Rabuuhs

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    8:56 PM, Tuesday March 28th 2023

    Good job on completing the revision!

    Overall you did the exercise correctly, however I should have probably been more specific in what I meant by round-on-round/flat surfaces. This basically means all the intersections but focusing on ones that create the round and flat ones. For example a cone and a sphere, a sphere and a cylinder, cylinder and cone etc. not just spheres and boxes. This only limits you to 2 intersections and doesn't really challenge your spacial reasoning skills because you are essentially just repeating the same intersection over and over. For the intersections themselves I noticed you tried surrounding the boxes with spheres which ended up creating impossible / "see through" intersections. This basically means you draw intersections where you can't see them. This is a good exercise once your spatial reasoning has advanced to the level where form intersections is easy but for now try to only do intersections which the viewer (you) can see. Finally, while the lines for the boxes and outer part of the sphere are certainly confident, the intersections themselves become very messy due to the repeated line work which tells me you aren't really ghosting that much and are instead re-drawing the lines based on instinct. Every mark done in the drawabox course should be thought out and deliberate by ghosting many times and thinking before hand. Additionally the lines on the boxes themselves are diverging which is impossible for a box to do.

    I won't assign revisions as the major errors are from different lessons, however I strongly recommend you take a look at the box challenge and lesson 1, focusing specifically on line work and boxes. As you mentioned in your other reply, since you've been doing drawabox for a couple of years now you probably haven't done warmups consistently for those years but even just 10 minutes a day can go a long way.

    About the stuff you wrote on AI, I actually thought it would never be able to be automated but it was actually one of the first things to be automated which is quite interesting. Because of this more and more artists have been posting less and less which is disheartening and depressing as people are accepting that they will lose their skills to AI. It would be nice if society shifted from a labour to leisure economy but I think that is still far off into the future, probably when AGI is developed as the current narrow AIs won't be able to replace every job (probably?).

    Anyway, congrats on completing drawabox! If you have any questions don't hesitate to reply.

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    5:29 PM, Friday March 24th 2023

    Congrats on finishing lesson 7! I'll do my best to give you feedback so you can improve.

    Starting with your form intersections there are a few issues I'd like to address. The first being unconfident linework. Generally by the time students reach lesson 7 they should have built up enough mileage with the ghosting method and markmaking from warmups. I can only guess that you've neglected doing warmups so I strongly suggest that you continue to do them after you finish the course. Moving on to the intersections themselves, I can see that you do a good job for flat-on-flat intersections but problems start to appear on the round-on-flat and round-on-round intersections. Remember that instead of thinking of the intersections between forms, think of them as between surfaces. Usually for round-on-flat curves there will be a "C" shape between the 2 like your cylinder going through the box. For round-on-round, it's usually an "S" curve between the forms. From what I can see you still end up using C curves which makes the objects look flat. I'll be asking for a revision of this exercise with cleaner line work and more intersections between round-on-round/flat surfaces just to make sure you have a good understanding before finishing the course. I'll give you this diagram which may help your understanding as well as this form intersection pack (made by optimus on discord) and this guide on how to use paint 3D to make your own intersections and to experiment with different configurations.

    Your boxed cylinders are looking good so keep it up. The reason uncomfortable asks for this exercise again at the end of the course is to see if students are doing it correctly so when doing warmups they can still get value out of the exercise.

    Finally for your vehicle constructions you've done a really good job with these! I can see you've patiently and carefully built up the constructions. I only have a couple points to make.

    First it seems like you've only blocked out the general shape of the vehicle on the orthographic plans and did the subdivision on the construction itself. While this isn't wrong, it can be more beneficial to do all the subdivision on the orthographic plans before doing it on the construction. Doing it this way allows us to separate the decision making process and the thinking in 3d process allowing us to focus on one task at each step instead of multiple on one step. Uncomfortable has updated the orthographic plan instructions from lesson 6 and 7 in case you missed it. The one on lesson 6 has an example which illustrates how orthographic plans can be used to precisely define specific landmarks on an object however that can also be transfered to vehicle plans as well.

    Second, you've opted for a grid like approach in the subdivision which is ok, however you didn't replicate this grid onto the constructions (from what I can see) which essentially makes them useless as you can't transfer information from the plan to the construction. Luckily this is made up for by the fact you did subdivision on the constructions but it's still important to make the plan match the construction. On the topic of plans I'd also suggest that you base the plan off the wheel measurement as that is much more accurate than a grid (on cars atleast). This may not be possible in your case as from what I can see you don't have an ellipse / circle template but if you end up doing these exercises again I suggest getting one.

    Third, the 7th vehicle down (the truck) ends up looking flat because you didn't extend the top points to the other vanishing point which you may have missed. This is why separating the 3d thinking process is essential as you are less likely to get distracted and miss small mistakes like that. Also on that same vehicle (and a couple of others) you end up using form shading which is something that this course avoids. This is the difference between cast shadows and form shading which shows how cast shadows suggest form and form shading describes the form. I assume you were doing this with the line hatching as well which is also something to be avoided in this course as it's another form of form shading.

    Finally I suggest taking a look at this submission as this is what I consider as a perfect example for the exercises. In sharing this, I don't want you to compare your work to theirs as that would be missing the point. I share this so you can get a different perspective on how to approach these exercises.

    Overall though you've done a great job with this lesson, with a few minor tweaks to your approach I feel like you can get more out of the exercises if you choose to do them again. If you have any questions or if anything was unclear don't hesitate to ask.

    Next Steps:

    1 Page of form intersections

    • With confident linework

    • More focus on round-on-flat and round-on-round intersections (check out the links if you need help understanding them better)

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    4:51 AM, Tuesday March 21st 2023

    Very well done!

    You've demonstrated an extreme amount of patience and dedication and have shown you understand the lesson perfectly. There is honestly not much to critique!

    Good job!

    10:18 AM, Tuesday March 14th 2023

    Good job on completing the revision!

    The construction looks much better and I can see that you patiently built it up which is exactly what I was looking for. Just a minor point about the subdivisions, If you subdivide one side of the object you generally don't need to subdivide the other side as we won't see it anyway + the lines could end up confusing you. Also I circled some parts in red where the construction is vague. You always want to make sure that you draw curves as straight lines as those are precise and give the construction more solidity. Even if the object ends up looking boxy it's still fine as these are just exercises and aren't meant to look good anyway.

    Also if you missed it uncomfortable updated the lesson 6 page https://drawabox.com/lesson/6/1/orthographics with new orthographic information. Having another perspective on orthographic plans could help your understanding of them so make sure you give it a read.

    Anyway, I'll mark this lesson as complete, so good luck with the wheel challenge!

    Next Steps:

    25 Wheel challenge.

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    1:11 AM, Wednesday March 8th 2023

    No worries!

    As for the stuff about patience and ADHD all I can recommend is to take it slow. Stuff in lesson 6 and 7 can take up to 10 hours so all you can really do is take your time and just focus on the task at hand. This may be harder for you but it's still possible. 1 last bit of advice I can give is to practice mindfulness meditation as I've seen that help for people with ADHD

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    4:20 PM, Sunday March 5th 2023

    Congrats on completing lesson 3! I'll do my best to give you useful feedback so that you can improve.

    Starting with your arrows, the first thing I notice is that they tend to be a bit wobbly especially the hatching marks for the shadows. For this I suggest focusing more on line confidence exercises for warmups (ghosted planes + superimposed lines) while drawing from the shoulder and taking the time to ghost before hand to ensure a confident mark. This comic by uncomfortable helped me understand ghosting and confident mark execution so it might help you too. This advice also applies to the line weight you've added on overlaps, however those lines seem more chicken-scratchy probably due to the increased pressure for accuracy. Even if the line is harder to draw you should avoid chicken scratching at all costs as they ruin the linework. Chicken scratching can also be avoided by ghosting and drawing confidently from the shoulder so really make sure to practice that. Another thing I wanted to point out was the width of the arrows is sometimes inconsistent which breaks the illusion of the arrow "coming in" from a direction. You always want the arrow to get bigger as it moves closer to the viewer as it looks like it moves through 3d space towards the viewer.The final thing I wanted point out was to make sure the edges of the arrows overlap. If we take a look at the top left arrow (which I've redrawn here) and the end of the bottom right arrow the edges don't overlap which makes the arrows look flat which is what we're trying to avoid.

    Moving on to your leaves, you have some with really nice fluidity while others ended up looking flat. The main issue I see with your leaves is that some tend to skip constructional steps. For example, the middle two leaves look like they've been constructed based on guesswork rather than following a set of steps. You want to make sure you draw flow lines for each aspect of the leaf before hand so that you can construct on top of it. One final thing I wanted to mention is that the bottom left leaf doesn't fill up the whole space you've designated for the construction which can undermine it's solidity in 3d space so just be careful of that. Other than that your other leaves are very fluid so keep it up.

    Your branches, other than the linework issues previously mentioned, look good. I can see you've tried your best to make sure to shoot the line past the ellipse and have for the most part done a good job at it so keep it up.

    Finally your plant constructions, for the most part they turned out pretty good. The first thing I want to point out is on page number 6, the plant on the right has leaves that have zigzagging and look carelessly rushed while the plant on the left had some missing branches and some of the flow lines on the leaves ended up stiff. This also happens on some other plants but not to the same extent and usually only on a couple of leaves but it wasn't that uncommon for it be just an outlier case so make sure you focus on flow lines and the zigzagging issue. For the potted plant on the next page, make sure you construct the pot around a minor axis to ensure the ellipses line up like you've done on other plants.

    Other than those issues, your plants are sort of a mixed bag with some being really good (pages 1, 2, 3) and others being what is to be expected at this stage of the course. Before I end this critique I wanted to discuss your use of cast shadows. Areas of solid black should only be reserved for cast shadows which typically require us to design a new shape (as seen here and here). From what I can see you've used black inside potted plants as to maybe colour the soil which should be avoided as that is akin to form shading.

    Overall this was a good submission which showed a good deal of growth in your understanding of 3d space which is why I won't assign revisions to the arrows even though they had a number of issues. I strongly recommend you focus on your linework during warmups as that is the biggest issue, then focus on the issues I pointed out on specific exercises. I don't normally critique earlier lessons so if anything was unclear or if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. Good luck in lesson 4!

    Next Steps:

    Lesson 4

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    2:35 PM, Sunday March 5th 2023

    Very nice!

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    3:27 PM, Thursday March 2nd 2023

    If you join the drawabox discord there's a channel called #critique-exchange where you essentially critique other peoples work and in return someone will critique yours. The pinned message explains how it works in depth so make sure you check it out if you want your work critiqued.

    4:49 AM, Wednesday March 1st 2023

    These intersections look much better! The only thing I should point out is that if you're going to increase line weight only do it where an intersection occurs. The way you do it now seems kind of random and makes it confusing to look at. For example on the first page you have a pyramid who's outline has increased line weight, I would just add line weight for the intersections between the cylinder and box. Other than line weight issue the intersections look good and I'm glad you used 3D paint to increase your understanding.

    Good luck for the wheel challenge!

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    4:35 PM, Monday February 27th 2023

    For your first question, I would suggest you restart as the lesson material has been updated and maybe take a look at the critique you received. Even if you got it 3 years ago it could still help you understand the material better.

    For your second question, it helps to see the lessons as puzzles to solve or goals to achieve. I finished drawabox in about 6 months and I never really felt burnt out while doing it. What really motivated me was setting the official critique cooldown as a deadline for me to finish the work. Even though uncomfortable recommends against this, as long as you do the best you can, following the instructions to the letter and incorporating the feedback you receive from official critiques it is doable. However in your case I wouldn't set the deadline for 2 weeks. Instead set it at a reasonable time which you can expect yourself to do it by. This makes deadlines a great way to stay motivated and finish the course.

    But avoiding burnout would be the total opposite of setting deadlines. You avoid burnout by going at your own pace and setting reasonable expectations. The majority of people who do drawabox give up by the box challenge and claim they're "burnt out" from doing boxes. But that's because all they did was draw boxes without doing anything else. Which is why the 50% rule is crucial to avoiding burnout and in your case you could do something like a 30/70 "rule" or spend an even greater time doing the art you want to do, as long as it's equal or more to "50%". Doing this will probably make it less likely that you will quit.

    So to avoid burnout and finish the course you have to find a balance between the deadlines you set and the amount of time you spend on your own art.

    Finally I feel like the reason you quit in 2021 was more so due to getting "negative" feedback which is the best type of feedback to get. If you got feedback that only sang your praises it would be pretty useless if you were trying to improve as you would most likely know what you're doing right (although not always the case). I would suggest going over lesson 0 again to remind yourself of how the course works and how to handle feedback. This timestamp of uncomfortables video might help you handle feedback better by changing your perspective to not take your work too seriously.

    Hope this helps, if you have anymore questions feel free to ask.

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