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    4:55 PM, Monday July 26th 2021

    Oh wow i can tell the diffrence in the care especially with the smaller boxes, thank you very much for the revision.

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    1:17 PM, Sunday July 25th 2021

    Oh wow, i've never seen such a detailed review, it's kinda of an eye opener for what to do when it comes to critiquing, thank you very much.

    12:11 AM, Friday July 23rd 2021

    Sorry consulting with other people from the drawabox server, i was a bit too harsh on needing the revision and so you are ready to move on.

    (here https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes)

    If you are interested here is a video on it https://youtu.be/mteUPdCHn4s.

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    10:15 PM, Thursday July 22nd 2021

    Hi there.

    Congratulations on finishing the first lesson.

    Starting from the superimposed and ghosted lines they both seem to be arcing, but apart from that I think the exercises were well done, there’s 2-3 lines in the ghosted lines that do slightly wobble, but they seem to be the exception rather than the rule.

    You could try arcing the other way to compensate for it since it seems pretty constant in the arcing.

    In the ghosted planes i can see difficulty in the smaller lines when drawing from the shoulder, i think that’s normal, but there is a lot more arcing and wobbling from before, which i think means you didn’t draw these as confidently has before, on the positive side i don’t see a tendency to over or undershoot.

    You can take your time with each line and purely focus on it, ignoring everything else but the 2 points you put down on the page and drawing the exact same way you did the ghosted lines.

    On the table of ellipses the exercise was done mostly correctly and the overall shape is good but you seem to have a tendency to have it not touch the bottom or sometimes the top. In this one the objective was to get the ellipse to touch all 4 sides.

    If you have trouble adjusting your ellipses to touch the bottom of the page you could start from there and now all you have to do is try and make it reach the top since your side to side touching seems to be doing fine.

    On ellipses on ghosted planes I think you did it well, and I can't see an overall tendency. There are some that are bigger, there are some that are smaller, so I think it’s about just practicing to get better at doing them.

    On the funnels I again see a tendency to not touch the bottom or top of the funnel but apart from that, well done, a lot of people lose confidence on their lines in these. Although some don’t present the same amount of inclination.

    It might be a good idea to include these in your warm up routines.

    I don’t think there’s much since it was well done and you even added the line weight and shaded side.

    In the Rough perspective the extensions correctly were only extended up to the horizon, apart from that, some lines are still drawn with confidence but others are wobbly, there is a very big mistake being made in which you are drawing in the same line multiple times.

    It's very important in draw a box to never draw over a line again if it’s not asked from the exercise, since it makes it harder to evaluate the work and the entire purpose of drawing with ink is that every line you put down is final, and so you should be preparing, thinking and ghosting every single one. The extensions themselves seem to have a common tendency of the farther ones go less and less towards the vanishing point.

    Please do keep in mind to not reinstate a line when it’s not asked of the exercise.

    In the rotated boxes exercise i’m seeing a lot of wobbling and scratching on the boxes themselves, whether that means you didn’t draw with enough confidence and reinstated them or that you tried to rush and didn’t take your time only you know, tough looking at the 3 corner boxes not having their back parts draws, it makes me think it’s a bit of both. On the more nitpicky side the middle box should have been bigger than the other boxes you positioned at the start like this(https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/17/step3)

    In draw a box it’s very important to take your time with every single box and look at them individually and make sure you didn’t miss anything, if you are feeling tired it’s important to take breaks, since it lets you absorb the content better.

    In organic perspective on the second page you didn’t exareate the perspective has much has you did with the first one, like shown in this example it’s important to make the last few really big, to try and convey a sense of scale(https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/18/example) . I can still also see problems with wobbling and some boxes at the back with restated lines.

    I think by the end you might have rushed it a bit since I can see a lot more variations at the start in comparison to the end. If you are feeling this way or if you are feeling tired, or that you might not be focused it’s very important to take a break or stop for the day. I can see a lot more cohesiveness from the earlier exercises.

    I would really like to see another page of boxes in organic perspective, in which this time you try to ghost every line before putting it down with confidence.

    Have a good day.

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    2:24 PM, Wednesday July 21st 2021

    Hi there.

    Congratulations on finishing the first lesson.

    So starting from the superimposed lines. The exercise seems to have been followed correctly, there is a tendency to arc so you might not be using your shoulder enough, and I can see 2 of the sets where you tried to draw in the opposite direction.

    The tip for stop arcing is to try and arc the other way to compensate for it. Over time it will become more natural to do so. Also I would refrain from trying weird directions of drawing since it is recommended that you find one specific direction you find comfortable and stick with it.

    On ghosted lines i can see the arcing but can also see you did these wich confidence which is good, except for 3 lines which are a bit wobbly, i can’t see a tendency to under or overshoot, only that the aim more often than not goes a bit below the dot, though i think that will get better with time.

    In the ghosted planes, again these were done with what I think was confidence, but apart from what was already told, some of the smaller lines are really wobbly, and also a tendency on some of these where the ending of the line seems to be bent.

    As a warmup you could try to include some of these smaller ghosted lines or do small planes to get more accustomed, and if you have trouble in stopping you could try and lift the pen instead of stopping the pen at the dot.

    The table of ellipses I can see that in some of these ellipses, only 1 to 1.5 turns were done instead of the required 2 full turns, though I don't think revisions are required since I think this is enough to tell. The most common deformation seems to be a slight tendency to to make a bump on the top left side of the ellipse when it’s tilted to the right, and they are too sharp when they turn to the left they get really sharp, especially the bigger ones. I do think you kept in mind to have the ellipses touch 4 sides but on middle sized ellipses there is a tendency to not touch the ground sometimes.

    On the ellipses on ghosted planes most seem to be smaller or narrower than they should have been and don’t touch the 4 sides of the box. Apart from that I can't see any other problems, since though some have slight deformations, they seem to have been executed with confidence.

    In the funnels the smaller ones seem to be really deformed, i think this might be due to not being used to draw the smaller ellipses from the shoulder, the middle ones also seem to be the most deformed out of most of them. I think on some but not all of them there was a loss of confidence in drawing them which led to being a lot more wobbly.

    I think any of these 3 ellipses exercises should be part of your warmup routine, especially the smaller and medium ellipses.

    The plotted perspective seems to be mostly well done. I think the last one of the set was a bit rushed since there are many inconsistencies since there are some random lines over shooting and the last one isn’t shaded. Also adding line weight to the boxes. Like shown here would be really useful (https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/15/step7)

    Remember to take your time with these exercises and take a break if you need to, and feel like you are losing focus, since you might not learn as much if you try to rush.

    In the rough perspective there is a sharp drop in the confidence of the lines, I think that these were drawn a lot slower and tried to be accurate instead, but ended up really wobbly. Apart from that, the line extensions don’t seem to be touching the horizon line has instructed here(https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/16/step6)

    Even on more technical exercises where you need to think more about the 3d object that you are drawing you can’t stop ghosting your lines and stop drawing them without confidence.Draw A Box prioritizes confidence over accuracy.

    The rotated boxes look very well executed which tells me that you have a good sense of 3d space but it looks rushed since there are some missing lines on like 7 of the boxes which tells me you didn’t take your time to look carefully at each box. Also the middle boxes of each of the sides seem to dip below the other ones.

    By rushing you might be losing important realizations that you might have made otherwise, so with a box I would really take your time to do these when you are 100% into the exercise and either rushed or distracted.

    On the organic perspect the boxes' lines seem to be reinstated, it’s important to never repeat a line you put down if the exercise does not demand it, since 1 it’s harder to tell what went wrong, 2 makes it look scratchy. And most of them seem to have been made from where another line ended in the middle of the box.

    Remember every line is final, that is why you take your time ghosting the line carefully before putting it down. Or else we would be using a pencil to correct our mistakes.(on the 250 boxes challenges you do pass over 2 times, but those you have to do the entire line in a single stroke each time)

    I do think it was overall well done, and so I think you are ready to move to the next challenge, but I would keep in mind to take your time and to think carefully, have you place every line, then execute it to the best of your ability, with confidence. For homework I would take ghosted planes with ellipses and rough perspective.

    (here https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes)

    If you are interested here is a video on it https://youtu.be/mteUPdCHn4s.

    Have a good day.

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    Move on to the 250 boxes

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    11:35 PM, Tuesday July 20th 2021

    Hi there.

    Congratulations on finishing the first lesson.

    So starting from superimposed lines, the lines are well done, though on the curved ones there seems to be a lack of confidence and to have sacrificed some of it for accuracy has even though some lines start and end at the same place the middle is slightly wobbling. Though this is more of a nitpick.

    Usually drawing faster helps since it doesn't let you have time to doubt yourself.

    On the ghosted lines exercise, there is a tendency to overshoot and I think even though the lines are arching, that you have been using your shoulder since it’s curving inwards, and that it’s just overcompensation to keep it from arching to the other side.

    Lifting your pen right at the end can help you with overshooting and. For the curving since you are already trying to compensate for it by curving it, I think it’s just a matter of practice which you will get over time.

    In the ghosted planes i can see that the overshooting and arching is happening, but that some lines are wobbling which demonstrate lack of confidence at least in comparison to the superimposed lines exercise, it’s also important to not repeat a line once put down, where i can see in some of the boxes that there are 2 parallel lines. One small nitpick is that one of the boxes are incomplete and does not have a cross,

    In drawabox confidence in the line is valued much more above accuracy, so even in more constructive exercises, it should still be your number one priority.

    The tables of ellipses are well done overall, but some of them seem to have been circled more than the 2 times indicated by the exercise. Has a small nitpick it seems most of seem to touch the top but not the bottom, thought the second circle seems to touch the bottom more consistently,

    I think that they would improve if you took more time ghosting the lines and feeling out the ellipses before putting them down.

    On the ghosted planes exercise, it was stated to reuse the ghosted planes exercise for this one. Though aside from that I see no consistent mistakes being made, more so that some individual ones have some slight problems like deformation, though I think that is caused by inconsistency, which will get better with time, rather than anything noteworthy to point out.

    In the funnels exercise they seem to be very well executed if not for some of them being passed more than 2 times, and there is a small problem with the funnels coming from the straight lines on the top left of the page though, that is more of the middle line being placed incorrectly.

    Please do keep to only 2 passes with the ellipses since yes it will make the mistakes easier to spot, but that’s kinda the point.

    The plotted perspective looks like it was well executed but could be made better by shading one of the front sides and by adding some extra line weight to the boxes. Like shown here(https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/15/step7)

    In rough perspective on the technical side, the frame doesn't seem to have been drawn has required here(https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/16/step1), and most of the line extensions don’t seem to be touching the horizon line has instructed here(https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/16/step6) . On the execution side, it seems to suffer from lack of confidence just like the ghosted planes exercise, though I think these lines were drawn a lot slower than the ones in that exercise since the problem with overshooting seems to mostly have gone away. The accuracy of where the lines ended in the horizon seems good and getting closer to that dot is a matter of practice.

    In the rotated boxes the overall estimations and execution seem to be good but the middle box should have been bigger than the sides ones has shown here(https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/0fa240d2.jpg) , though there are repeat problems from previous exercise, arching seems to also be more apparent, there also seems to be the problem with repeated lines, all this combined makes me think that you might have tried to do it all in one go but slightly lost focus towards the end.

    If you ever feel tired or losing focus, you can pause at any time during the lessons and challenges and try to tackle them later. It’s always more worth it to take your time and learn the lesson rather than rushing it and not having learned it at all.

    On the organic perspective even if some are still wobbly you seem to be drawing them more confidently which did lead to more overshooting but that’s normal.

    Overall a very good job, I think that in your warm up routines you should focus more on the ones like rough perspective to gain and try to be as confident as you can even when doing things that make you think twice about where you are placing your lines, Your ellipses seem to be doing very good though it’s a bad habit for drawabox to draw over 2 times.

    I think you are ready to move on to 250 boxes though.

    (here https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes)

    If you are interested here is a video on it https://youtu.be/mteUPdCHn4s.

    Have a good day.

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    Move on to 250 boxes challenge

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    9:24 PM, Tuesday July 20th 2021

    Sorry, one thing i forgot to mention is to keep doing warmups with exercises from lesson one from here on out has you do the 250 boxes challenge.

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    7:13 PM, Monday July 19th 2021

    Hi there.

    Congratulations on finishing the first lesson.

    So starting from the superimposed lines, the lines are well done, but on the superimposed lines page 2 from the 7th line till the 11th line there seems to be fraying from both sides. If you feel like you want to rush, taking a break or doing the 50% rule should help with it.

    On the ghosted lines, they look good, a very slight nitpick would be trying to make some longer ghosted lines since most of them seem to be around half of the side of the short side of the page.

    In ghosted planes, there seems to be a slight loss of confidence as there are some lines that seem to wobble, for example the diagonal line right below ghosted planes, but are still very accurate.

    The ellipses seem to most often not touch one of the sides, so maybe compensating by overshooting a little bit might help, as the objective was to have the ellipses touch 4 sides at once(has shown in here https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/a3c1dd5f.jpg). There are also some ellipses that seem to be bent so as not to touch the sides.

    On the ellipses in planes, it seems you have a tendency to go for narrower ellipses even in boxes which would have a rounder one, there are also some that seem to lack confidence and are a bit misshapen.

    The funnels look very well executed but on 2 of them it seems the ellipses are not centered to the axis line.

    The plotted perspective seems to be well executed, another nitpick would be adding a bit of line weight into the boxes to make them more visible.

    On the rough perspective your line extensions seem to go over the horizon line, the most visible difference seems to be the less confidence from your previous lines, which are now starting to arch and wobble a lot more. Do remember that ghosting is almost always required.

    In the rotated boxes exercise it seems that the boxes that were supposed to serve as visual reference for the range of rotation are not present which most likely resulted in the narrow boxes, and non symmetrical shape (https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/0fa240d2.jpg). The main points of the exercise like rotating the boxes, consistent gaps and drawing thru boxes are done correctly though.

    Both on the last exercise and on this one(organic perspective), there are a lot more wobbly or arching lines in this one. To prevent yourself from doing this consider drawing faster, has it leaves less time for your brain to try and course correct.

    Overall a very good job, but the last few seem to either have been rushed or a simple lack of confidence has the exercises mounted, drawabox values confidence in the lines the most so if accuracy needs to suffer for more confident lines, then you should do so. I think you are ready to move on to the boxes.

    (here https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes)

    If you are interested here is a video on it https://youtu.be/mteUPdCHn4s.

    Have a good day.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to the 250 box challenge

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    2:23 AM, Monday July 19th 2021

    Uh, that's neat to know, thank you.

    2:11 PM, Monday July 12th 2021

    Thank you, i will keep try to focus more on if the construction of the boxes themselfs on the 250 box challenge, right now burnout is the opposite of what i am feeling cause last 3 months i couldn't really draw cause of school, but i'll keep in mind to take breaks.

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