Purpel

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    8:13 PM, Monday August 15th 2022

    Hey, Jackc! Here is my critique, I hope it will be helpful to you!

    Organic Arrows

    These are pretty good, but you can improve the shading. Specifically, it looks out of control. You want to convey the surface as well as the shadows. Keep the hatching lines parallel, going across the surface (see the shading lines here).

    The Leaves Exercise

    Nice work with the compound leaves and edge detail! I see you made some mistakes, but you corrected yourself, good job! Concerning the shadows/texture, you might want to avoid “scratches” like in the leaves at the bottom of the page; better use the texture like in the leaves in the middle.

    Another, maybe counter-intuitive idea, might be to texturize the light areas since light gives more information. This can make your drawings “pop out” even more.

    The Branches Exercise

    Although most of your lines are confident, I can see fraying and double strokes, almost as if you used a pencil and erased it later. Don’t worry if a line goes wrong. Don’t redo the line - try to work around it. It’s a valuable skill, especially later on when things get much more complex. I am glad to see that you passed each ellipse twice, and really tried to align everything to the axis. However, you can make this even better by changing the degrees of your ellipses.

    Plants

    First off, nice work, and well done with applying what you’ve learned in the Leaves and Branches exercises. Your plants look three dimensional and I can see you thought about the forms that make them up. Keep this up! You have the required number of constructions as well.

    I noticed that some of your mushrooms have very “frayed” ellipses – did you go over them more than three times? Maybe your fineliner stopped working? Anyway, go over the ellipses 3 times max, and other lines and curves only once.

    Concerning texture, most of it is pretty good. You might want to avoid lines such as those on this mushroom. At least make them thicker on the darker end, just like with the gradient in Lesson 2.

    That’s it! Nice work!

    Next Steps:

    Congratulations on completing Lesson 3!

    You can move on to Lesson 4.

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    5:14 PM, Monday August 15th 2022

    Hey there,

    I'll post my initial critique to your submission below and elaborate on it:

    • Many of your boxes have parallel or even diverging lines, try choosing a vanishing point that is closer to the box or even somewhere on the page, that makes it easier to actually get your lines to converge properly.

    • You should be taking more time constructing your boxes, most of them seem rushed. You extended some of your lines in the wrong direction and crossed them afterwards, don't do that. If a line went wrong so be it, do not redraw or cross over lines.

    • Your hatching is kinda messy, take your time and ghost straight lines from one edge to the other side of the plane, at some boxes you even scribbled a messy line across the plane. Hatching is optional and makes your boxes read better, so if you decide to hatch a plane, do it tidy and take your time. I recommend always hatching the plane that covers the inner corner, that makes your perspective read better

    • Do only hatch in one direction, do not cross over your hatching in multiple directions

    • I see some degree of wobble in your lines, so take your time to properly ghost and plan your lines, only then do a confident stroke from you shoulder, that is even more important to getting the lines right (confidence > accuracy)

    • Your did a good job of identifying mistakes yourself, gave each box it's proper space and used multiple colored pencils for the different directions, good job!

    Overall the most important things you should be working on is that in almost every single box of yours there is at least one side of lines that is parallel or diverging instead of converging. Try following this step by step guide to improve upon that: https://imgur.com/3zoQA65

    Also your hatching is very messy, so if you are deciding to do hatching, try being more tidy doing it in the future.

    I think if you draw some boxes from time to time as warm up and keep those points in mind, you will definitely see improvement!

    Next Steps:

    As long as you keep practicing drawing boxes and experiment more with different foreshortening a bit more, you are free to move on to lesson 2 :)

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    2:08 AM, Monday August 15th 2022

    Hi. Congratulations on the completion of Lesson 1. I will give my critique for your work.

    Superimposed lines: They look nice. You have drawn the lines and arcs nicely and confidently with minimal fraying on only one end, and you did not try to second-guess, thus achieving the goal of the exercise. Note some of your long lines still arch, but the arching is acceptable (You can, and should, still improve on that).

    Ghosted lines and planes: You connected all the dots and the lines are straight, save for a few errors. Very, very good results.

    Table of ellipses: Good effort. You drew through the ellipses twice, and they hit all the corners. However, the lines did not really superimpose on one another (you can certainly work on this!) and some ellipses showed second-guessing, evident in the wobbling.

    Ellipses in planes: Again, as above, although the ellipses are much more consistent and neat.

    Funnel: Good job. The axes are in place (mostly) and the ellipses are properly angled, although the ellipses have wobbling.

    Plotted perspective: You did well. Nothing else to say here.

    Rough perspective: Good effort, but your lines wobbled and some of your dots are misplaced. Remember while the horizontal and vertical lines run parellel/perpendicular to the horizon, the depth lines converge at the predesignated VP on the horizon.

    Rotated boxes: For the hardest exercise in Lesson 1, good job. You still need to be more confident with your box placement, especially with the more extreme-positioned boxes on the far corners. I would say try to achieve what you have done on the right side of the exercise.

    Organic perspective: You did very well. Lines are straight and the boxes are even.

    Next Steps:

    You can now move on to the 250 boxes.

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    7:40 PM, Sunday August 14th 2022

    Hey, Bisaiya. Congratulations on completing the Lesson 1 homework! ^^

    Overall, Your submission looks good. I can tell you've followed the instructions and have worked with the proper tools.

    Here's the review:

    LINES

    • Your superimposed lines are good. You took the time to position your pen correctly at the starting point & the lines don't fray too early.

    • For the ghosted lines, i see most of them are either arched or wobbly.

    To solve the arched line issue, make sure that you are using your shoulder pivot while drawing. If you are already using the shoulder pivot, then try to consciously arc your line slightly in the opposite direction.

    As for the wobbly lines, i assume that is because you are drawing them slowly. So, Try to draw them faster. Don't worry about the accuracy. Getting our lines to be confident, smooth is our first priority :) Don't hesitate, it'll be okay if you miss the mark. ^^

    • Great Job for the ghosted planes! :D your planes are smooth & confident. Also, you have taken advantage of all the space the page has to offer & have tried variety of sizes.

    ELLIPSES

    • Your ellipses in the planes are good & smooth. You have drawn through the ellipses 3 times, although it is okay but drawing through the ellipses not more than 2 times is preferred. So, keep that in mind when you do this exercise for warmup.

    • Ellipses in the table are clean,smooth & confident. You kept the the degrees consistent, good job on that!

    • The funnels are good. Although the ellipses are drawn confidently, i notice some ellipses are not aligned properly with the central minor axis line.

    And here too, i see you have drawn through more than 2 times at some places.

    So, remember to draw through the ellipse only 2 times & Make sure that the minor axis cuts each ellipse into 'two equal, symmetrical halves'. Maybe you can try to draw the arching lines first and after that add the minor axis, so you can make sure you always hit the middle.

    BOXES

    • The Plotted perspective looks nice. I like the way you added line weight :D

    • The rough perspective exercise is decent. I notice that some of your boxes are slightly distorted & that's because there's slight problem with the lines.

    The width lines should be parallel to horizon and height lines perpendicular to the horizon. Make sure to always check this.

    Also, i see wobbly/arched lines here as well.

    • Your rotated boxes are good. It actually has well-grouped rotated boxes, the gaps are narrow and consistent & you have drawn through the boxes.

    • The organic perspective exercise looks nice. You understood the instructions properly. The VPs of the boxes are good.

    So, I see no reason to ask you to repeat any exercise, I believe you have gotten the gist of the lesson and have applied the techniques that were taught.

    Good Luck for the 250 Box challenge! :)

    Next Steps:

    Use Lesson 1 exercises as Warmups & Move on to 250 Box Challenge.

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    12:16 PM, Sunday August 14th 2022

    Greetings mate. Congratulations on completing Lesson 1. I will give my feedback and advice on your exercises.

    Superimposed lines: Your lines appear straight and it shows you did it without hesitation, which is very good. Your lines do fray at the ends, so practicing more would be ideal.

    Ghosted lines: Good results. However, some lines wobbled as you tried to connect the dots. My tip is that you should simply go for it the best you could, in one swoop. Don't think twice once you've put your pen onto the paper.

    Ellipses in table: Well done! You drew through your ellipses and most looked fairly consistent, although some of them showed wobbling and second-guessing (perhaps you tried to hit all corners?). The flow should be prioritised over accuracy here.

    Ghosted planes & Ellipses in planes: Nicely made. Straight lines and the dots are connected. Ellipses are consistent.

    Funnels: Again, nice ellipses. Some axes and ellipses are off-centred though.

    Plotted perspective: Spectacular. I don't see anything wrong here.

    Rough perspective: Nice effort. The boxes have been meticulously placed and drawn, and you did not redraw any lines. Some lines are still wobbly. We draw them confidently and smoothly, and accuracy should be ignored until your lines improve. Also try to align the boxes with the vanishing point more accurately.

    Rotated boxes: For the hardest exercise in Lesson 1, you did a good job. Confident lines and boxes are placed accurately, but there's still much more room for improvement.

    Organic perspective: I love the variety of boxes you had, and the fact you didn't redraw your lines. Good effort.

    Next Steps:

    You can now move to the 250 boxes challenge. You can also choose to practice drawing lines and ellipses to further improve them.

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    5:37 PM, Saturday August 13th 2022

    Hello there, I'll try to give you some advice on your boxes:

    Things you did well:

    • Your lines appear to be fairly straight, almost no wobble to be seen, good job!

    • You applied line weight to the sillhoute of your boxes

    • Your hatching looks tidy and most of the time you hatched the plane that covers the inner corner which helps make the box'es perspective read better

    • You experimented with some extreme foreshortening, which is always good to do in order to see what happens, but improved yourself after that and chose more reasonable vanishing points

    What you can work on:

    • Many of your lines are parallel or even diverging instead of actually converging. It appears you either chose vanishing points that are so far away that the lines appear parallel or you chose the vanishing point to be super close, so the box appears very distorted. Some boxes have a very reasonable degree of foreshortening :)

    • Remember that the degrees in the initial Y should always be >90° so the boxes appear more reasonable

    Overall I can see lots of improvement in your drawing boxes skill, specially the last 50 or so are really well done and way better than the first ones! Your boxes look clean and you put the right amount of time constructing each box and checking your lines for convergence with different colored pencils.

    I would not worry too much about your concern that the back plane is bigger than the front plane, most of the time it just appears that way and isn't even actually true if you look closer.

    Next Steps:

    Good job! You can move on to lesson 2! Don't give up, this is a tough one :P

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    5:03 PM, Saturday August 13th 2022

    Hello there, I'll try to give you some review of your 250 Box Challenge.

    What you did well:

    • Most of your boxes look believable and it appears that you understand the basic concepts of perspective

    • You hatched planes that are on the front

    • Your lines appear to be fairly straight, good job!

    • You did not redraw lines that went wrong

    Things you can work on:

    -Many of your boxes have parallel lines and sometime even diverging lines (https://imgur.com/mWLlnYl). Try to make them converge closer, so pick vanishing points that are on the page itself, that makes the boxes more foreshortened and therefore also easier to ghost your lines towards that point. I did not see a lot of extreme foreshortening, so it might be helpful to at least try to experiment and see what happens as you move the VPs closer to the boxes.

    • In most of your boxes one of the lines from the initial Y is perfectly vertical, so try to get some more variance in the orientation of the Y to make more interesting boxes (the process remains the same)

    • You should take more time doing tidy hatchings, your lines should always start at the edge of one plane and ideally not fall short of the plane. Your hatching lines are falling short on both ends, as if floating somewhere inside the plane. Start at one edge and pull through the plane so it touches the other edge. Don't be afraid to overshoot, as that is still better then undershooting

    • It seems you picked the planes which you hatched randomly, that's totally fine, but some boxes are harder to read than others because of that. I always advice to hatch in the plane that covers the inner corner (that is also the biggest most of the time, although not always, depending in the shape of the box) so there is no confusion which plane is in front of the other

    • You could advance your correction lines a bit further so it get's more clear if and where they actually converge. As mentioned before, some of your boxes have parallel ones or even diverging ones, at least it looks like that, it's hard to tell if there is convergence if it only converges slightly and the correction lines are short.

    Overall I can see improvement in your boxes as you did this challenge and your boxes appear believable.

    Next Steps:

    Next up is lesson 2, have fun and don't give up (it's a though one) as it is sure worth it!

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    4:58 PM, Saturday August 13th 2022

    Hello there,

    I will try to give you some advice on your boxes:

    • Many of your boxes have parallel or even diverging lines, try choosing a vanishing point that is closer to the box or even somewhere on the page, that makes it easier to actually get your lines to converge properly.

    • You should be taking more time constructing your boxes, most of them seem rushed. You extended some of your lines in the wrong direction and crossed them afterwards, don't do that. If a line went wrong so be it, do not redraw or cross over lines.

    • Your hatching is kinda messy, take your time and ghost straight lines from one edge to the other side of the plane, at some boxes you even scribbled a messy line across the plane. Hatching is optional and makes your boxes read better, so if you decide to hatch a plane, do it tidy and take your time. I recommend always hatching the plane that covers the inner corner, that makes your perspective read better

    • Do only hatch in one direction, do not cross over your hatching in multiple directions

    • I see some degree of wobble in your lines, so take your time to properly ghost and plan your lines, only then do a confident stroke from you shoulder, that is even more important to getting the lines right (confidence > accuracy)

    • Your did a good job of identifying mistakes yourself, gave each box it's proper space and used multiple colored pencils for the different directions, good job!

    However there are missing many pages.

    *edit: sorry at first I accidently posted a revision of another person's submission to your profile, however I updated the review, but cannot undo the next steps part, so just ignore that

    Next Steps:

    Next up is lesson 2, have fun and don't give up (it's a though one) as it is sure worth it!

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    4:15 PM, Saturday August 13th 2022

    Congratulations on finishing the 250 box challenge!!

    I've just done my own boxes, and can tell it was quite a marathon : )

    I see you correctly got the basics of this exercise. Your checking lines always extend away from the viewer, and every box has one hatched side, which is really helpful in understanding the orientation of the box.

    Also, the lines of your boxes always converge, which is absolutely correct. And here I noticed that you prefer the dramatic foreshortening. It could be a reason why sometimes your boxes go wrong. For me, it was more difficult to calculate correct angles using dramatic foreshortening. I'd suggest you in your future exercises concentrate more on shallow foreshortening. It could help to understand the lines' interrelations better.

    The second tip that could help you build more correct boxes in the future and better understand 3D space is to change the order of your box modeling, namely to draw the inner corner first, as shown in this instruction https://imgur.com/a/DHlA3Jh.

    And in the end, I should also mention that your lines are pretty wobbly. That's understandable for the beginner and absolutely fine at this stage. The best way to improve them is to use the ghosting method regularly and watch yourself to keep drawing by the shoulder.

    Overall you did a great job!

    Go ahead and keep practicing!

    Next Steps:

    Go to lesson 2.

    Your personal warmups recommendations:

    • keep doing ghosting line exercise;

    • build 1-2 boxes in shallow foreshortening;

    • build 1-2 boxes when the inner corner goes first.

    (feel free to combine all recommendations in 1 warmup session or do it separately)

    Take care of yourself. You're doing great!

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    2:48 AM, Saturday August 13th 2022

    Hello PencilPeach, I will try my best to give feedback for your lesson 1 because this is my first time. I'm sorry if my English is crappy. Hope this helps.

    Superimposed Lines

    Lines look pretty good, but I see that some of your lines have fraying on both ends on the bottom of the pages.

    Should place the pen carefully at the start of each line.

    Ghosted lines and planes

    For both of them, I’ll say you did a fine job. I see no wobbling lines and repeated lines for the ghosted planes. Only one minor problem for your ghosted lines is that few of them curve towards the endpoint in some spots.

    Ellipses

    Ellipse tables: You did really well keeping the ellipses kept within the bounds. Nice to see them touch each other, without overlapping.

    Funnels: Good job trying to keep them aligned to the central minor axis line. The only mistake I see is the ellipses are not inside the funnel shape. Take your time keeping them inside the funnel shape.

    Boxes

    Plotted perspective: Looks good but some of the boxes have sketchy lines. Also be careful with your lineweight.

    Rough perspective: I don’t really see any mistakes.

    Organic perspective: Very good. Be careful with your line weight for a few of them, don’t make it too dark.

    Rotated Boxes: Very good finishing this difficult lesson. The only mistake I see is that your few boxes aren’t rotating at the bottom right.

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