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    9:05 PM, Sunday August 16th 2020

    great that you resubmitted, it was a great improvement and good show of commitment, keep checking those horizontals. I'm gonna give you a pass, be sure to keep doing the warm ups and youll be solid in no time.

    Next Steps:

    go on to the 250 box challenge

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    11:36 AM, Tuesday August 11th 2020

    Thank you! this is extremely helpful :)

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    3:15 PM, Monday August 10th 2020

    Hi I hope you are having a good day, I will just bullet point the critique for you

    Rotated Box challenge

    you seem to have struggled with this and the boxes dont really have much rotation, this is fine though as most if not all people fail this aspect of lesson one, just come back to it later when you have more experience.

    Organic Perspective

    you havent really changed the scale or angle of the boxes for this challenge, and also some of the boxes are deformed. Try to keep in mind the vanishing points for each box, this will be better grasped after the 250 box challenge.

    Rough perspective

    you really need to ghost your lines for this, this is the reason there is a lot of diverging lines and each box doesnt go back to the same vanishing point.

    plotted perspective

    looks good


    try to keep the degree of the ellipse consistent for this challenge, it will make it easier to touch all four points cleanly

    also maybe ghost the lines a bit more so the stroke is more confident and consistent.

    Ellipse warm up

    pretty good effort, just ghost more and try to get the ellipses to touch the adjacent ellipses consistently.

    ellipses in planes

    try not to lift the pen off or vary the line consistency when drawing through your ellipses. Be more confident and commit to the line, it doesnt matter if you make a mistake.

    Also the lines used to construct the planes are bending and arcing. Remember, plot your points before you draw the line, draw with a quick consistent line and if you miss the dot it doesnt matter, better to have a straight line that is wrong than to have a bent line.

    Point to point and superimposed lines

    same problem as when constructing the planes. You need to ghost more, and look at the point you are trying to meet as you draw through. Practicing this will eliminate the fraying lines and bends/ wobbles in your line.

    I think if you repeat these warm ups daily and complete the 250 box challenge then you will improve your rough perspective and other problems.

    Next Steps:

    repeat the warm ups. especially the point to point and superimposed lines.

    attempt the 250 box challenge.

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    2:59 PM, Monday August 10th 2020

    Hi, hope youre having a good day. This is a great submission. Honestly if I said anything about your motor skills it would just be nitpicking. The rotated box challenge is a bit of a problem though. It seems you have used more or less the same vanishing points for a lot of the boxes and not actually rotated them. This is fine though as this challenge is supposed to be extremely hard and most if not everyone fails at it. The 250 box challenge will help with the rotation of the box anyway. I would say you have passed this lesson quite easily.

    Next Steps:

    -250 box challenge.

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    2:52 PM, Monday August 10th 2020

    Hi, Hope youre having a good day. Ill just bullet point areas of improvement for you.

    -your lines are quite wobbly and lack confidence throughout this lesson. Remember, consistency and fluidity of line are the most important, follow your line through with a strong stroke, look at the end point as you draw through. If you overdraw the line, this is fine, if you miss the line it is better to miss with a strong straight line rather than curve it back towards the desired end point. Draw them with a strong quick stroke, being slow will cause wobbly lines.

    -practice drawing through with the elbow and the shoulder with intention for different lengths of line, the longer the line the more shoulder movement there should be.

    -ghost your lines more in order to get more accuracy. This will help with the fraying you have in your superimposed line work, and also going back to your vanishing point in the rough perspective.

    -ghost your lines more in order to get more consistent ellipses, they seem to be bulging or been shaped. it is better to overlap ellipses in attempt to have them touch than deform them.

    -On the funnels you are deforming the ellipses in order to get them to touch the lines, its better to just make ellipses of consistent degree but increase scale in order to meet the edges of the funnel.

    -you seem to lack understanding of the box form and they are becoming deformed when you attempt to rotate them. I suggest that you just practice by drawing boxes using vanishing points.

    -the rotated box challenge is hard, dont worry about it for now, come back to it when you have more experience.

    Overall a decent effort.

    Next Steps:

    I suggest you keep doing this lesson for a while until your line quality and consistency improves. I would also just keep doing the kind of drawing you enjoy and use this as a warm up. The motor skills and basic understanding of the box form are most important for the 250 box challenge and the following lessons. Submit again when you personally feel you have made some significant improvement. These exercises are good to just get you to pick up a pencil everyday so, perhaps do a couple of the exercises each day before you begin drawing or just before you go to bed or when youre on the phone or something.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    2:31 PM, Monday August 10th 2020

    Thanks Birdhair, Im gonna work on getting more adventurous with the angles. Do you have any advice on getting the convergence of the back corner lines to consistently converge? or is it just doing it until it gets more accurate?

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    2:54 PM, Tuesday August 4th 2020

    It seems a bit rushed, I would suspect you've not been ghosting your lines or placing dots to plan your boxes and paths. It seems dumb but it is really important to follow this step. Make sure ellipses are touching the lines that bound them in space, try to apply your point to point lines with more confidence. If you miss you miss, its more important to have a confident straight line than one that meets the other dot bang on. Take care with the superimposed lines as they seem to just be place arbitrarily as they fray considerably on both ends. I would say you've rushed the rough perspective one as the lines are extremely wobbly considering the short distances on each edge when compared to much longer distances in your point to point warm up. Also, the boxes are more like rhomboids, remember horizontals and verticals are straight lines in 1pt perspective. You also have edges diverging, which suggests you're not ghosting enough to the Vanishing point you have in mind. On the rotated perspective drawing, the boxes aren't very consistent in size, you also haven't rotated them very much, however this is a hard exercise which everyone struggles with so I wouldn't repeat it.

    In summary, I advise you redo the rough perspective and take much more care, and also work on your straight line warm ups a lot. Other than that, this is a great effort.

    Next Steps:

    Redo the rough perspective exercise. Take more care, concentrate on having straight lines and edges that line up, really focus on having lines that converge and make sure you are ghosting them back to the intended VP. Also work on your straight line warm ups more, I suggest you just do a few every time you pick up a pencil or youre doodling on the phone or something, honestly this is where you will feel the most benefit right now.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    2:21 PM, Tuesday August 4th 2020

    Looks good. Few pointers, the rotated box exercise, on the outer boxes they aren't as rotated as much as uncomfortable would like. This is fine though, I did the same thing and this will improve if you decide to do it again in the future. Ellipses, you need to work on maintaining the degree of ellipses when drawing them adjacent to each other, also make sure they meet the lines that bound them in planes or in the funnel. Organic perspective needs work but this will be ironed out with the 250 box challenge so it doesnt matter so much. Your lines are bending on your point to point, to fix this move the pen at the appropriate speed, dont just "go fast" because thats what youre told. Look at the starting point, then the end point and back as you draw the line. It will improve with time. Your perspective drawings with lines extended to the horizon look fine. try not to have the superimposed lines fray on both ends, fraying on one end is fine. I would say you have passed. You need to keep working on these exercises though, just try to fit it in a few times a week if not each time you draw as a warm up. This is actually a really good outcome and you should be proud of everything you have done here.

    Next Steps:

    I advise you do the 250 box challenge next.

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    7:56 PM, Monday August 3rd 2020

    I havent completed this course yet but I have done other stuff and gone through the dreaded "how to draw" book, so heres my take on it for what its worth.

    You begin drawing as if you are feeling the form as you draw across the surface of objects, have in mind that the centerlines and lines of action often represent the axis of an ellipse that give you the volume of a form. Gesture and structure need to become a way of seeing as well as a way of thinking. Whilst the technical ability to perform these lessons and tasks can be done quite quickly, the realisation of how it applies to drawing in other situations can take some time and is just about pencil mileage and beginning to make connections between these teachings and other things you have learned. for a long time it feels like you are learning little bits of things that are unrelated but at some point there will be clarity where you can see the synergy of all the learning and efforts coming together in your art. If you have experience in figure drawing you will probably have felt the frustration of learning gesture drawing, and then learning construction/anatomy and being held back by the limit of your knowledge in either of both topics and having to go back and forth between the two approaches until you can advance in the other. This is very much like that, learn the principles and have it in your pocket as you push forward and eventually you will realise how to apply it.

    In other words, it sounds like you are doing fine, as long as you are drawing with intended goals even when youre just experimenting or messing around in your sketchbook you are probably advancing.

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    4:08 PM, Monday August 3rd 2020

    If you go on gumroad and get Krenz Cushart's how to control angle and proportion in perspective and his how to rotate in perspective lessons (itll cost you 20 dollars) he explains clearly what is happening. I will try to explain it though. All VPs are a distance relationship between the viewer object and horizon line. Basically, imagine your VPs on the horizon line as your rotation of object, then imagine your 3rd vanishing point as the viewing angle of a camera (your eye). all objects in the scene do not work off of the same perspective vanishing points, but they are all related via the ground surface level and the cone of vision. In summary, when you rotate an object left and right, you are turning two lines that meet at a 90 degree corner and therefore moving the points they meet the horizon line (NEW INTERSECTIONS). If you are looking at a 45 degree corner of a box, in plan view it would look like a triangle. If you rotate this through to 45 degrees one of the vanishing points becomes parallel to the horizon line, you are now in one point perspective. continue this rotation and you are back in two point perspective. Think of your 3rd vanishing point as the angle you are witnessing this happen at.

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