Weenie

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    1:57 PM, Friday August 14th 2020

    First off, for the sake of the ppl reviewing, please make an effort to center your photos on the page.

    your ghosted lines actually look pretty nice! It shows a lot of potential and I only see a few curves here and there in the ghosted lines and planes. If you need practice with straightening or countering a natural tendency to curve, try this exercise. https://imgur.com/gallery/zdkHsmt

    Basically superimpose a curve that is concave downwards. Then (without rotating your page) superimpose a curve concave upwards using the same endpoints. Then superimpose a straight line using the arc endpoints. The point of this is to allow yourself to exaggerate the natural tendency to curve, then get a feel for countering that tendency. Ideally, you'll be able to dial in between the tendency to curve and the counter curve to get a straight line.

    Also, when you superimpose your lines, i recommend trying to not fray if you can. Based on your ghosted lines, I don't think you should be fraying quite as heavily as you are. Bring the mindfulness of ghosting into superimposing to get a more efficient warmup.

    As for the corners of the rotated box, I think you need to think a little bit more about how the edges of the boxes converge. the boxes along the axis have 2 vanishing points, but the ones in the corners get really tricky because they actually have 3 vanishing points.

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    10:00 AM, Friday August 14th 2020

    Hi Bizarremeat.

    Your linework is beautiful. It's confident and accurate, and you are capable of executing straight lines and curves very well. That being said, I feel like you could play around more with line weight.

    Your weakest point is perspective. It looked like you were getting confused during the rotated boxes exercise. It looks like part of the confusing was coming from mixing up the face with the interior of the boxes. Something that might help is keeping in mind that the boxes along the axis are all in 2 point perspective. The ones along the horizontal axis will all have straight vertical lines, but the horizontal lines will converge. Another thing to keep in mind is that the vanishing points will shift from box to box. Ill link a diagram to show what I mean. The boxes in the quadrants follow 3 point perspective. It looked like you had the most trouble with the diagonal boxes on the outer edges. for these, you have to base the perspective and angle for them on the surrounding boxes.

    general rules: the farther a point is from the horizon or axis, the steeper the angle will be.

    If you have any questions feel free to hit me up in the discord

    https://imgur.com/gallery/VdK5BvA

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    9:33 AM, Friday August 14th 2020

    Hi Hottoku,

    In the same way we draw circles/ellipses within boxes in order to have a concrete target/goal, I feel that we should have concrete target/goal for our superimposed lines. I believe that working through a page, or just 10 minutes of superimposed lines is a great warmup before a drawing session. I think you should aim to combine ghosting and superimposing for direct lines. It's cool that you're playing around with wavy lines, but tight squiggles are an added challenge that at your current skill level is unnecessary and diluting the spirit of the exercise. IMO the purpose of superimposing isnt just to build confidence, but to also develop muscle memory for straight lines and curves, and the awareness to correct your page or posture to better execute your lines. Ghosting will only help with the confidence and muscle memory, but only if you are being aware of how you are ghosting, and how your arm feels as you are making a mark. Personally, I find the motion of pushing out at a 45 degree angle to be the most natural and comfortable to straight lines, and as long as I am able to rotate myself or my page in such a way, I can consistently execute a straight line with minimal fraying.

    As you continue on, remember its okay to fray, but work on minimizing fraying. When your line goes off course, take a second to adjust yourself or your paper so that hopefully, the next line is not off course. It may help to have a line path which you will continue to make the same way, but purposely rotate your page in between each line (while starting at the same starting place) so that you get a better sense of what a natural straight line path feels like for you and the best angle for you to achieve it.

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    9:11 AM, Friday August 14th 2020

    I find the textures challenge helps a lot for this, as does a stronger sense of line weight.

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    9:08 AM, Friday August 14th 2020

    Hi Professor Buttcheeks,

    I think you should play with line weight more in your plotted perspective boxes. I noticed that you didnt draw through some boxes, usually when they were overlapping with other boxes. It might help to try an exercise in which you practice line weight, from the lightest mark you can make, to a regular darkness/amount of pressure, then the darkest, which would probably be regular pressure but drawn twice. I would use the lightest for anything internal and structural, the regular for edges that we would be able to see, and the dark for overlapping objects to indicate what is in front.

    For your rough perspective boxes-you should be using the red lines to trace where your perspective actually lands, not to show what it would look like if it landed on the vanishing point. The vanishing point is more like a reference so you arent just randomly guessing how your boxes converge. I did see that some of these exercises did trace the estimated vanishing point.

    The main issue that im seeing is a lack of familiarity with line making. I recommend that you continue the line exercises as warmups, but combine the ghosting and superimposed lines. I'm seeing a lot of arched lines, and sometimes a sharp angle where your brain took over and piloted the pen towards the goal. Something that helps with arched lines is to do your superimposed/ghosting exercises like this:

    sketch a parabola, concave downwards. superimpose, but ghost as you do so. We are aiming for accuracy and confidence. Then repeat with another parabola, concave upwards, with the same endpoints as the initial arc, and roughly the same curvature. Then repeat with a straight line across the endpoints of your parabolas. This should help you develop a sense of how you arch your lines, and help you straighten them out better. Another exercise is to do a straight line, and then a sine curve along that straight line.

    I'll attach a photo to show what i mean.https://imgur.com/gallery/iZKbtp5

    https://imgur.com/gallery/zdkHsmt

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