Skeik

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skeik's Sketchbook

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    9:36 PM, Wednesday September 15th 2021

    Your boxes are pretty good, and feel believable. I definitely see improvement in the perspective from the first batch to the last batch.

    A great many of your boxes have a common problem though where the two edges on the same plane of the box converge, but they do not converge with edges of the planes on the other side. Take a look at this imgur album showing boxes 84, 241, 203.

    https://imgur.com/a/xt39umK

    In 84, the 2 blue lines comprising the top plane converge, and ditto for the bottom of the box, but they do not all meet.

    In 241 and 203, same thing with the blue lines.

    Your problem, as I see it, is that you're not considering the box as a whole and instead drawing each plane one at a time. Because your convergence is alright when considering one plane but it's the other 2 that give you trouble. Just slow down a bit maybe, and try ghosting the lines more to ensure both sides of the box are converging.

    Aside from that there's not too much variety here. Almost all your boxes are like 2/3rds profile view. Try more weird positions and angles. There are many times when you'll see a box and only be able to see two faces if it splits the horizon, or it's near the center of the camera. Like a fridge, a refridgerator is a box but if it's taller than you, you will never see more than 2 faces of it at once. Try drawing that and seeing if you can get the perspective right. Try to think of practical uses of a box for drawing. How would a skyscraper look if you represented it as a box? Or a train, your fridge, or your keyboard in front of you? You could also try taking a box you've drawn and rotating it along an axis just slightly, to force yourself out of your current comfort zone.

    As you draw more from reference you will naturally learn about these situations though.

    Final thing, your line quality is definitely improving but you also have a tendency to pet your lines and overshoot your mark. Just keep working at it and it'll get better. My advice is always just to slow down and get into a nice rhythm. Draw a line like you would pet an animal, nice, long, slow movements.

    Your boxes definitely got more consistent as you progressed though. I feel like you understand the source material so I'm gonna say you can advance, but I would recommend drawing more boxes in weirder positions like I mentioned above.

    Next Steps:

    Draw more boxes, or better yet, draw real objects from reference that are boxy . Get a better feel for the different ways a box can be rotated and positioned in 3d space.

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    3:13 PM, Monday August 9th 2021

    Hey I think you're headed in the right direction but you're very outline/contour focused. You've drawn a straight outline of every form on the kitty. Like on the left side of the cat, which is in light, you drew a straight outline and little spikes to show the texture of the hair. Instead, try to consider each tuft of fur and design your outline from the get go to portray texture.

    When drawing texture, the most important thing is the outline/contour of the forms. Consider Uncomfortable's example here: https://drawabox.com/lesson/5/1/fur The outline of your cat should be carefully considered tufts of hair, not scratchy lines. This helps you out because drawing tufts is a lot quicker than drawing little lines as you have.

    With texture, less is more. You should challenge yourself to use fewer marks to convey texture. I see you've already done lesson two and your sausage textures show you're building understanding but many of them have the same problem: https://i.imgur.com/mvxQWL9.jpeg Like the bear fur on this page, you've overloaded the sausage with so many marks to show the texture of the fur that the fur is lost. It's super busy to look at and I bet it took forever to draw. Uncomfortable demonstrates that you don't need to use so much.

    Last thing, and it's a problem for me too, but draw bigger! Draw as big as you can make yourself do it. Drawing little is less intimidating, but pen and ink techniques like hatching are much easier to control the bigger you draw. It will really help you figure out your proportional issues. Maybe even get a newsprint pad like 18x24, they are cheap af.

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    9:25 PM, Wednesday May 27th 2020

    Good job getting through the homework. Your drawings are starting to feel solid, but there are some fundamental problems you can fix that can push the believability of your drawing further.

    On your Organic Intersections, the biggest issue I see is that you're not keeping your forms simple. https://drawabox.com/lesson/2/9/complicated Your sausages should be simple, ideally with one curve. Longer, complicated forms are very difficult to keep consistent and you break the illusion of 3d.

    You also seem to be having trouble with your line weights and cast shadows. When applying line weight, remember to use only one, continuous, overlaid stroke. You should ghost your stroke the same as if you were drawing anything else. You may miss your mark, but I promise that overlapping and off lines are better than "petting" your lines. For the cast shadows, I thought it would be best to do a paint-over https://i.imgur.com/Y6UQJf3.png. Remember that your forms cast shadows on other forms too, not just the ground.

    Finally, on to your animals. I can see the forms in your animals that you're creating but you're having a lot of trouble with proportions. Those troubles are directly related to how you've interpreted the lesson. Above all, you need to work on your line confidence. There are many ellipses and lines that you've gone over 5+ times in these drawings. Drawn over lines are ambiguous, and when constructing will make your drawings weaker and less believable. Shaky lines, like in this dog https://i.imgur.com/g17GXUV.jpg, are against the lessons taught here. Even the marks on the tufts of fur need to have a clear direction.

    The cranial ball that you start with (the ball at the end of the neck) does not need to encompass the entire head of the animal. You can add mass to it as you see fit, and you'll often get better results if you do not try to get it right the first time. Try not to think of the neck as a stiff cylinder, but as a sausage form or a branch that fits into a ball. The neck can curve in all animals. Draw a slightly smaller neck, with a smaller ball, and then add as needed. Feel your own head, and how your neck fits into it. Your face is almost like a mask that goes over the ball at the back of your head. This is kind of what the Loomis method for drawing heads is based off of, and can apply to all animals. Also, it's important that everything you draw reads as 3d. The muzzle on many of your animals don't have any construction. You need to do it every time.

    My last bit of advice has to do with texture. You seem to be focusing a lot on adding texture to your drawings, but in a lot of instances it ends up visually confusing. You don't need to draw every tuft of fur, or every scale on a lizard. You don't really even need to draw in the stripped patterns of fur on a cat or a dog. You can imply a lot of information by adding just a few tufts of fur, or only adding scales in areas where it's dark or the form turns. It saves you time and it will make your drawings read better.

    I know that's a lot of feedback but I honestly think it's great that you completed the lesson. I can tell that you're starting to think in 3d but if you begin trying to fix the fundamental problems you'll be able to work out the proportions easy. If you haven't already completed the previous lessons you really should do so, at the very least go through lesson 1 and 2. I'm going to recommend some exercises. It may seem like a bit much but I feel like it will help you out a lot if you intend to complete the next lesson.

    Next Steps:

    1. Draw 3 pages of animals hoofed animals, construction only. No fur, no texture and no line weight. Only draw one animal per page, aiming to take up the entire page. Do not draw these animals from side view, try to find photo references where the full animal is in view but they are facing away or towards the camera.

      The aim of this is to focus on construction and forget texture. You have too many animals at strictly sideview and I feel like it's because you aren't confident overlapping forms. 
    2. Complete 1 row of the texture analysis exercise, for cat fur https://drawabox.com/lesson/2/textureanalysis This will get you thinking about texture the correct way.

    3. Complete 1 full page of ghosted planes with ellipses. https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/ellipsesinplanes Do not overlap any of your lines, and only draw through your ellipses twice as the lesson recommends.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    11:48 AM, Monday May 18th 2020

    I think you're getting the lessons, this looks like good work. On your first page of superimposed lines you had some fraying at both ends. That implies that you weren't putting your pen down on the same spot to start your stroke but you got a handle on that later on.

    The ellipses look good but I would recommend doing them larger. Drawing both small and large ellipses now will help you out later on.

    The organic perspective exercise is rough, but that's understandable cause this is lesson 1. Mine looked just as rough, if not worse lol. Just keep in mind that the most important thing about drawing a 3d box imo is that lines always converge towards a point away from the camera. If you keep that in mind and force yourself to stick to it, most other mistakes are forgiveable and things will look better.

    I would recommend you continue doing the ghosted planes exercise to get your line confidence up. Don't make them all the same size, do them big and small and fill them with ellipses.

    I will mark this as complete.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to lesson 2.

    Integrate ghosted planes with ellipses into daily warmup

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    8:02 PM, Tuesday May 5th 2020

    Thank you! You've given me a lot to work on, but I'm really glad that I have clear actionable things I can do to improve here. As I start the next lesson I'm going to make sure to review the materials and your feedback before I begin each day.

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