things is trying to get over me feelings that I'm never going to be good enough, but I'm forcing myself to keep going.

https://imgur.com/BX6DFtg