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Hi there chxlle046,

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Duplicate submission (this one had incorrect link), so commenting to remove from queue.

Hi there, rawcandyy!

No worries, I'll comment on your other submission to help push it out of queue.

Congratulations on finishing the 250 box challenge!

Before I delve into your boxes, let’s talk about lines. You’re executing confident strokes, which is fantastic. However, there are quite a bit of repeated lines. So much that I wasn’t sure if they were for line weight or for correcting your original line, but I’ll address them both. If you have an errant line, no matter how tempting it is, do not correct it and stick with what you have. When applying line weight, they should be:

• applied to the silhouette (outer edges) of the box to reinforce it as one solid entity

• subtle. Just one extra line over will suffice, ghosted and executed confidently like your original lines.

Onto boxes! You have a nice mix of boxes with various orientations, though I would say you have much more instances of dramatic foreshortening with more extreme perspective applied. While it’s good to practice dramatic foreshortening, these aren’t as common as objects of shallow foreshortening, so I would’ve liked to see more shallow perspective in your submission.

Nevertheless, boxes are pretty solid from the start. There are some typical issues with diverging lines, but these improve with more accuracy as you end the challenge. I think you’re still struggling with the inner corner diverging, which is normal. Continue to think about the relationship between the overall sets of lines rather than just the pairs of lines. Here is a diagram that helps explain the relationship of the lines. Taking this into account, you can also try to modify the order in which you draw the box, as briefly explained here by community member Elodin. These diagrams may help you with your approach to drawing boxes.

All in all, I think you’re doing a pretty good job.

Hello ElGirard!

I’d like to congratulate you on finishing the 250 box challenge; it’s certainly no easy feat!

Let’s first talk about the lines.

Line quality is a bit of a mix, especially in the beginning where there are some really nice, confident strokes, and others more hesitant and wobbly. Although they tend to improve over the challenge, I am frequently seeing corrected lines. No matter how tempting it is to correct a line, don’t do it. Yes, it can be frustrating, but in the end, a smooth, confident line that is slightly inaccurate is much better than that of a line that is accurate but wobbly. So remember to keep using those dots to plan; ghost with your shoulder; and execute the line confidently.

This holds true to any line you draw, including line weight and hatching lines. There were times where I wasn’t quite sure if you were applying line weight or if you were correcting the lines. However, the extra marks in both external and internal lines led me to believe the lines were corrected. If there were some attempt to apply line weight, they should be:

• applied around the silhouette (outer edges) of the box, and

• subtle. This can be accomplished by superimposing the line (like in lesson 1) confidently and just once.

When adding hatching lines, treat them with care and execute them as with any other lines you draw. Hatching lines should be tight, consistent, and parallel to each other. Moreover, they should have a solid start and ending point, from edge to edge on one of the box’s face. The hatching lines in your boxes admittedly start off a little rough, but improve over time. However, some still start and end past the edges of the box, in turn slightly undoing the hard work you’ve done to maintain a solid 3D box.

Now, onto your boxes!

You have a pretty good mixture of shallow and dramatic foreshortening. You’re also experimenting with various orientations, so that’s great. Don’t be afraid to draw a little bigger, about 5-6 boxes per page as you’ve done with your last 2 pages.

You start off with the usual issues of diverging lines. I also see some moments where you ran into confusion on which direction to extend your error check lines, but you managed to fix it and get a hang of it pretty early on. Still, be careful to extend the error check lines from the starting point of the original line (tracing over it) and extending out (versus starting the error check line at the end of the original line and extending out).

Also, be careful of boxes that become distorted (example boxes: LIV, CXCVI, CCVIII).

As you approach the final boxes, there are still a couple of issues particularly with the inner corner of the box. Continue to think about the relationship between the overall sets of lines rather than just the pairs of lines. Here is a diagram by Uncomfortable that helps explain the relationship of the lines. Taking this into account, you can also try to modify the order in which you draw the box, as briefly mentioned here by community member Elodin.

All in all, there is considerable improvement from your first boxes to your last boxes, and the boxes are pretty solid.

So with that, congratulations on completing this challenge, and feel free to move on to Lesson 2!

Hello S3BAS!

Overall, your submission looks pretty solid!

Lines

Your lines are overall pretty confident with smooth and continuous flow. There are some that wobble slightly as you draw towards the targeted point. To note, confidence should take precedence and be prioritized before accuracy. It’s ok that the lines aren’t fully accurate, as it is imperative to first develop the shoulder muscle memory to draw out smooth, confident strokes. So continue to ghost and execute every line with your shoulder. Essentially, a confident stroke that is slightly inaccurate is better than an accurate but wobbly line.

Ellipses

Ellipses are off to a good start with overall confident strokes. The ellipses don’t quite accurately fit into the allotted space, but that’s ok because you are clearly focused on developing and maintaining smooth and confident strokes, which is the priority at this time. There are a few ellipses that turn a little sharply and loses its roundedness in the funnels exercise, so be careful with that. Ellipses in the funnel are generally aligned to the minor axis, so nice job with that.

Boxes

As you continue to go through your boxes, I notice your lines remain confident, which is awesome!

Some lines are repeated/corrected. No matter how tempting it is to correct an errant line, do not correct or repeat over it to correct it. You mentioned two approaches on how you are drawing the lines for the boxes — the better approach would be to plan using dots. The great thing about dots is you don’t have to commit to the very first dot(s) you place, whereas once you draw a line, you’re committed to that line. Basically, dots can be moved around as you see fit before you commit to a line. But once you draw the line, stick with what you have even if it’s wrong.

As for the steps after the Y shape, the 250 box challenge material expands on drawing boxes and how to plan your next lines after placing down the Y. So you’ll have plenty of practice with this. Nonetheless, let’s look at your box exercises!

Rough perspective

You’ve done a pretty nice job maintaining horizontal lines to be parallel to the horizon line, and vertical lines perpendicular to it.

Rotating boxes

First off, congratulations on getting through this exercise!

The boxes are generally rotating, so nice job. The boxes are also well neighbored to each other, and you are drawing through your boxes, which is great.

Organic perspective

Great job getting through this exercise, it’s another tough one! As the boxes get slightly smaller on the path, you’ve conveyed a sense that they move slightly away from the viewer. In terms of perspective, there are some sets of parallel lines that diverge away, making planes that are further away appear to get larger instead of slightly smaller. But no worries, you’ll have plenty of practice in the 250 Box Challenge!

With that said, you’re off to a nice start!

Hello SedroPantos!

Overall, your submission looks pretty solid!

Lines

Your lines are overall pretty confident with smooth and continuous flow. There are some that wobble as you draw towards the targeted point. To note, confidence should take precedence and be prioritized before accuracy. It’s ok that the lines aren’t fully accurate, as it is imperative to first develop the shoulder muscle memory to draw out smooth, confident strokes. So continue to ghost and execute every line with your shoulder. Essentially, a confident stroke that is slightly inaccurate is better than an accurate but wobbly line.

Ellipses

Ellipses are off to a good start and are generally confident. There are a couple of exceptions, where the ellipses wobble. A few ellipses also turn sharply as you fit them in their allotted spaced. Still, the priority will be on developing and maintaining smooth and confident strokes. Then you can start working on its roundedness, and finally its accuracy.

With the exception of a couple, the ellipses in the funnel are generally aligned to the minor axis, so nice job with that. Good job drawing through each ellipses appropriately (2-3 times).

Boxes

As you continue to go through your boxes, there are some nice confident lines. But there is still a fair share of hesitant lines. So remember to plan, ghost, and execute the line confidently with your shoulder for every line. Also, I notice there are no repeated/corrected lines (maybe just two that I saw) — meaning you’re sticking to the lines that you have put down on the page, which is awesome!

Rough perspective

A couple of things to keep in mind for this exercise:

• Horizontal lines should be parallel to the horizon line

• Vertical lines should be perpendicular to the horizon line

While there are plenty of evidence you are doing this (which is certainly a challenge in itself!), there are some lines that stray off diagonally.

Rotating boxes

First off, congratulations on getting through this exercise!

The boxes are along the horizontal and vertical axis are actually not rotating, meaning the boxes are sharing a similar or the same vanishing point as the box adjacent to it. There is some rotation occurring on the boxes moving away from the center. The boxes are fairly well neighbored to each other, and you are drawing through your boxes, which is great.

Organic perspective

Great job getting through this exercise, it’s another tough one! As the boxes get slightly smaller on the path, you’ve captured a sense that they move slightly away from the viewer. In terms of perspective, there are some sets of parallel lines that diverge away, making planes that are further away appear to get larger instead of slightly smaller. But no worries, you’ll have plenty of practice in the 250 Box Challenge!

With that said, you’re off to a nice start!

Hello shirx04,

There are a few exercises missing from this submission. Please re-upload with a link to the completed submission. You can reply to this message with the new link, and I’d be more than happy to look over this with you.

The exercises missing from this submission are:

• Superimposed lines (2 pages)

• Ghosted lines (1 page)

• Ghosted planes (1 page)

• Tables of ellipses (1 pages)

• Ellipses in ghosted planes (1 page)

• Rough Perspective (1 page)

• Organic perspective (2 pages)

No need to apologize! You are welcome. Good luck with the box challenge!

Ok, great. It looks like it was submitted for official critique, so one of the TAs will have to look at it. Good luck!

Hello idkhowtodrawellipses!

Overall, you have done a pretty good job!

Lines

Your lines are overall pretty confident with smooth and continuous flow. There are some that waver/wobble a bit as you draw towards the targeted point. To note, confidence should take precedence and be prioritized before accuracy. It’s ok that the lines aren’t fully accurate, as it is imperative to first develop the shoulder muscle memory to draw out smooth, confident strokes. So continue to ghost and execute every line with your shoulder. Essentially, a confident stroke that is slightly inaccurate is better than an accurate but wobbly line.

Ellipses

Ellipses are off to a good start and are generally confident. There are a couple of exceptions, where the ellipses turn sharply as you fit your ellipses in their allotted spaces. Ellipses in the funnel are generally aligned to the minor axis, though there are a couple that are off alignment and loses its symmetry on either side of the minor axis.

Boxes

As you continue to go through your boxes, there are some nice confident lines. But there is still a few hesitant lines. So remember to plan, ghost, and execute the line confidently with your shoulder for every line. Also, I notice you don’t repeat/correct any lines (I just saw one in organic perspective), which is great!

Rough perspective

A couple of things to keep in mind for this exercise:

• Horizontal lines should be parallel to the horizon line

• Vertical lines should be perpendicular to the horizon line

While there are plenty of evidence you are doing this (which is certainly a challenge in itself!), there are some lines that stray off diagonally.

Rotating boxes

Kudos on getting through this exercise! The boxes are generally rotating along the vertical and horizontal axes, so nice job. The boxes are well neighbored to each other, and you are drawing through your boxes, which is great.

Organic perspective

As the boxes get slightly smaller on the path, you’ve conveyed a sense that they move slightly away from the viewer. The boxes are also rotating as they move along the path. In terms of perspective, there are some sets of parallel lines that diverge away, making planes that are further away appear to get larger instead of slightly smaller. But no worries, you’ll have plenty of practice in the 250 Box Challenge!

Congratulations on completing lesson 1!