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    10:57 AM, Monday April 12th 2021

    Hello, thank you for the time for writing my critique!

    I would like to ask however, how would line weight be able play a role in drawing my back corner better? Most of the time, I've been following that tip in the Discord being "draw the back corner earlier".

    Also, if I can ask again, will more on line weight be covered in the later lessons?

    Again, thank you for your help and your response in advance!

    3:26 AM, Friday April 9th 2021

    Thank you, that makes sense. Initially, I tried to find out why some of my lines weren't converging at the right point but couldn't figure it out.

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    8:40 AM, Tuesday April 6th 2021

    Hi! Here's my critique of your work.

    Lines

    Superimposed Lines

    Pretty solid. Most of your superimposed lines were only fraying at the end, with a few exceptions, where the start was also frayed as well (mainly on the first page). Just keep in mind to make sure you're positioning your pen correctly, before ghosting a line.

    Ghosted Lines/Planes

    I noticed some of your lines arching in the opposite direction. Make sure you're using your shoulder to draw your shoulder when drawing your lines. Though, if it still persists, you can it try to arch consciously to the opposite direction while drawing that said line. You may read it up here. Don't forget that you can rotate your page to a comfortable angle before ghosting/executing a line.

    However, most of your lines seemed to be smooth without much wobbling, that's great!

    Ellipses

    Tables of Ellipses

    Try to have your ellipses kept within the bounds of the table they're in, without overflowing out of them, or overlapping between other ellipses. Just like drawing normal lines, you can rotate your page/ghost your ellipses as many times as you need before executing them with confidence.

    Ellipses in Planes

    Most of your ellipses touched all four sides within its plane, except for just a small few, where it missed touching a side otherwise.

    Funnels

    The minor axis (the line in the middle) should be cutting ellipses in 2 symmetrical halves. Some of your ellipses were aligned to that said axis (allowing it to be cut symmetrically), some were not.

    Overall, remember to ghost your ellipses whenever necessary, and try not to have them overflow out of the space they're assigned to (applies the Ellipses in Planes and Funnels exercises as well).

    Boxes

    Plotted Perspective

    No problems here.

    Rough Perspective

    WhiIe it's really minimal, I noticed that you had repeated some of your lines here. No matter how off a line is, try not to repeat it at all, keep the line as it if were correct and move on. You may risk your lines being messy otherwise.

    Besides that, your width lines should be parallel to the horizon line, with the height lines perpendicular to horizon line. Reason being, I noticed that some lines were rather than being slanted/angled than they should be. Here's an example of what I mean from your work. You can read from the homework notes which goes into this problem here.

    Though, it's understandably hard to get this down because you may need a bit of precision. You can try to make sure that your points line up to each other.

    Rotated Boxes

    Just a minor issue, I noticed some boxes were missing? Though that aside, your boxes are rotating, good job!

    Organic Perspective

    I noticed a few lines of your boxes being parallel instead of converging, shown here. Though, most of your boxes were converging otherwise, which is good. You can check this image to show the difference of converging (expected for 3 Point Perspective Boxes) and parallel lines.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to the 250 Box Challenge, you'll be able to practice more drawing of 3 Point Perspective Boxes, and ghosting of lines. You can do any of the previous exercises as your initial warm-up, before doing your homework.

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    3:05 PM, Monday April 5th 2021

    Hi there! Here's my critique of your work.

    Lines

    Superimposed Lines

    Some of your lines were fraying at the start instead of the end, which should not be the case otherwise, hence you may need to take time to properly position your starting point of a line before ghosting it.

    Also, I noticed some of your lines having a wobble. Remember, confidence > accuracy.

    A wobbly line is incorrect, no matter how accurate it is, and a confident line is much more preferred. With practice, the accuracy will get better while drawing smooth and confident lines.

    Ghosted Lines/Planes

    I noticed some of your lines arching, make sure you're using your shoulder pivot to draw your lines. Though if it still happens while using the shoulder, you can try to slightly arch consciously to the opposite direction while drawing that said line.

    Don't forget you can rotate your page to get a comfortable angle before an executing a line.

    Ellipses

    Tables of Ellipses

    The tables of your ellipses should be kept within the bounds, of the boxes, as some of them are overflowing out of them. At the same time, try not to have them float around without touching the sides or leaving any unnecessary gaps in-between open, shown here. See this as a reference from the notes. A few of them were overlapping with other ellipses, which should not be the case.

    Ellipses in Planes

    Similarly to the Tables of Ellipses exercise, try to keep your ellipses within your planes without overflowing. At the same time, try to have them hit all four sides of the planes, a few did, but most did not.

    Funnels

    The minor axis (line in the middle) should be cutting ellipses in 2 symetrical halves, with those ellipses being aligned to said axis, shown here otherwise. See this as a reference from the notes. Again, try to keep your ellipses within the funnel as well without overflowing.

    Overall, remember that similarly to lines, you can ghost to develop confidence before drawing them as many times as you need.

    Boxes

    Plotted Perspective

    The back vertical edge should be vertical/perpendicular to the Vanishing Point and not slanted, but I'll let it slide since it's normal for that part to not be exactly perfect.

    Rough Perspective

    While it may be hard to get it right (understandably, you may need to be bit careful), your boxes' width lines should be parallel to the horizon and height lines perpendicular to horizon, shown otherwise here. You can check if your dots are properly aligned.

    Rotated Boxes

    Try not to repeat your lines, you risk making your linework messy. No matter how off it is, keep the line as it if were correct and move on.

    At the same time, some of your boxes were not fully rotating, as they shared the same Vanishing Point with the previous box. See here. See this as a reference from the notes.

    Plotted Perspective

    Some of your boxes seemed to be converging in 3 Point Perspective, but others were parallel instead. Here's an image to show what I mean. Don't worry however, you'll get to practice drawing more 3 Point Perspective Boxes in the 250 Box Challenge.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to the 250 Box Challenge, you'll be able to practice drawing 3 Point Perspective Boxes as well as your ghosting. You can do any of the previous exercises as your initial warm-up.

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    1:17 PM, Sunday April 4th 2021

    Hello! Here's my critique of your work:

    Lines

    Superimposed Lines

    No problems with this, a majority of your lines did not fray the at the start (which was the intended goal), with the exception of just a few. It shows that you took the time to position your pen properly before ghosting/executing it.

    Ghosted Lines/Planes

    I noticed that many of your lines either were arching or had a wobble with them, more on the latter.

    Remember that confidence > accuracy, and that a smooth line is better than a wobbly one. Instead, your accuracy will improve over time, but you should focus on building up confidence to draw your lines first.

    Remember that you can rotate your page to draw your lines (to find a comfortable angle to draw with), and to use your shoulder pivot whenever necessary, which may fix the wobbles. Don't forget to plan/ghost your line as many times as you need to in order to, until you believe you can draw that stroke confidently.

    As of the arches, you can try to arch consciously to the opposite direction when drawing that said line, while also using your shoulder pivot to draw that said line as well.

    Ellipses

    Ellipses in Tables

    Try to keep the ellipses should be kept within the bounds of the box, as some appear to be flowing out of it. At the same time, try to not to have them overlap each other.

    Ellipses in planes

    Apart from just a few of your ellipses overflowing outside of the planes, most of your ellipses were kept within the bounds of the plane, while touching all sides of the plane (except for just a very small few). Pretty solid.

    Funnels

    Your ellipses, except for a few, fit exactly within the funnel without overflowing, which is good. Some of them (meaning, some did and some weren't) were being symmetrical/aligned enough to but cut in half by the minor axis (line in the middle). Still, seems solid.

    As a whole, just like lines, don't forget you can ghost your ellipses as many times you need before drawing it. On a positive note, I noticed that your ellipses slowly started "tightening up" more while drawing through your ellipses mentioned at the 2nd and 3rd part in this image, keep it up.

    Boxes

    Plotted Perspective

    No problems with it.

    Rough Perspective

    Feel free to ghost more to the Vanishing Point until you're more confident that your extended lines meant to go to there hit that point. That aside, I noticed that you repeated some lines. Just remember, no matter how off a line is, a try not to repeat it, keep the line as it if were correct and move on, because you'll risk making it messy.

    Rotated Boxes

    Your lines were actually quite clean here, but some of your boxes weren't rotating. See this image as a reference. And this image, where I've marked out an error from your work, as an example.

    Organic Perspective

    Besides some lines being repeated, the linework is rather clean. Though, I noticed that most of your lines were parallel instead of converging to one of three vanishing points. This photo will show what I mean by parallel instead of converging. Don't worry too much though, you'll get to draw more 3 Point Perspective Boxes in the 250 Box Challenge, which will definitely help you understand the concept. This website also includes an interactive demo of a box in 3 Point Perspective, which may help you.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to the 250 Box Challenge. There, you'll get used to drawing loads of 3 Point Perspective boxes, and work on your ghosting at the same time. You can practice any of these lessons as your initial warm-up.

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    10:27 AM, Saturday April 3rd 2021

    Hello! Here is my critique for your work. Unless I wasn't looking correct, it seems like Rotated Boxes weren't there? Unless you forgot to add it in. (Until then I'll go through the rest of the work regardless)

    Lines

    Superimposed Lines

    No problems with it, most of your lines only fray towards and the end and not the start (which is the intended goal).

    Ghosted Lines/Planes

    I found that most of your lines were arching in the opposite direction (hence not being straight). Remember to ghost your lines as many times as you need to confidently execute a stroke, because confidence > accuracy. Also, keep in mind that you can turn your page before drawing your line to get a comfortable angle before drawing it.

    Also, to prevent arching lines, you can always try to draw with your shoulder pivot, but if that still persists, you can try to arch consciously to the opposite direction.

    Ellipses

    Most of your ellipses did not appear equal (being that if you folded it into half, both sides would match). Besides that, try to have your "drawing through" of an ellipse close in a bit more better. You can look at the 2nd and 3rd section of this photo to see what I mean.

    Again, similar to lines, remember that you can ghost as many times as you need to develop a confident ellipse.

    Ellipses in Planes/Tables

    (Planes)

    Try to have your ellipses touch all four corners of a plane.

    (Tables)

    Try to keep each ellipse within the bounds of a box it's in, while not overlapping with another. I've also noticed some of your ellipses were not touching the top/bottom of the table snugly, but just "floating" instead, which isn't necessary. Again, you can plan and ghost your ellipses before executing them. Try to make use of the space as much as possible.

    (Funnels)

    As mentioned again, your ellipses drawn should be equal, to let the minor axis should (line in the middle) should be cut the ellipses in 2 symetrical halves. Try to have them fit snugly within the funnel, kept within its bounds, as some ellipses were flowing out of it, or only touched one of the sides.

    Boxes

    Plotted Perspective

    No problems with it, though you can do you hatching with a ruler. Not too big of a problem, though.

    Rough Perspective

    It seems like you made the mistake of plotting your drawn lines back to your Vanishing Point, as shown in the exercise's page. You're supposed to draw your depth lines to intersect to the horizon line, not directly to the Vanishing Point, as shown here.

    Remember that you're supposed to draw your boxes in 1 Point Perspective. Hence, each box has 4 points to converge with the Vanishing Point. Here's an example where there were 3 points instead of four. It also seemed that you were drawing 3 Point Perspective boxes here, instead of 1.

    Rotated Boxes

    Missing?

    Organic Perspective

    Most of your boxes were either parallel or diverging from one another instead of converging, which the latter is expected for 3 Point Perspective. Though, that's a perfectly fine error for now, you'll tackle it again in the 250 Box Challenge. Also, each angle of the initial Y should be over 90 degrees. Here's a demo of a 3D interactive box with vanishing points, with a pic of showing what converging/diverging/parallel means.

    Next Steps:

    I would recommend you to revisit the Plotted Perspective homework, since there were some noticeable errors within them. (Extensions going to VP, some boxes incorrectly drawn or not being one point perspective). After that, you can move on until the 250 Box Challenge, where you'll get to draw loads of 3 Point Perspective Boxes.

    (Feel free to reply to me once you've sent a photo of the Rotated Boxes challenge, since I couldn't find it unless it was there and I missed it.)

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    7:22 AM, Saturday April 3rd 2021

    Hi again! Before you move onto the 250 Box Challenge:

    Also, if I may, regarding your boxes in the Rotated Boxes and Organic Perspective, I found that some of your lines were diverging (moving away) or parallel from each other (instead of converging, coming close to each other to a particular vanishing point) You can see this picture for what I mean.

    This website may give you an idea of what a box in 3D space looks like, you can play around with it to get an idea of what converges look like with 3 Point Perspective (which you'll be drawing with as your boxes).

    Also, remember that when drawing 3 Point Perspective, the initial Y angle should be over 90 degrees.

    I would also suggest redoing the Rotated Boxes homework some time, since you skipped some boxes, but you can do it after the Challenge.

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    9:55 AM, Friday April 2nd 2021

    Hi! Here's my critique of your work.

    Lines

    Superimposed Lines

    No problems with it, most of your lines only frayed towards the end (and not the start), which is the intended goal. Except for just two of them, though they're just minor errors since you seemed to get the hang of it otherwise.

    Page 1

    Page 2

    Overall, it's pretty solid for the most part.

    Ghosted Lines/Planes

    Remember that you should always prioritize confidence over accuracy when executing/ghosting your lines (even if it overshoots), because it's better to have a smooth line than a wobbly/bent one in many cases.

    Here from the Ghosted Lines, I've circled some lines with quite a noticeable wobble in them.

    Here from the Ghosted Planes, I've circled some lines with an arch in them. Try to use your shoulder pivot to draw your lines, but if it still persists, you can try to draw that arching line consciously to the opposite direction.

    Ellipses

    For your ellipses as a whole, I found that most of them were a bit messy. See here. Your ellipses' lines should be "tightening" in on each other, as well as being even. (meaning that, for example, if you folded your ellipse in half, both sides would look the same) See the bottom part.

    Your ellipses should be bound within their respective boxes/tables and not going out of them. For the planes, your ellipses should try to be fitting on all four corners. This one's almost fine as an example, but these two did not hit all of the corners.

    For the ellipse table, each ellipse should be touching one another, without overlapping, shown here.

    They should also be kept within the bounds, like mentioned before, shown here. I've also made another example to remember to have your ellipse touch together (there's a space inbetween the 2nd and 3rd ellipse)

    Similarly to lines, remember to draw your ellipses confidently, (confidence and smoothness, over accuracy).

    As for your ellipses in funnels, the minor axis (line in the middle) should be cutting all ellipses into two symmetrical halves. Besides that, try to have them fit within the ellipse without going out of it, or overlapping. See here.

    Boxes

    Organic Perspective

    No problems with it.

    Rough Perspective

    Since some of your pependicular lines missed the vanishing point, just remember that you can ghost as many times as you need when planning your dots out.

    Rotated Boxes/Organic Perspective

    For Rotated Boxes, I'm not sure why the upper left part was missing a box, compared to this, but I'll assume it was just a minor oversight, just remember to include it if you plan on doing the Rotated Boxes again as a warmup.

    There are some errors while drawing the rotated boxes in 3 Point Perpective from the Rotated Boxes and Organic Perspective, but it's fine, you'll be moving on to the 250 Box Challenge soon which will help you get used to that concept.

    Next Steps:

    As mentioned just before the end, move on to the 250 Box Challenge, you can work on your ellipses (or any of the other previous challenges) as part of your warm up. For ghosting, you'll be able to practice more of it during that challenge as well since you'll have to draw those boxes without a ruler.

    All the best! If you need clarification, feel free to tell me, this is my first time doing such critiques.

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