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Hi WCOL0!

I wanted to reply here.

You can use any type of FINELINER pens regardless of brands.

After looking up your pen option on google, I can see that it is not a fineliner pen but actually a ballpoint pen.

As what a fineliner is, you can see the explenation here:

"Fineliners are pens with plastic or fine fibre needle-point tips that generally use water-based ink but sometimes use oil-based."

~ThePenCompany

While Ballpoint pens are:

ballpoint pen is a pen that dispenses ink over a metal ball at its point, i.e. over a "ball point".

~Wikipedia

That is the official explanation, so that no one is confused here. Usually Fineliner's tip is tube like and cylindrical, while ballpoint's tip is more rounded like a sphere(ball).

To answer you question, No. You can't use PILOT TecPoint V5 because they are not fineliners

So what now?

I have a few suggestions.

I personally live in Indonesia so I presume that our products are quite simillar.

In here I could find a few fineliner brands that are affordable like,

• Joyko Fineliners

• V-tec Fineliners

• Snowman Fineliners (I personally use this)

• Sakura micron pens

All of these are available in shopee indo and philippines.

Hope that helps!!

Once your page is scanned/taken picture of, you can use the other side for warmups.

I use old papers, letters, any sheet that is still blank on the back for mine.

Hello,

I’m using only one side because I don’t like to see the already used side showing in transparency, it distracts me drawing my box, and I think it can mess up with reading and analyzing the homework afterwards. Using printer paper here.

It also depends on the thickness of paper you use, though. If the first side doesn’t show off at all, it’s probably fine to use both side.

I’m kind of bothered with messy page, so it might be very subjective. Looking forward to read more opinions from other students and/or DaB teachers.

Em’

Hi here is my critique I hope it helps you

Lesson 1

Lines

In the exercises with lines your lines are confident which is important and you do it very well there is only a bit of arching in super imposed lines but in the most part is a very good job.

Ellipses

Your ellipses are confident first of all and you do it very precise also you take your time in the exercises and you read very well the lessons good job.

Boxes

In the boxes section you understood very well the concept of a vanishing point and you applied very well in the exercises, but there are a bit of mistakes one is that you’re not meant to do more work than the asked por the lesson and you do it in the lessons several times. Other thing is that in the organic perspective exercise you do in my opinion less boxes than the asked for.

I'd recommend reviewing the lesson material starting from Lesson 0, then doing some sessions devoted to warmups from L1, and the box challenge (since those are the sections you completed), then continuing from where you left off.

There are some fundamental problems with your boxes. The sides tend to not align to the same vanishing point, and at times break the ">90 degree rule", i.e. the angles between the edges of the 3 planes facing the viewer should all be greater than 90 degrees. This was explained in lesson 1, I believe. I suspect you didn't do the 250 box challenge, or lesson 1. The markmaking is sort of off, but that shouldn't have been a problem since you're encouraged to use a ruler for this lesson. The form intersections do however show better markmaking and understanding of 3D space, but the ">90 degree rule" is something to be aware of.

Welcome to drawabox, and congrats on competing Lesson 1. Let’s see how you did, shall we?

Starting off, your superimposed lines are looking great. They’re smooth, properly lined up at the start, and of a consistent trajectory.

Your ghosted lines look quite confident, too, and I’m pleased to see how ambitious you’ve gotten with some of them.

The ghosted planes do a solid job of maintaining said confidence, though I do find myself wondering if you’ve plotted start/end points for their non-diagonal center lines, here. If not, please do, moving forward.

Moving on to the ellipse section, the table of ellipses exercise is well done – a lot of confidence on display, here! Further, the ellipses are rounded, and properly drawn through. It does seem, however, as if there’s not a great deal of variety in regards to their degrees/angles, so try to work on that a little more.

The ellipses in planes look good. Despite their more complicated frames, you’ve done a nice job of maintaining their previous smoothness/roundness, here.

The funnels, too, look solid, and I’m pleased to see how comfortable you are drawing them big and overlapping them, here – that’s the way forward. The occasional spacing issues are nothing to stress over, by the way, but I will request that if you only have half a minor axis’ worth of line, you do not add another ellipse. If you insist on doing so, extend the axis first. It’s very important that our ellipses here have a goal.

Over at the box section, the plotted perspective exercise looks clean, and I appreciate the degree of experimentation.

The rough perspective exercise, too, looks great. I appreciate that, though it looked like it was starting a little rough, it took you exactly one frame to figure everything out. Then, your convergences were on-point, and your linework steadily improved throughout the set. I will, however, remind you that, as we’re dealing with 1-point perspective, 2 sets of lines need to be at infinity. Which is to say, the back lines need to be parallel/perpendicular to the horizon. If they’re not, your box is incorrect by default.

The rotated boxes exercise is missing 2 boxes (1 and 5/6ths?), but what’s here is well done. It’s big, its boxes are snug, and they do a solid job of rotating. This is the case in the back, too, which is impressive – you’ve done a good job of being attentive to the neighboring edges. However, more than any of that, what we judge students on here is whether they’ve seen the exercise through to the end, so do be careful when it comes to things like that. Encountering difficulties is expected – sometimes, we’ll intentionally throw them at you – how you behave when you do is what ends up being the difference.

The organic perspective exercise is mostly good. The overshooting makes me think that you’ve not plotted start/end points for your lines here (you should), and the automatic reinforcing issue is a problem, too (remember that each line is drawn once, and only once, regardless of how it turns out), but, beyond that, things are looking good. Your boxes are well constructed, and flow well, as a result of their size, and foreshortening.

Hello Lucy! Welcome to drawabox and congrats for completing lesson 1!

I'll be critiquing your homework today.

Before getting into it I just want to mention you shouldn't be scared or hesitant to share your work and/or getting a critique. As comfy says at the end of every video, you shouldn't work in a vacuum, you'll improve much faster by working together with others! If you haven't already, I recommend joining the official drawabox discord server.

1.Lines

Your lines look pretty great!

Confident and smooth strokes with fairly little wobbling. Of course, there still is some wobbliness and arching in a couple of instances. You could try experimenting with different angles as well as drawing your lines faster and don't forget to always prioritize confidence over accuracy.

You've done really good overall though, and these are things you'll get to improve by doing these exercises as warm-ups later on, so don't worry.

2.Ellipses

Your ellipses look pretty great too! Drawn through 2-3 times and very nicely smooth and confident.

Again, there are some instances of slight wobble in some of your ellipses, and I encourage you to try the same things for them as well. Ghost thoroughly and mark confidently! And remember, a confident but inaccurate line or ellipse will always be more correct than an accurate but wobbly one. Accuracy will come naturally with practice.

3.Boxes

Your boxes look really good and you seem to have understood perspective quite well.

You also seem to have maintained your line quality consistent when going over to the boxes section, so great job with that!

It's important to keep using the techniques used at the line section for the entirety of drawabox.

There are a couple of instances where you have repeated some of your lines to correct them. This is something you should avoid doing for all of your mark making in drawabox going forward. No matter how off a line may be, you should keep the line as if it is correct and move on.

Your margin of error in rough perspective is really low, so great job on that too!

Your rotated boxes and organic perspective might look a little wonky, but that's ok. You'll have plenty of time to improve your lines and boxes further in the 250 box challenge.

Overall you've done a great job!

Remember to use the exercises you've completed in lesson 1 as warmups before every drawing session. They both help improve those skills you have learned and also prevent you from getting "rusty" overtime.

I'll be marking your submission as complete, good luck with the 250 Box Challenge!

Hi, I'll be giving my feedback for your 250 boxes challenge. First and foremost, congratulations on finishing this challenge!

• The lines you did were confident, not a lot of wobble from what I have seen. Though sometime they would not reach the end point of where you are aiming. Not all of them, just a few.

• I appreciate the variety of foreshortening at earlier boxes. Usually people would go with shallow foreshorterning first before doing dramatic, but I'm impressed that you tried doing dramatic first. Even thought they might look wobbly or like a trapezoid, it would have been much better if you kept on trying and not just stop at the beginning. After those mistakes, you seem to be afraid to do anymore of them and instead stick to shallow foreshorterning instead. We are all here to make mistake, that way we can learn to improve. So don't be afraid to fail :D

• Some of the extended lines were not long enough. Even if the extended lines are converging not on the location you are aiming for, it is good practice to just extend it. That way you can know where you land currently and from there work your way toward your goal. If you do your extension lines after a page of boxes, those lines are not going to bother you that much. My page looked ugly with extension lines hitting one another, but it helped me to visualise where I'm currently at.

• I think the glaring issues I see from this homework is that you seem to repeat the same mistake over and over again. The learning process is something that is hard to explain in words, but generally you should always look at where you currently are and where you are heading. I saw a major improvement from the early boxes (10-50) before finally stagnating. The angles you drew started to become similar and eventually you just keep repeating the same mistake. Around boxes 100-250, majority of the boxes had a very wide convergences. I can see some one or two axes of extended lines converge on the same spot, but the majority were not. Additionally, with how short your lines extension, it's hard to know where your lines are converging, making it hard for you to calibrate yourself to your goal.

• I know this exercise might feel boring to do and that I had a feeling that you are in a rush (Seeing how box no 115-116 didn't have any line extension), but learning is a slow process. So take things a bit slow and try to put more effort before your pen touch the paper. Maybe putting a dot as a vanishing point and then use the ghosting method (kinda like how you do your rough perspective homework on lesson 1)

So I wanted you to do a quick little revision for this exercise. Don't worry, you are not going to draw 250 boxes again.

Hi, I'll be giving you my critique for this challenge.

The first thing I wanted to say is congratulations on finishing this mighty challenge! Go give yourself a pat on the back.

Now for the critiques:

• Old mistakes coming back. We all started with boxes with extended lines that didn't converge with one another, the same happens here and I could see a rapid improvement in your convergences. Lines that at first didn't converge finally converge. However, after around the 50th boxes, I saw a rapid decline in quality boxes. Lots of the lines didn't converge (especially the one extended down south) as if this was your first box. What I think is dangerous is that this mistake kept getting repeated over and over again almost in 100 boxes (see around boxes no 100-200) where you seem to draw the same angled boxes over and over again while also repeating the same mistake (extended lines going south almost never meet). So personally, I would like you to check what you have drawn earlier and learn from it before you do the next page. See which part you could improve and keep calibrating from the mistake you have made. You don't have to make big changes for every page, but small changes until you can finally make a good box.

• Your lines were confident, which is great! However, I suggest that you should try to vary the boxes you draw. Most of the boxes you drew had shallow foreshortening. I suggest playing with a more dramatic foreshorterning. Don't worry if you make mistakes, we are all here to make mistakes and learn from them. I think this happened around boxes 100-200, where all the boxes feel very similar in terms of angle and size.

• Overall the extended lines never really converge near the boxes. Most of the time it was too wide and even if it was narrow and tight, you rarely get three of them in one box. You managed to get some boxes where all three extended lines converge in one spot, though a majority is still too wide. I suggest making a mistake where you make the convergences points for the line too close to the box and calibrate from there. Varying the way you make mistakes may help you fix the other one.

• Some of the extended lines seem to not go to the viewer's eyes. You only did this a couple of times, so it's not that bad.

Overall, I think the biggest thing you need to take from this is that you need to check your previous work before drawing another one. Try to find out what works and what is not working on the lats you drew before drawing another page. It's gonna allow you to incrementally improve your drawing, without feeling like you need to improve so much that it feels like a wall. Keep this in mind when doing the next exercises.

Good luck with your next exercise! Cheers!