Nephele_cloud

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    12:48 PM, Tuesday December 5th 2023

    Hi there, I'll be doing a critique for your 250 Box Challenge submission.

    Congratulations on completing the box challenge, it's definitely a lot more work than most people expect. Not only does it help deepen your understanding of important concepts but it shows your desire to learn as well. Be proud of what you've accomplished and that desire you've shown. That being said I'll try to keep this critique fairly brief so you can get working on the next steps as soon as possible.

    Things you did well:

    • Your construction lines are looking smooth and confidently drawn.

    • You've done a good job extending lines in the correct direction as well as bringing your vanishing points in closer, good work.

    • You're doing a great job of experimenting with rates of foreshortening. Experimenting is an important habit to build when learning any new skill, it helps form a more well rounded understanding. I hope you'll continue to display and nurture this habit in the future.

    Things you can work on:

    • While hatching you want to have both ends of the lines touching an edge of the form they're being drawn on rather than being left floating. Usually when left floating like this it's caused by people hesitating while worrying about accuracy. Remember to take your time to space each line with the ghosting method, and then draw them confidently just like any other line, accuracy will improve with more mileage.

    • Lineweight should only be added to the silhouette of the boxes, and with a superimposed line, one is enough, as it's important to keep it subtle. When doing this superimposed line, it should be done ghosting and drawing it confidently, having it lose accuracy is acceptable, but having wobble is not. As always, confidence > accuracy.

    • Repeating lines- Basically, no matter how off a line is, you should not repeat it, as it will make the drawing messier. All lines have to be drawn by drawing first its starting and ending dots, ghosting it, and drawing it confidently with the shoulder prioritizing confidence over accuracy.

    • I'd like you to experiment with proportions more, mix in some longer/thinner/wider boxes to see how your lines behave in different scenarios.

    • Also, if you're having trouble thinking up orientations for your initial 'Y', you may use this tool - https://tasty-tangy-meeting.glitch.me/

    • There are times when your lines converge in pairs or you attempt to keep your lines a bit too parallel which results in them diverging. This is an example of lines converging in pairs, and this shows the relation between each line in a set and their respective vanishing point. The inner pair of lines will be quite similar unless the box gets quite long and the outer pair can vary a lot depending on the location of the vanishing point. Move it further away and the lines become closer to parallel while moving it closer increases the rate of foreshortening.

    The key things we want to remember from this exercise are that our lines should always converge as a set not in pairs, never diverge from the vanishing point and due to perspective they won't be completely parallel.

    Overall while you did make a few mistakes your boxes are improving so far and with more mileage you'll continue to become more consistent. That being said I'll be marking your submission as complete and you can move on to lesson 2.

    Keep practicing previous exercises and boxes as warm ups, don’t forget 50% rule. Good Luck :)

    Next Steps:

    Move on to lesson 2.

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    4:54 PM, Friday December 1st 2023

    Hi there, I'll be doing a critique for your 250 Box Challenge submission.

    Congratulations on completing the box challenge, it's definitely a lot more work than most people expect. Not only does it help deepen your understanding of important concepts but it shows your desire to learn as well. Be proud of what you've accomplished and that desire you've shown. That being said I'll try to keep this critique fairly brief so you can get working on the next steps as soon as possible.

    Things you did well:

    • Good work drawing your construction lines confidently, this keeps your lines smooth and prevents wobbling.

    • You're doing a great job of experimenting with orientations, proportions and rates of foreshortening. Experimenting is an important habit to build when learning any new skill, it helps form a more well rounded understanding. I hope you'll continue to display and nurture this habit in the future.

    Things you can work on:

    • While hatching you want to have both ends of the lines touching an edge of the form they're being drawn on rather than being left floating. Usually when left floating like this it's caused by people hesitating while worrying about accuracy. Remember to take your time to space each line with the ghosting method, and then draw them confidently just like any other line, accuracy will improve with more mileage.

    • Line weight isn't a requirement of the challenge but I do recommend practicing it in your future attempts. It's an incredibly useful tool but one that people often require a fair bit of mileage before they feel comfortable applying it. The sooner you start to build up that mileage the sooner you'll see better results.

    • Extending lines in the wrong direction- When applying the line extension method, lines have to be extended away from the viewer. A way to make sure you do this correctly 100% of the times, is to always extend the lines away from the centre dot of the Y, as shown here: - https://imgur.com/iNpIubA

    • There are times when your lines converge in pairs or you attempt to keep your lines a bit too parallel which results in them diverging. This is an example of lines converging in pairs, and this shows the relation between each line in a set and their respective vanishing point. The inner pair of lines will be quite similar unless the box gets quite long and the outer pair can vary a lot depending on the location of the vanishing point. Move it further away and the lines become closer to parallel while moving it closer increases the rate of foreshortening.

    • Also, if you're having trouble thinking up orientations for your initial 'Y', you may use this tool - https://tasty-tangy-meeting.glitch.me/

    The key things we want to remember from this exercise are that our lines should always converge as a set not in pairs, never diverge from the vanishing point and due to perspective they won't be completely parallel.

    Overall while you did make a few mistakes your boxes are improving so far and with more mileage you'll continue to become more consistent. That being said I'll be marking your submission as complete and you can move on to lesson 2.

    Keep practicing previous exercises and boxes as warm ups, don’t forget 50% rule. Good Luck :)

    Next Steps:

    Move on to Lesson 2.

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    11:34 AM, Saturday November 18th 2023

    It says 250 box challenge but you submitted lesson 1 homework…. Kindly check ;)

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    7:35 AM, Thursday November 16th 2023

    Hi Melelo, I'll be doing a critique for your Lesson 1 submission.

    You did really great job and followed instructions pretty well but there are things to look out for -

    LINES

    Arching Lines - Sometimes the lines will arch a bit which are common in this case it can be fixed by trying to arch consciously to the opposite direction.

    Wobble in lines - In Ghosted lines exercise i don’t see much confidence in your lines, I think you are focusing more on accuracy.

    Don’t worry about matching end point... always prioritize confidence over accuracy.

    ELLIPSES

    Ellipses must be drawn through ellipses 2 to 3 times, (2 times preferably) (In Ellipses in planes and funnels )

    https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/a76a8906.jpg

    In Funnel exercise most of the ellipses are overlapping ellipses should be kept within the bounds and touching each other, without overlapping.

    BOXES

    Plotted perspective exercise

    In 1st frame the back corner lines are missing and in 3rd frame you didn't draw lines through boxes.

    Try to overlaps boxes for better understanding its totally okay if lines going through boxes don’t worry about it.

    Rough perspective exercise

    Just keep it in mind width lines should be parallel to horizon and height lines perpendicular to horizon.

    Repeating lines. No matter how off a line is, you should never repeat it, kept the line as it if were correct and move on.

    Rotated Boxes

    looks like they actually rotating Good!!

    Organic Perspective

    Looks Great to me I think you are having trouble in understanding Line weight

    Line weight should be added with confident ghosted lines, and solely to the part of lines to overlap, not to whole lines.

    Please remember to apply the ghosting lines method when drawing the boxes.

    Add this lesson in your warm-ups dont forget about 50% rule

    I believe the 250 boxes challenge should set things right for these problems so as long as your mindful of not repeating them again and take the time to improve :) Feel free to ask anything.. Hope this critique is helpful.

    Next Steps:

    With that, I congratulate you on finishing Lesson 1! Your next destination should be to complete the 250 boxes challenge. Best of luck to you and try to enjoy the process :)

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    5:11 AM, Monday October 30th 2023

    Hi SHYPENGUIN,

    Yes i did have a hard time in texture analysis and form intersection exercises Well, I will do my best to get better in that while doing warm-ups.

    Thank you:)

    7:45 AM, Saturday October 21st 2023

    regarding the user agreement, do I really need more of user agreement to continue to the next challenge, or can I continue without it?.

    Its optional and for badges, you can continue.

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    7:37 AM, Saturday October 21st 2023

    Hi, I am agree with the critique i also think you did a great job in most of the exercise but i am going to add some points you should keeping in mind while doing warm-ups :)

    Funnels

    As for drawbacks, I see the minor axis not splitting the ellipses in two equal halves on some of the ellipses.

    Rough Perspective

    From what I can observe, some of your horizontal and vertical lines are slanting. Since we are dealing with one point perspective in this exercise, all horizontal lines should be parralel to the horizon line; and all vertical lines should be perpendicular to the horizon line. Lastly, use ghosting method then draw lines as much you needed.

    Here's a personal recommendation that might help you understand how vanishing points work in perspective and how it behaves as an object rotates; it can also help you in the upcoming 250 boxes challenge so I believe it's worth a watch in addition to what is taught in Drawabox.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkp1xfWJ9n4

    Organic Perspective

    The drawbacks I see, is that on some tables, the farther box is bigger than the actual box that is closer in space to the viewer, which can cause some confusion, so do bear in mind the direction and flow of the boxes.

    Next Steps:

    You can move on !! Your next destination is to complete the 250 boxes challenge. Good luck and try to enjoy the process :)

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    9:34 AM, Thursday October 12th 2023

    Hi Armoo,

    Thank you for taking your time to critique my work. I'll keep in mind and try not to repeat the things you mentioned.

    So excited to move on to lesson 2 :)

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    6:35 AM, Monday October 2nd 2023

    Hello! I'll be doing a critique for your Lesson 1 submission.

    LINES

    Superimposed Lines

    Very good! There is little to no fraying on the starting points and on some of the ends of the lines. While doing this exercise with longer lines makes it harder to end at a consistent point; in lines, confidence is more important than accuracy, which I feel is also prevalent in yours.

    Ghosted Lines

    Good work on being able to successfully connect the starting and ending dots on some of them! Some of the lines may not have landed on the ending dot and/or have a very slight shakiness or arching, but I can feel some confidence in those line strokes; which is more important here than accuracy.

    Ghosted Planes

    You submitted same exercise as ellipses in planes.

    The same minor issues from your ghosted lines are also there. But overall its Good!

    ELLIPSE

    Table of Ellipses

    Very good! you were able to keep some of the ellipses touching each other and keeping it within the bounds of the table, with little to no overlapping. But ellipses must be drawn 2 to 3 times, (2 times preferably)

    Ellipses in Planes

    Some of your ellipses in planes go past being drawn through 2-3 times, which makes it harder to distinguish the actual ellipse, and sacrifices the confidence in the lines of the ellipse.

    As for accuracy, it's pretty good. Since the majority of the ellipses fall into the middle points of the plane, or with just a little overlap.

    ( however please do work on the confidence of your ellipses by possibly doing this exercise as part of your warm ups when you draw )

    Funnels

    Good work on keeping most of the ellipses within the bounds of the funnel!

    As for drawbacks, the only major things I see, is the same issues with the prior ellipse exercises, wherein you go beyond 2-3 passes on your ellipses. Along with the minor axis not splitting the ellipses in two equal halves on some of the ellipses.

    BOXES

    Plotted perspective

    Magnificent! This is clean and surely taken the time when this was done!

    Good work on overlapping some boxes together to get a better sense of space as it will help in the later lessons!

    Rough Perspective

    From what I can observe, some of your horizontal and vertical lines are slanting. Since we are dealing with one point perspective in this exercise, all horizontal lines should be parralel to the horizon line; and all vertical lines should be perpendicular to the horizon line. Lastly, use ghosting method then draw lines as much you needed.

    Here's a personal recommendation that might help you understand how vanishing points work in perspective and how it behaves as an object rotates; it can also help you in the upcoming 250 boxes challenge so I believe it's worth a watch in addition to what is taught in Drawabox.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkp1xfWJ9n4

    Rotated boxes

    Magnificent! the boxes feel as though they are rotating, and you are able to have that spherical effect. The only thing I can see that would be concern, your downward rotating boxes and upward corner boxes, you seem to have trouble on them all boxes should be close to each other you drew them so far.

    Organic Perspective

    The drawbacks I see, is that on some tables, the farther box is bigger than the actual box that is closer in space to the viewer, which can cause some confusion, so do bear in mind the direction and flow of the boxes. And I see the same problems from the rough perspective on your lines. Please remember to apply the ghosting lines method when drawing the boxes.

    I believe the 250 boxes challenge should set things right for these problems so as long as your mindful of not repeating them again and take the time to improve :)

    Next Steps:

    With that, I congratulate you on finishing Lesson 1! Your next destination should be to complete the 250 boxes challenge. Best of luck to you and try to enjoy the process :)

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    2:06 PM, Friday September 29th 2023

    Hello! I'll be doing a critique for your Lesson 1 submission.

    LINES

    Superimposed Lines

    Very good! There is little to no fraying on the starting points and on some of the ends of the lines. While doing this exercise with longer lines makes it harder to end at a consistent point; in lines, confidence is more important than accuracy, which I feel is also prevalent in yours.

    Ghosted Lines

    For your ghosted lines exercise; Good work on being able to successfully connect the starting and ending dots on some of them! Some of the lines may not have landed on the ending dot and/or have a very slight shakiness or arching, but I can feel some confidence in those line strokes; which is more important here than accuracy.

    I can notice some slight arching on your lines which are common try to purposely drawing the line at the opposite direction of where you tend to arch the line.

    you can review this back on the ghosted lines video or on the lines section for Lesson 1.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkJG6pKTuRc

    https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/3

    Ghosted Planes

    I like how you tried to fill up as much space as you can but same minor issues from your ghosted lines are also there. But overall its Good!

    ELLIPSE

    Table of Ellipses

    Very good! you were able to keep some of the ellipses touching each other and keeping it within the bounds of the table, with little to no overlapping.

    Ellipses in Planes

    Some of your ellipses in planes go past being drawn through 2-3 times, which makes it harder to distinguish the actual ellipse, and sacrifices the confidence in the lines of the ellipse.

    As for accuracy, it's pretty good. Since the majority of the ellipses fall into the middle points of the plane, or with just a little overlap.

    Funnels

    Good work on keeping most of the ellipses within the bounds of the funnel!

    As for drawbacks, the only major things I see, is the same issues with the prior ellipse exercises, wherein you go beyond 2-3 passes on some of the ellipses

    BOXES

    Plotted perspective

    Magnificent! This is clean and surely taken the time when this was done! I think most of the boxes looks same size .. try different size and overlapping some boxes together.

    Rough Perspective

    Same issues from lines exercise, However it looks good to me.

    Rotated boxes

    Magnificent! the boxes feel as though they are rotating and you are able to have that spherical effect.

    Organic Perspective

    The drawbacks I see, is that on some tables, the farther box is bigger than the actual box that is closer in space to the viewer, which can cause some confusion, so do bear in mind the direction and flow of the boxes. And I see the same problems from the rough perspective on your lines. Please remember to apply the ghosting lines method when drawing the boxes.

    Add this lesson in your warm-ups and 50% rule is hardest for me too but its worth it do. Participate in Promptathon its great for 50% rule.

    https://drawabox.com/announcement/JERR0WL2

    I believe the 250 boxes challenge should set things right for these problems so as long as your mindful of not repeating them again and take the time to improve :)

    Next Steps:

    With that, I congratulate you on finishing Lesson 1! Your next destination should be to complete the 250 boxes challenge. Best of luck to you and try to enjoy the process :)

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