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Hey there,

I'll post my initial critique to your submission below and elaborate on it:

• Many of your boxes have parallel or even diverging lines, try choosing a vanishing point that is closer to the box or even somewhere on the page, that makes it easier to actually get your lines to converge properly.

• You should be taking more time constructing your boxes, most of them seem rushed. You extended some of your lines in the wrong direction and crossed them afterwards, don't do that. If a line went wrong so be it, do not redraw or cross over lines.

• Your hatching is kinda messy, take your time and ghost straight lines from one edge to the other side of the plane, at some boxes you even scribbled a messy line across the plane. Hatching is optional and makes your boxes read better, so if you decide to hatch a plane, do it tidy and take your time. I recommend always hatching the plane that covers the inner corner, that makes your perspective read better

• Do only hatch in one direction, do not cross over your hatching in multiple directions

• I see some degree of wobble in your lines, so take your time to properly ghost and plan your lines, only then do a confident stroke from you shoulder, that is even more important to getting the lines right (confidence > accuracy)

• Your did a good job of identifying mistakes yourself, gave each box it's proper space and used multiple colored pencils for the different directions, good job!

Overall the most important things you should be working on is that in almost every single box of yours there is at least one side of lines that is parallel or diverging instead of converging. Try following this step by step guide to improve upon that: https://imgur.com/3zoQA65

Also your hatching is very messy, so if you are deciding to do hatching, try being more tidy doing it in the future.

I think if you draw some boxes from time to time as warm up and keep those points in mind, you will definitely see improvement!

Hey there, I'll try to give you some feedback on your boxes:

• Your hatching looks clean, nice accuracy on that

• Overall you boxes appear to be very small, you could try to draw bigger boxes, so they take more space on the page

• most of your lines appear to be parallel or even diverging, drawing bigger boxes and choosing vanishing points closer to your boxes, maybe even somewhere on the page can help with that

• the extended lines to you did to check your lines are a little bit hard to see, doing stronger marks on those would make seeing where you went wrong easier

• choosing points where two edges meet with a dot and then ghosting both to see if they are right could help you along way. Course correcting and moving the final dot for your ghosted line slighty before actually drawing it can improve your boxes and perspective. Here is an example of the method https://imgur.com/3zoQA65

• Your lines are fairly straight, but there is some degree of wobble, try plottingg your lines with dots and ghosting your lines from your shoulder

• I always recommend hatching in the planes that covers the inner corner to make your boxes' perspective read better

Hello there, I'll try give you some feedback on your boxes:

Actually there is not much to say about your boxes, most of them look very clean, sharp and well constructed! Great job!

• Sometime your hatching looked a bit messy, so you could invest some more time to make your hatching as clean as the rest of your boxes

• Also I always recommend hatching the plane that is covering the inner corner, that makes your boxes' perspective read even better and gives them a more consistent look

• You used differently colored pencils for extending your lines, which is nice!

• Most of your boxes are converging really nicely and are not foreshortened too extreme nor have parallel lines

Overall you boxes look great, even the first ones, but you got more clean in the process of doing all of them, so now they look nice and believable!

Hello there, I'll try to give you some advice on your boxes:

Things you did well:

• Your lines appear to be fairly straight, almost no wobble to be seen, good job!

• You applied line weight to the sillhoute of your boxes

• Your hatching looks tidy and most of the time you hatched the plane that covers the inner corner which helps make the box'es perspective read better

• You experimented with some extreme foreshortening, which is always good to do in order to see what happens, but improved yourself after that and chose more reasonable vanishing points

What you can work on:

• Many of your lines are parallel or even diverging instead of actually converging. It appears you either chose vanishing points that are so far away that the lines appear parallel or you chose the vanishing point to be super close, so the box appears very distorted. Some boxes have a very reasonable degree of foreshortening :)

• Remember that the degrees in the initial Y should always be >90° so the boxes appear more reasonable

Overall I can see lots of improvement in your drawing boxes skill, specially the last 50 or so are really well done and way better than the first ones! Your boxes look clean and you put the right amount of time constructing each box and checking your lines for convergence with different colored pencils.

I would not worry too much about your concern that the back plane is bigger than the front plane, most of the time it just appears that way and isn't even actually true if you look closer.

There are missing pages

Hello there, I'll try to give you some review of your 250 Box Challenge.

What you did well:

• Most of your boxes look believable and it appears that you understand the basic concepts of perspective

• You hatched planes that are on the front

• Your lines appear to be fairly straight, good job!

• You did not redraw lines that went wrong

Things you can work on:

-Many of your boxes have parallel lines and sometime even diverging lines (https://imgur.com/mWLlnYl). Try to make them converge closer, so pick vanishing points that are on the page itself, that makes the boxes more foreshortened and therefore also easier to ghost your lines towards that point. I did not see a lot of extreme foreshortening, so it might be helpful to at least try to experiment and see what happens as you move the VPs closer to the boxes.

• In most of your boxes one of the lines from the initial Y is perfectly vertical, so try to get some more variance in the orientation of the Y to make more interesting boxes (the process remains the same)

• You should take more time doing tidy hatchings, your lines should always start at the edge of one plane and ideally not fall short of the plane. Your hatching lines are falling short on both ends, as if floating somewhere inside the plane. Start at one edge and pull through the plane so it touches the other edge. Don't be afraid to overshoot, as that is still better then undershooting

• It seems you picked the planes which you hatched randomly, that's totally fine, but some boxes are harder to read than others because of that. I always advice to hatch in the plane that covers the inner corner (that is also the biggest most of the time, although not always, depending in the shape of the box) so there is no confusion which plane is in front of the other

• You could advance your correction lines a bit further so it get's more clear if and where they actually converge. As mentioned before, some of your boxes have parallel ones or even diverging ones, at least it looks like that, it's hard to tell if there is convergence if it only converges slightly and the correction lines are short.

Overall I can see improvement in your boxes as you did this challenge and your boxes appear believable.

Hello there,

I will try to give you some advice on your boxes:

• Many of your boxes have parallel or even diverging lines, try choosing a vanishing point that is closer to the box or even somewhere on the page, that makes it easier to actually get your lines to converge properly.

• You should be taking more time constructing your boxes, most of them seem rushed. You extended some of your lines in the wrong direction and crossed them afterwards, don't do that. If a line went wrong so be it, do not redraw or cross over lines.

• Your hatching is kinda messy, take your time and ghost straight lines from one edge to the other side of the plane, at some boxes you even scribbled a messy line across the plane. Hatching is optional and makes your boxes read better, so if you decide to hatch a plane, do it tidy and take your time. I recommend always hatching the plane that covers the inner corner, that makes your perspective read better

• Do only hatch in one direction, do not cross over your hatching in multiple directions

• I see some degree of wobble in your lines, so take your time to properly ghost and plan your lines, only then do a confident stroke from you shoulder, that is even more important to getting the lines right (confidence > accuracy)

• Your did a good job of identifying mistakes yourself, gave each box it's proper space and used multiple colored pencils for the different directions, good job!

However there are missing many pages.

*edit: sorry at first I accidently posted a revision of another person's submission to your profile, however I updated the review, but cannot undo the next steps part, so just ignore that

Alright then, you still got to do at least one page of organic perspective, as I mentioned above, in order to complete your submission

At the end i was actually going to say:

Confidence >> Accuracy :D

Hey Raven, I will do my best to give you some advice!

1. Lines:

• Your superimposed lines look fine mostly, tho longer ones have a bit of wobble to them, so try to power through with your shoulder. Do not look at the line while drawing but focus on the point where you are aiming for

• No fraying on the start of your lines and also very few fraying on the end, which is a good thing!

• On some of the longer lines I can see some arcing, which tells us that you are probably using your elbow, but your shoulder falls a bit short. Try using your shoulder and don't rest your elbow on the table (you can rest it on the table to stabilize, but don't put your weight on it, so it can move as needed)

• Your lines are also very accurate, but it's better to focus on smooth and straight lines, even if they are off, instead of being super accurate but drawing wobbly lines. It's not much wobbling, but I feel like you could sacrifice some accuracy in order to get them even more straight -> accuracy will come by itself as you draw more

2. Ellipses:

• It feels like you are stretching/distorting your ellipses to fit them in the boundaries you have set yourself. Try to ghost a perfect ellipse that can be symmetrically be cut in half that also hit's the boundaries and try make it as smooth as possible

• Good job on doing 2-3 passes on your ellipses, that gives you room for course correction if you don't hit the boundaries on your first pass

• Your ellipses do tend to fall short of your boundaries. Try not to be afraid to overshoot and actually cross your boundaries, you can still course correct on the second and third pass.

• Overall you ellipses seem smooth and your degrees seem consistent through the table of ellipses exercise!

• You can always fit some smaller ellipses of the same degree in the gaps between the greater ones, that is great exercise to practice big and small ellipses at the same time, while keeping the degree the same

• The funnels exercise looks good. You did a good job dividing the funnels into halves and your ellipses get cut into halves, so good job on keeping them symmetrical! Your orientation of your ellipses follow the axis nicely

3. Boxes:

• Plotted perspective looks good, but make sure that you fully track down the perspective lines back to the horizon line, so you can actually see that they diverge there

• Also putting some cross hatching on the biggest surface (or the surface that covers the edge at the back where the back planes meet) can help making your boxes read better. As you are drawing through your boxes this helps the viewer to understand better what's going on.

• For the rough perspective you did a good job using the "correct line method" by tracing your original lines back to the horizon line to see where you went wrong

• You actually were pretty accurate with your perspective on the rough perspective as well! Nicely done.

• However, your lines in this exercise appear to be insanely straight. Did you do those with a ruler? In that case I would advise that you redo this exercise, as you should be doing those in free hand. If you did it free hand you really pulled it off nicely, the smoothest lines in rough perspective I've seen so far. It looks like you drew your boxes and added line weight by drawing over them with a ruler. Don't do that. If you apply line weight you want to ghost over your originally drawn lines (like in the superimposed lines but with ghosting)

• Your rotated boxes have some boxes that are barely rotating. Try being more bolt and push your rotations way more (https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/d73eea49.jpg)

• You kept your edges close together, which is a good thing.

• Overall you did quite well, as this exercise is really hard to wrap your head around

• For the organic perspective you did not do the required amount of pages. You are meant to do 3 frames of organic perspective per page, but you did it across the whole page, so you need to do some more of those

• Your boxes look fairly clean, but try varying with your size. Make near boxes really big and further away really small. Add some overlaps of boxes, to give the impression of depth and apply some line weight to the areas of the overlapping lines (not the whole line though)

Overall your submission looks good, your lines are mostly confident and also very accurate. Try focusing more on Confidence instead of accuracy, this will come by itself with time and practice.

You got to do some more pages, though.

Apart from that you did a great job!

Also: consider joining the discord, it's always better to share your experiences and talk to people instead of working in a vacuum :)

Hope to hear from you in discord

Henni