Robininnanjing

Hi Uncomfortable,

Thanks for the feedback and I will most definitely be working on these cast shadows in the future.

I just wanted to give you some feedback on the course. I really liked the approach to the course. Just before Drawabox, I had tried a Udemy drawing course where you watch recorded videos to complete the course. It's insane how not having feedback and a tutor just dramatically hindered my motivation and also ultimately defeats the purpose of these courses. I had a really hard time sticking to the course and I don't think I've learned anything. On the other hand, while Drawabox does not set official deadlines per se , I felt compelled to move forward and draw every day in order to get to the next lessons or even merely getting to the next part of an assignment. And the feedback is insanely useful because you focus on different things at different times. Also drawing with rulers and templates helped a lot because I could focus on proportions and spatial awareness rather than creating 'a beautiful drawing'. So yeah the format is totally awesome and I hope you create other courses like environment or characters !! And also it's like the best value for money out there I reckon.

Thanks a lot for allowing me to complete the course by the way. I've now signed up for New Master Academy and I'm super stoked. (Thanks for the discount code man.)

Wish you all the best,

Robin

Link to revision https://imgur.com/a/CJmCuBZ

Hi Uncomfortable,

Here are my revisions, it's a Ford Raptor. I've been working a lot on wheels although my threads and spokes need a lot of improving (someone needs to make a video about this). I also made sure I paid attention to the points you mentionned like scribbling, not doing several passes and no clean pass, cast shadows only. I must have spent like 2-3 minutes pondering what to do with a line in some cases. I also tried to limit the use of construction lines to where it was absolutely unavoidable. For instance, when determining where the rear wheel was going to be, i only marked points on left VP lines rather than drawing the actual construction lines. (phfew ! not even sure if that makes sense...) I used a brush pen for cast shadows but didn't do the inside of the car because I wanted to leave more lines apparent for you to see. (Also because I wanted the wipers smears to show.)

You will notice some lines are doubled, that's because i wanted to try to convey the impression of bevel and thickness, like the edges around the windows for example. I mean most objects have some kind of bevelled edges, right ? (I don't know...).

I think the wheelbase is a bit too long and ground clearance too tall which makes the car look a bit stretched. I think the greenhouse is generally ok except for some contour lines. The front of the car gets messier around the front bumper. The front grill with the Ford sign looks squashed, I got my perspective lines too close to one another arghhh...Also the rear wheel was too thin and I tried to thicken it with one more ellipse, which I regretted immediately......

On this particular vehicle here are the dates and rough times I spent on it.

Dec, 28, 40 min

Dec 27, 1 1/2 hour

Dec 26, 45 min

Dec 25 25 min

Dec, 23, 1 hour

Dec 22, 45 min

Then again I started working on it the day after I got your feedback and I drew about 12 vehicles over this month, including three Ford Raptors before that one and spending a couple of hours on each one.

Once again I look forward to your feedback.

Cheers

Robin

Hi Uncomfortable,

Thanks for the feedback and apologies for not reading the instructions thoroughly. I get it, though.

Here is what I did. Cube 1: I used a red pen to check everything then realized it's hella confusing. Cubes 2 and 3 I switched to different colours for different vanishing points, still not good. From cube 5 I used a black pen for the cube's edges extensions as well as the cylinder's sides. I used an orange marker for the ellipses real minor axeses, a green pen for one set of points on the ellipse and blue pen for the other set.

For the green and blue lines, I tried to keep it honest and used whatever point where the ellipse and cube edge meet. Hence some of the lines sometimes shooting off in awkward directions rahter than towar the VP. Same for the orange minor axis, like cubes 8 and 20, it goes nowhere in the direction of the VP. I mean, some of my ellipses look like burger buns. I feel toward the end I sort of maybe got slightly better ish (cube 19). Anyway, cool exercise for practicing ellipses !

Let me know !

Link:

https://imgur.com/a/VukfiCl

much appreciated, thank you !

Hi Uncomfortable,

Here is another 4 animals. I made a checklist for myself: full bodies, head construction method (I hope you see the construction lines under the multiple overlapping), for the chimp, the snout is much rounder than for other mammals so I sort of rounded it a bit I hope it's ok, sausages for limbs (question: where is the separation for sausages supposed to take place? at the joints ?), eye sockets+big eye balls, no texture, overlapping masses ('helmets' on heads), no (less) chicken scratches. My pen is dying. I find toes/hooves super hard and so tried to copy the donkey demo you did. I watched the entire lesson 5 one more time to make sure I adhered to each principle.

I think this is the best I can do for now and I look forwad to hearing from you.

Cheers,

https://imgur.com/a/xDDSqCk

Hi Uncomfortable,

It's not a langauge barrier issue and I'm not deliberately skipping your instructions. That would be extremely disrespectul to you and the course. I'm really sorry my drawings appear as 'skipping' some of the principles taught in the course. I do want to learn and apply the principles of the course. There is perhaps a lot of information to compute at once, I only started drawing last year, and I'm probably unable to apply every princple thoroughly in one drawing. With regards to the head construction, for example with the sideview of the capybara's head, I was focused on the body and sausage for the legs so I totally neglected the head and also I didn't know how to apply construction on a profile view for the head.

In the other drawings, I did do my best to apply the head constrcution from the lesson for example the cheetah and the horse. I actually printed it out to have it next to me to make sure I adhered to it. I know It didn't come out quite the way it should have and I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong. However, for example with the horse's head I tried to draw a ball then added a rectangular box but I honestly thought that this is how it should have been drawn. I can see in your corrections that the snout 'box' should have included one more face though, not just the four faces of a box. With the eye sockets it's my fault because you can't see the sockets under the eyes. The eyes are too thick but I promise I did draw sockets first and then the eyes as per the instructions.

I really want to finish the course because I hate giving up and most of all I feel I'm learning a great deal, albeit at my own pace (I'm a slow learner). The course is really keeping me motivated to draw and it's become part of my daily routine for almost 6 months now. There's absolutely no way I'm "refusing" to apply the principles of the course, again I don't mean any disrespect. I have zero authority on drawing whatsoever so I'll just do whatever the course is telling me to do and I have immense respect for what you do man. I ask for some leniency and one more opportunity to show I can follow and apply the tenets of the course.

Again, sincere apologies if i came across disrespectul in my drawings by not applying all the principles of the course.

Hi,

Plesase find another 4 pages of animal constructions.

Best,

https://imgur.com/a/zKQ6XBs

Hi,

Please find revisions for lesson 5. I did a few more pages than you asked. I think the things I focused on the most were the underlying construcitons and sausages. I think I'm finally getting my head around treating the underlying lines as part of the whole drawing. The reason i was cutting through the underlying silouette is because I was not trying to draw on them.

Cheers,

https://imgur.com/a/bnUDppK

Rob

Hi, thanks for the feedback. Until now, I wasn't sure what you meant about 'not cutting into the silhouette' to be honest. Now that you highlighted it on the mosquito I understand. So what ever shape we draw at first should essentially be the 'skeleton' and we should seek to stack other shapes on top, right?

I was wondering if those skills/gudielines also apply to pencil drawings. Of course we can erase initial construction marks but would you say that even with a pencil, you still lay out the skeleton for whatever will come on top of it later ?

Hi,

Pleae find my revisions for lesson 4. As per the requirements, I only used my .5 mm, refrained from scratching and tried to add only complete forms rather than half-outlines of whatever.

I look forward to your feedback.

https://imgur.com/a/kcNEQhF