Thank you so much for the feedback on this challenge. The diagram really helped me in seeing exactly what i was missing in my wheels. It is interesting becuase when looking at the reference, the form shadows are much more present, but now I can see the cast shadow around the forms.
Thank you again
This makes loads of sense! I think I am going to use a random choice generator, along with paying attention to what I need to work on so I choice what is right when I need it.
Thank you so much for looking at my submission, and staying up so late! (sorry about the lack of sleep provided!)
You are 100% correct that I hatched the pyramids wrongly now that I am looking them.
Something I wanted to ask, and maybe on a critique it isn,t the right place to ask, (feel free to tell me to move this question to discord or something). How long should a warm up session be/ how does one curate a good warm up regiment with such a wide variety of exercises to choose from on DaB. I tend to want to get my arm used to the movements I will be doing to draw and select table of ellipses, super imposed lines( I,C,S lines), and ellipses in planes in pretty much the same manner in which a pitcher throws a ball over and over before stepping to the plate("this is what I am going to do, let me get the kinks out of my arm now.") But with more involved warm ups (like form intersections of even applying construction to in insects) I could spend an hr warming up byt way of finishing the exercise,so I do typically pick those for warm ups and more as full exercises that will be my drawing session for the day (about once every 2 weeks- a month) but by not warm up with them I lose something to be learned (disguised as a warm up so it is a double benefit to do them!)
"This manner of working, with its focus on precision, is definitely a new introduction at this point, and many students do still struggle with the idea of taking it as far as it will go." Truer words have never been said. I struggled a lot with drawing like this and to be honest felt very un-confident with this submission. Specifically, I struggled with building a bounding box. I could not once building a box that I liked. Drawing the base first and then everything gave me such a headache (and I tried other planes first and building off it as well, and the normal box methods as well) A LOT of the crumpled paper sitting in my trash are whacky boxes. I just could not visualize a box the objects would fit it, or where the front to side plane of that box would shift. So i had to find a way to compensate for that portion that just was not clicking in my head, thus the clippers with its much bigger box, which I am very happy it worked out in the end. But you can see in the orthos that I made the planes too big there, and I did try to fix it in the actual drawing, but after many attempts I settled for the one submitted.
Thank you again, on to 25 wheels!
This was very helpful.
Thank you!
Thank you for looking over my work.
Mind blown, but just about everything that you have mentioned was something I thought at one point or another, this just further confirms were my gaps are and how I fill them.
In the second paragraph where you mention the unevenness of my ellipses, having had draw at least 500 ellipses, that was something I struggled greatly with throughout this challenge. I have been employing the ghosting method, if I had to guess it is more likely your second point. This is probably a question that has no answer; other than after the mark has been made, how can you tell if you are drawing from elbow or shoulder when drawing ellipses? Since those two joint seem to work together drawing this motion, it has been more difficult to "feel it out" as opposed to when drawing a straight line.
Thank you again
totally not asked for extra page. I wanted to try to put your feedback into practice.
http://imgur.com/gallery/j6nURsJ
when it comes to the eyes, I can explain where I went wrong. I actually didn't realize the upside pentagon was a required shape. I understood it as "make sure sure your cuts both follow along the surface of your sphere and have the same # of planes." So i attempted to make sure the sockets I used had the same # of sides and followed along the surface. I also misinterpreted my references and your diagram of the lids made me realize that.
Thank you for your feedback, I will proceed to the next leg of the journey.
No problem! I am glad I was able to be of assistance
Thank you for looking over my work! As I was reading this, I noticed that just about everything pointed was something that I noticed when I would evaluate my assignments once completed. I will take the appropriate steps moving forward to make sure I am implementing this advice into my work going forward.
Hello! I'll be doing your feedback today, hopefully I can be helpful!
Starting with your super imposed lines. What is see here are a few things. I see there is a fair bit of wobbling in your lines. This is to be expected because you are just now learning this. I see that in the smaller to mid lines you have more confidence in your strokes than the longer line. You can read more about wobbling here. As you continue on to the second page, your straights have definitely improved, but your curves are still wobbling. Do not forget to ghost every single line you draw, straight or curved.
In the ghosted lines, these are some great lines. Keep an eye out for the arching lines. If you notice your lines bend in one direction, mindfully go in the opposite. Eventually your brain will register you want a straight not an arc.
Your ghosted planes are good. There is evidence of the things I have pointed as well as overshooting. The one thing that really stood out to me was the correction. Fine liners do not let you hide your mistakes, so you have to embrace them and either work around them, or except them. Trying to correct them will actually hinder your growth because you are thinking "I have fixed this" instead of looking at your mistake and figuring out where is the mistake happened and how to fix it in the future.
Ellipses- these are good! For the most part they seem confident and sit within their bounds. Make sure you are going 2 or 3 rotations over your ellipses. This and this should help you in your future endeavors. When you draw an elippses with no clear plan, they will tend to look messy. I will give the same advice for planes as well. Your funnels are where you shine! if you compare page 1 of your ghosted ellipses to those on your funnel, WOW! Keep it up!
Your boxes look really good, Your perspective is also improving. You took the most difficult assignments and really showed up! Congrats on a job well done!
Some things to be conscience of: Make sure you are using felt tip pens, ghost and plan all your marks, and do not try to correct a mistake. I am going to mark this lesson as complete
Next Steps:
Wait for two agreements and proceed to 250 boxes
Good day! I will try to be as helpful as a can with my feedback here. With Lesson 1 the big take away is line confidence by measure of flow, so that is what I will be looking for. Looking at your lines from the start of this lesson, I am seeing confidently drawn lines in the superimposed, although it feels as though on your first attempt there was just speed and no purpose, taking a look at the next page of imposed, this looks to have been worked on. I see alot of missing though, with mileage your aim will get better. With the elipses I see progress with the confidence, they flow well. However I do see lot haphazardly drawn elipses. On the first page of ghosted elipses, all the elipses on the left except the bottom one look rushed. Make sure you ghost EVERY mark made in DaB until you are confident that you got it. I see this problem show itself again and again in your other HW assignments involving elipses. The good news is that I also see progress, you are getting better at the follow through of them. Your lines are good, but i see alot of correcting, either you draw over a line to fix it or draw another line. DaB is not about making pretty things, it is about learning how to to draw, except your mistakes and learn from them, ask yourself why did my line not come out how I wanted. The fine liner makes it impossible to hide these errors. You did well on the rotated and organic perspective boxes , with the 250 box challenge coming up, this will only get better. I recommend doing these again once you finish 250. All in all, I think you progressed very well in this lesson, keep up the good work
Next Steps:
Wait for two approvals and then continue to next step in the journey. remember these are now your warm ups going forward.
Let's be real here for a second: fineliners can get pricey. It varies from brand to brand, store to store, and country to country, but good fineliners like the Staedtler Pigment Liner (my personal brand favourite) can cost an arm and a leg. I remember finding them being sold individually at a Michael's for $4-$5 each. That's highway robbery right there.
Now, we're not a big company ourselves or anything, but we have been in a position to periodically import large batches of pens that we've sourced ourselves - using the wholesale route to keep costs down, and then to split the savings between getting pens to you for cheaper, and setting some aside to one day produce our own.
These pens are each hand-tested (on a little card we include in the package) to avoid sending out any duds (another problem with pens sold in stores). We also checked out a handful of different options before settling on this supplier - mainly looking for pens that were as close to the Staedtler Pigment Liner. If I'm being honest, I think these might even perform a little better, at least for our use case in this course.
We've also tested their longevity. We've found that if we're reasonably gentle with them, we can get through all of Lesson 1, and halfway through the box challenge. We actually had ScyllaStew test them while recording realtime videos of her working through the lesson work, which you can check out here, along with a variety of reviews of other brands.
Now, I will say this - we're only really in a position to make this an attractive offer for those in the continental United States (where we can offer shipping for free). We do ship internationally, but between the shipping prices and shipping times, it's probably not the best offer you can find - though this may depend. We also straight up can't ship to the UK, thanks to some fairly new restrictions they've put into place relating to their Brexit transition. I know that's a bummer - I'm Canadian myself - but hopefully one day we can expand things more meaningfully to the rest of the world.
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