Mikky3

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    11:06 PM, Saturday March 26th 2022

    Hey ! Thanks for your critique :)

    First, the new page of ellipses in planes is in the same link (First position https://imgur.com/a/sGGROEm). Tell me if you don't see it.

    So i tried to go a little faster with my ghosted lines and force myself to not correct lines which don't touch the ending point. Then, as you explained it before, i saw that i miss understood a little bit the exercice. This time, my ellipses should be more regular i hope.

    By the way, for the rotated boxes, i didn't draw trough the box in the corner cause it was a little to messy and i had trouble to see trough it. I don't know if it's important or not. Finaly, thanks for the tips of line weight ! I will practiss this too when i work in perspective.

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    10:42 PM, Wednesday March 16th 2022

    Hey, i'm a beginner too so i'll try my best to give some advices !

    Super Imposed Lines : I feel like your movements are to fast, so you literally go off the page. In this case, try to slow down just a bit so you can stop but not to much. The point isn't to loose your confidence. If not, maybe try to start from the other point. For example, i'm right handed and i usually start on the point the most on the right so i can see where i'm going. If it's not any of this problem, in any case you need practice

    Ghosted Lines : For the majority, it's the same problem. Your lines go to far. Maybe you're not turning well your page/ don't have the right angle for your shoulder. Actually i can't know so you tell me about that i'd be glad to help ! :D

    Ghosted Planes : Theses planes are clean. You got the right angle, i can tell that you're very confident, that's good !

    Planes of Ellipses : There is nothing much i can say. You're aiming for the best ellipse. The ones who touch each side. Practice will solve all your problems !

    Table of Ellipses : I would suggest that you try doing more flatten ellipse. Again, you're trying to improve and because of that sometimes your ellipses goes further, sometimes they're to short. This point a side, for me, it's a good start !

    Funnels : Remember that your ellipses much touch each others. Except that, checking the alignment between the middle and your ellipses before drawing could be good for you.

    Plotted Perspective : Nothing to say about that, it's clean :)

    Rough Perspective : Here the correction (i just did the first one) https://imgur.com/a/Nb8VyzT the orange is ment to signifie that you need to have a correct square before starting with the vanishing point. It's not only about your ligne but also your points. If you are already confuse with the first step, the next one qui going to be harder than it should. The red only shows the bigest mistakes (i didn't picked all mistakes)

    Rotated Box : Same as plotted perspective, i do not see big mistakes. Good job ¯_(?)_/¯

    Organic Perspective : You draw again an again the same lines. I suppose you wanted to correct your lines but by doing this you forgot the fact that "it's ok to miss this exercice because it's hard" and you lost a part of your confidence. The result is that it's hard to tell which line belong to who. Also, you could have exagerate the size of some boxes (bigger or smaller). All this things apart, go back on the correction i did (same link). The red only means that you have to imagine a vanishing before finishing your cube. I can tell that some of them with never converge. Green only means that your way of trying is the right one.

    Conclusion : You were very confident in the first exercices, keep this mindset ! In spite of all that I have been able to write, the only thing you need to improve is your lines. With it, everything will be easier. Stick with this method: think about where you want to draw a line, then draw 2 dots and after you can put down your pen on your paper.

    Some words to cheer you up : it took me 1 year (drawing 3 or 4 times a week before drawabox) to draw straight lines with the right angle ! And i think, if you draw each day, minimum 10 min, you'll get it in less than a month. :)

    Ps: Sorry for my english i'm doing my best :D

    Next Steps:

    As a warm up you have the choice. You can try again to do Ghosted Planes, Rough Perspective, Rotated Box, anything that will train your lines.

    If you planned to do the 250 box challenges, i suggest that you only 1 page of Rough Perspective since you didn't do correctly the exercice the first time. You weren't able to see your mistakes so it's nice for you to do it again.

    If you don't want to do the challenge, 1 page of Organic Perspective and this time, take your time.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    9:04 PM, Wednesday March 16th 2022

    Hey, i'm a beginner too so i'll try my best to give some advices !

    Super Imposed Lines : Your lines are very confident, you got the spirit.

    Ghosted Lines : You mostly keep this confidence so don't loose it ! Even if you miss, don't forget that your lines must touch the second point and not go further. As i see, sometimes you don't have the right angle, did you try to rotate in different way your paper ? Or maybe start at a different point. In any case, some practiss and you're good !

    Ghosted Planes : If i only check the lines, you did some progress. However i think (it's my opinion for this thing) you should try to draw more extreme planes. For example : some angle should be between 15° and 40°. It may forces you to focus on one single line while there's mutiples lines around.

    Table of Ellipses : For the majority, i would say that : sometimes you're out of the table, sometimes you're in. I thinks there's nothing wrong in it since you clearly looking for to get used to the movement of the shoulder. Keep working on it you got this !

    Funnels : Your ellipses are pretty regular and there's nothing much i can say about that. You can still try to get the degree of your ellipses to increase as you move outwards from the center. But like the lesson said, it's optionnal so you did well :)

    Planes of Ellipses : I can't tell if it's hesitation or an other problem but on very hard angle you struggle a lot. I'm not worried about that either because over time you will succeed

    Plotted Perspective : optionnal : Maybe you can try to flatten some cubes so you can see how they act with the vanishing point. You can also move the horizontal line lower or up for the sames reasons.

    Rough Perspective : From my point of view, you need to do more ghosting lines before actually put down your pen on your paper. If you still struggle with it, i suggest that you watch more plotted perspective (you don't have to do them), then use your finger, hand or arm as an indicator (like a ruler). It will probably help you to imagine the line. Tips : once you draw the first square, look if the bottom of the cube has the same form. If the front is a square but the bottom is a flat cube, there's a problem.

    Rotated Box : Actually, you understand this exercice and what to do. My suggestion would be to imagine an circle or ellipses as the box rotate. If the results should look like a circle, then imagine a circle in your mind. But your fine so you don't need to do this exercice again right now.

    Organic Perspective : I'm going to be honest, i don't know what to say because i find this exercice very difficult. I'm sorry to say that i will ask someone else for a critique :x But anyway, the 250 box challenge can really help you !

    Conclusion: you got the right mindset and mostly need practiss and a little work on your imagination. Keep trying, i believe in you ;)

    PS: sorry for my english, i did my best.

    Next Steps:

    As a warm up, do some ghosted planes so you work on your lines and. If you really want to work on it, i would request 1 extra page or a half. Don't forget to draw mutiples variations of planes ! ;D

    After your warm up, i suggest you to do 1 more rough perspective. As usual, imagine the line like you're used too then use your hand or arm to check. It will help your imagine each line without actually drawing it. You'll see if you mostly have the right angle. Warning ! Use this method only to verifie the angle and remember it is just suppose to help you imagine the line without a ruler. Because you're not using a straight "tool", it forces you to work by imagination.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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