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    1:19 AM, Friday December 3rd 2021

    These look a little better, but it still seems a little rushed. Some of the ellipses look open. I'll mark you as complete, but you might want to do this for warmups and focus on slowing down while drawing confidently. Feel free to continue the 250 box challenge.

    Next Steps:

    Continue 250 box challenge.

    Continue table of ellipses for warmups.

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    1:48 AM, Wednesday December 1st 2021

    Hey, great work on completing the challenge!

    Overall, nicely done. Your linework looks confident, and your boxes look well put-together. There were a few more instances of dramatic foreshortening, which you recognized. I would just make sure to practice shallow foreshortening in future warmups to make sure you can visually the vanishing points being further away.

    Another thing I noticed is that you struggled a bit with the back corner, which is also something I struggle with occasionally. This link here kind of helped me with it: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725744395718230146/725745452691095643/How_draw_a_box.png. Feel free to give it a look if you are interested.

    Finally, make sure to vary the size of your boxes and go a little bigger. As you move into the future lessons, you will have to deal with larger subjects to draw, so it is important to understand how to confidently draw larger objects and still maintain good perspective.

    I think you are good to move on to the next lesson. Great work!

    Next Steps:

    Move on to lesson 2.

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    1:22 AM, Wednesday December 1st 2021

    Hey there! Good job on completing lesson 2!

    Arrows: These arrows look confident, and you were not afraid to cross over. However, there is a lack of perspective in your arrows. Remember that Uncomfortable mentioned that he wanted us to convey perspective with the arrows by varying size from one end to the other. This usually means drawing what you want to be closer to you as bigger, and drawing what you want further away as smaller. Another thing I noticed was that the shadows tend to be inconsistently placed on your arrows. One thing that helps me is to figure out which part of the arrow is over or covering which. The part that is being covered will receive the shading since it is getting the shadow from the overlapping part. I would recommend looking over this section once again and practicing this as warmup. You will have to do this section again in lesson 3, so make sure you grasp this section.

    Organic Forms: The organic forms look confident and fine to me. However, when it comes to the ellipses, you missed one of the key things Uncomfortable mentioned: don't have them floating arbitrarily. Make sure that the ellipses are touching the ends of the organic form similar to how you did it in the funnels exercise. It seems that you varied the degrees of the ellipses well, so I would encourage you do redo this page again and review this section to get a better understanding. As for the contour lines section, it looks fantastic as is. I would encourage you to do these as warmups.

    Texture Analysis: In the first sections of each texture, you understood the exercise well. In the second section, while you grasp the idea of making notes, sometimes it might help to draw out demonstrations of the shadows. For example, for wood, you mentioned "constant dips and cracks." Maybe drawing an example or two of that in that section may help you in the third section. As for the third section, it looks a little incomplete. I think you grasped that the shadows should taper off as you get to the right side, but it seems that the shadows taper too soon. Plus, on the left side, the shadows should blend seemlessly with the black bar, such that you can't tell that there is a black bar. This is a little easier said than done. One thing I might suggest is trying to invert the shadow at the beginning and then converting it to the normal shadow texture near the middle. Since you will have to do a 25-texture analysis challenge later, I would not worry about doing this again, but I would re-read this section and prepare yourself for this challenge. If you want, you can start it now, or you can start it later. I would recommend starting it sometime soon while you are either redoing the exercises here or doing the next lesson.

    Dissections: Your dissections look really good and you managed to make some of them pop off of the form itself. Ideally, you would want to do about five sausages per page and have 4-5 textures per sausage. I don't think you need to redo this, but this would be even more reason to delve into the 25-texture challenge early on to grasp how to convey textures better.

    Form Intersections: This is probably the most challenging exercise in this lesson, so it is okay to struggle with it. Your forms look confident, but I am having trouble seeing how they intersect. It seems that the intersections are either very shallow (sometimes even just face-to-face for some forms) or they curve around the other form (like the cylinder around the sphere on page 3). I would recommend redoing three pages of this exercise, and start off with just boxes. In fact, if you still feel confused after doing one page of boxes, feel free to do all three pages with box intersections. This is fine, too. I'll also link a pack of form intersections for you to look at: https://m.imgur.com/a/6Inx5Bz. You can look over it and see how different forms interact with each other. This helped me a lot, and I'm sure it can help you.

    Organic Intersections: Your forms look very confident, and some look like they are placed pretty well. However, some look a little stiff, like the second big sausage on page one. Also, looking at it, some sausages look incomplete, but it could be that I have trouble understanding where the sausage begins and ends. I would recommend darkening the outlines of the forms as they go over another form to make it clear which form is in front. Also, keep in mind how shadows work on these forms. I noticed on page one that for the second big sausage, the shadow is floating above the first big sausage and not conforming to it. Shadows will fall onto the surface below it and conform to it. I would recommend incorporating this into your warmup so you can better grasp this exercise

    Overall, nice work, and there is still a little more work to be done. I would recommend redoing the ellipses section of the organic forms and three pages of form intersections. Once you complete that, you can submit them here again through this submission and I'll try to check on them. Also, make sure you do arrows and organic intersections as warmups. They will be handy for the next lessons.

    Next Steps:

    1 page of organic forms: ellipses section

    3 pages of form intersections

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    12:28 AM, Wednesday December 1st 2021

    Hey there! Congrats on finishing lesson two!

    Organic Arrows: These arrows look nice and confident. You weren't afraid of letting it overlap, and you even got experimental on some. There are some instances where the shadows are inconsistent. You show shadows on one crevice and then another down the arrow that should instead be a light spot. It's easy to get lost in this exercise. One thing I found helpful is that wherever there is overlap, imagine that the part of the arrow that is doing the overlapping isn't going to be shaded. It's the other one, because it will be catching the shadow of the first part. I don't know if that made sense, so feel free to let me know if that is confusing. The only other thing I would suggest for future warmups and to explore size and perspective a little more. You did it on some arrows, but others looked like the same size throughout.

    Organic Forms: Good job on this exercise. Starting with the ellipse section, you did well in making sure you differ the degree based on the orientation of the ellipse in the organic form. Plus, you did well in trying to keep the ellipses in the forms. One thing to keep in mind is that some of your ellipses look misaligned. One example is the form in the middle right. All the ellipses seem to slant to one side. I think this works on the upper half, but on the bottom half, the last two ellipses should differ in degree to show that they are also turning inside the form. Looking at the contour lines section, you did better in differing the degree. Make sure to keep that in mind in future warmups.

    Texture Analysis: I think you understood this exercise quite well. Good work on capturing the different textures. One thing to note is that in the future, there is a 25-texture challenge that is in the form of texture analysis. The reason I say this is because in the third boxes of each texture you did, the black bar is supposed to blend smoothly into the texture so that you can't tell that there is a bar. In all three instances, especially the last texture, you can tell there is a black bar and then the texture starts. I'll be honest, I have made that mistake as well, and sometimes, I'm not quite sure how to remedy it. I think more shading at the beginning that conforms to the shapes you pointed out in the first two sections can help. Kind of like an inverted version of the shadows. Try that out in the texture analysis challenge and see if that helps.

    Dissections: Once again, great work. I think you understood this exercise, and I can see that you made sure to allow the textures to flesh off the form itself instead of just sticking to it like, well, a sticker. There were a few bald spots (mainly the inside ellipses), and I would encourage you to try to fill those up as well. You don't have to redo it, but if you feel like trying a texture for warmup in the future, feel free to go back to those bald spots and try it.

    Form Intersections: This is probably the hardest exercise in this section, and you managed to do well on it, too. Not only were you confident in your drawings, but you practiced correct hatching and darkened lines where they needed to be darkened. One thing I did notice was that most of your intersections were shallow, in the sense that they don't dig too deeply into the forms themselves. You still got them mostly correct, but in future exercises, you will see that you will need to push those forms more closely. I would encourage to do this exercise for your future warmups, especially as you head into lesson three. I don't know if you already have this tagged but here you go: https://imgur.com/a/6Inx5Bz. This link goes to a pack of form intersections and shows how each couple of forms can interact with each other. Feel free to explore it and try it out yourself during warmups.

    Organic Intersections: I think you did alright here, too. Your forms look a little bit stiff, so remember to conceptualize how these forms will slink onto the larger sausage. While they will curve more than likely, it is also about how they curve. Will it be a shallow curve or a deep curve? As far as shadows go, you did well here. There are a few misplaced shadows, like on the bottom right of the first page, so make sure that you understand where the floor is in your drawing. Feel free to practice this for warmup as well.

    Overall, nicely done. I have no problem with you going into the next lesson. Make sure to practice these exercises for warmups during the next few lessons, though. They are key for understanding how to draw in the constructional lessons.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to lesson three.

    Continue all exercises for warmup.

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    12:09 AM, Wednesday December 1st 2021

    Hey there! Congrats on completing lesson 1. Here's what I think:

    Superimposed Lines: You did well in making sure you started at the same spot for most of the superimposed lines. I do notice a bit of fraying on both ends, so make sure to be careful and start right where you started. I also noticed that as you draw out the superimposed lines, they seem to skew away from the original. While you should not aim for perfection in this exercise, you still should aim to get close to the original line as best as possible. One thing I would recommend is slowing down a bit while doing this exercise. You don't want to be going too slowly that you are wobbling while drawing, but you want to go at a steady and confident pace. Also, I would push you to do some curved lines. They don't have to be complex, just a simple curved line or a C or an S, and attempt to superimpose that. This will be harder than straight lines, so don't expect to get very close to the original, but it can help give you confidence when it comes to other exercises in the future that deal with curves. I would encourage you to incorporate this in your future warmups.

    Ghosted Lines: Your lines do well in intersecting both points, and I don't detect too much wobbliness in your lines. However, I do see some arching of the lines, so make sure that you keep using your shoulder to draw. Another thing I noticed was that your lines are mostly short. As you go more into this exercise, you will have to deal with several different sizes of lines. Make sure that when you do this exercise for warmup in the future that you vary the lengths of the lines so you can get experience on how to deal with that.

    Ghosted Planes: This is where varying your lines' length comes into play, and I think you did well in that. There are some instances of overshooting and undershooting. One of the things that Uncomfortable mentions is lifting your pen off as soon as you get to your destination. This will come with time, so keep on practicing. I do also see some arching and wobbling, so as with the ghosted lines, make sure your strokes are confident and done with the shoulder.

    Table of Ellipses: I can see that you only drew through your ellipses twice; good on following those instructions. There is some wobbliness with the ellipses, as well as open shapes, so continue to work on drawing them confidently and steadily. One thing that I would ask you to delve into more is different sizes and orientations of ellipses. In this exercise, you are encouraged to explore different shapes and sizes of ellipses. I got hints of that in your exercises, but I only see three or four different orientations. I would encourage you to do two more pages of this exercise again, and this time incorporating different degrees of ellipses in each section and drawing a little more slowly, but confidently. Vary between very skinny ellipses to very fat ellipses (essentially circles), too.

    Ellipses in Planes: Similar to the table of ellipses, make sure that you continue to confidently draw through your ellipses. There is some wobbliness and openness in them. Plus, you want to aim to have the ellipses touch all four sides of the plane as best as possible. You managed to do that with most of them, but there were some that overshot or undershot the target. Make sure you take your time with them as you are drawing them during your warmups.

    Funnels: You did well in making sure the ellipses were aligned, but it seems that a majority of them were too loose in this exercise. In some instances, they peek outside of the funnels, and in others, they are intersecting other ellipses. Once again, perfection isn't necessary, but you want to still aim to stay steady and keep the looseness to a minimum. I would recommend doing this exercise again and taking your time to tighten up your ellipses and keep them in the funnels as best as you can. It's okay if not all the ellipses stay snug inside the funnel or if they intersect a little, but still aim to do your best in that. One other thing: continue to work on the confidence of your ellipses. While you don't draw over your ellipses too many times, there are a lot of instances where they seem open or wobbly. This will get better with time, but make sure you are drawing with your shoulder and not going too fast.

    Plotted Perspective: You did really well on this exercise. I think you understood how to use 2-point perspective. To take this exercise to the next level in future warmups, I would recommend going over the main box outline to highlight the object over all the lines. Sometimes, with all the lines in place, it becomes difficult to make out what we need to focus on, and this will make it easier on the viewer's eyes. This will also be important in future exercises, so feel free to practice this now.

    Rough Perspective: This is one of the harder exercises, and I think you did well on this. You tried different box sizes and different perspectives, and you understood the exercise well. There is a bit of wobbliness in the lines, so continue to work on confidence. Also, when you are doing this for warmup in the future, make sure to only do 4-6 boxes per panel. This will make it easier to view how the boxes relate to the horizon. In your exercises, the amount of boxes crowded the panel, so it was a little harder to tell which lines belonged to which box.

    Rotated Boxes: Probably the hardest exercise in this module. It seems that you did the best you could here. You made a good effort on rotating boxes. One thing to keep in mind is that there are some inconsistent gaps between your boxes. I won't make you do this exercise again, but as you go into future exercises, keeping gaps consistent makes it easier for the viewer to infer space and perspective. Another thing I noticed is that some boxes (primarily the ones of both ends) are not completely drawn in. This will be important in the 250 box challenge, but make sure to draw through your boxes so you can understand if it makes sense in 3D space.

    Organic Perspective: You did alright on this exercise, but I think you missed a key point of it. One of the main ideas is to play with perspective by varying the sizes of the boxes. It seems that in the beginning of each panel, you start off well by making the boxes bigger, but as they taper off, you stop getting smaller at a certain point. This is where varying the sizes of your lines and boxes come into play, so you can better communicate perspective. You don't need to redo this exercise, but in future lessons where size and perspective come into play (especially in the constructional lessons), keep this in mind.

    Overall, nice work on the exercises. I would encourage you to slow down a little while doing the warmups and continue to draw confidently. Also, in future exercises, try not to crowd the page. Aim for about the same amount of figures that Uncomfortable places at the end of each exercise. For now, I would redo two pages of the table of ellipses. Once I check that and it looks good, I think you are ready to move on to the 250 box challenge.

    Next Steps:

    Redo:

    2 pages of table of ellipses: vary degree of ellipses and work on steady, confident ellipses

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    9:18 PM, Saturday November 13th 2021

    Hey there! Congrats on finishing lesson 1.

    Superimposed lines: I think they look good. You are very confident in your strokes, and I see minimal wobbling. One thing I do see a little bit of is fraying on both eyes. This doesn't happen a lot, but keep in mind to make sure you are starting at the same spot when doing this exercise.

    Ghosting Lines: Once again, excellent work on confident strokes. While there are instances where you miss the dot, that is no problem at all. In fact, I was just doing the exercise today as warmup and still miss the dot occasionally. The main goal is to have confident strokes, and you are doing well with that.

    Ghosted planes (and ellipses in planes): These look fine as well. You took care to only draw through ellipses twice or thrice. The lines look mostly confident, too. There are some instances where the lines wobble, so make sure to keep your confidence and draw from the shoulder.

    Table of Ellipses: You did a wonderful job on confidently drawing through your ellipses. You also did well in varying the degrees of your ellipses, and you can push it even further. One thing I notice is a lack of very thin degree ellipses, such that you can fit ten or more in one cell. In future warmups, I would do that, as well as practice more wider degree ellipses (essentially circles).

    Funnels: Great work on this exercise. Your ellipses look confident, and you made sure that the center line split all the ellipses in half. One thing I did notice was that there were occasions where the ellipses were either spaced out slightly or they went overlapped into another ellipse. This will improve over time. Just make sure that in future warmups, you have the ellipses tightly close to each other.

    Plotted Perspective: The boxes look pretty solid here. You made sure to draw from the vanishing point, and the lines look confident. One thing you can do to push yourself further is to add line weight to the boxes after you finish connecting the lines. This will come up later in Drawabox, but it is very important to distinguish the main figure from all the background. That way, the viewer has an idea of what to focus mainly on. Also, adding hatching lines can help gain an idea of perspective, so feel free to do that if you want.

    Rough Perspective: Like you said, this exercise feels like it takes a lot a guess work. I still wouldn't say that I'm the best with it, but it does help as you go into the 250 box challenge. Make sure that you are still confidently drawing the lines. I noticed that there were more instances of wobbling in the lines making up the boxes. Also, make sure to plot back to the horizon for all your boxes. I'm assuming on the first page of the exercise you forgot, since you did it on the second page. Just remember that this gives you an idea of how your estimate of perspective is. Overall, nice work on doing this exercise.

    Rotated Boxes: I think the final product looks great. This is definitely a challenging exercise that once again makes you focus on perspective. Continue to be confident in your line work. Also, make sure you are drawing through all of your boxes. There are a couple of boxes on the lowest level that are incomplete.

    Organic Perspective: You nailed this exercise. Your line work looks mostly confident. I get a good sense of scale with how you vary the sizes going into the page, as well as how you overlap boxes. Keep up the great work.

    Overall, I think you are ready for the 250 box challenge. The challenge will...well, challenge your way of perspective. I would suggest doing the plotted perspective and rough perspective as warmups for this challenge, but make sure to keep all of these in your back pocket. Good luck!

    Next Steps:

    Continue to 250 box challenge.

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    6:02 PM, Thursday August 19th 2021

    Thank you so much! I'll definitely try to work better on line quality.

    8:13 PM, Saturday July 3rd 2021

    Thanks! Really appreciate the resources.

    6:19 PM, Thursday July 1st 2021

    Awesome! Everything looks good there. You are free to move on to the 250 box challenge. Thanks!

    Next Steps:

    Move forward to the 250 box challenge.

    Incorporate previous lessons in warmups.

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    4:22 PM, Thursday July 1st 2021

    Hey Hitomi! Nice work on your homework. Here are my thoughts:

    Lines: Excellent work all around. I think the superimposed lines look incredible. I can tell you took great care to keep from fraying lines on both ends, and that is impressive. For ghosted lines and ghosted planes, I think you did well on these exercises. There are some occasions where you wobble, so make sure you are using your shoulder as a pivot. When you practice ghosted planes as a warm up in the future, I would make sure to vary the size of planes and practice with longer or wider planes.

    Ellipses: Overall, your ellipses look fantastic. The table of ellipses are great. They look confident. You vary their sizes very well. It seems like you had a lot of fun with this exercise. The ellipses in planes also look great, too. Similar to the ghosted planes, I would warm up by practicing more longer and wider planes so you can have more experience with various sizes of ellipses. The funnels look remarkable as well. I don't see any loose ellipses; the line bisects them well. Plus, they look confident. I think overall, you are really good at the ellipses exercises.

    Boxes: The plotted perspective looks fine to me. There are a couple of instances where you missed the back edge of a box. Don't worry about redoing the exercise for this lesson. Just make sure to keep this in mind when you are doing warmups of plotted perspective. Rough perspective shows promise. You are mostly confident in drawing your lines, so I would continue to do that. As you could tell from the red lines, there are some instances where you miss the vanishing point by a wide distance. That's to be expected of this exercise. The goal isn't to be perfect, but to understand perspective a little better as you are moving forward to the 250 box challenge. The same goes for all the box exercises. I think you did well with the rotated boxes and the organic perspective in understanding perspective a little more. One thing I would like to mention is that in organic perspective, I did not see much rotation of the boxes as they tapered off into the distance. It seemed more like they were rocking. As you are doing the 250 box challenge, I challenge you to draw boxes in different orientations. Overall, great work!

    All-in-all, I think you did well with lesson one. You are free to move forward to the 250 box challenge. For warmups, continue to focus on confident line strokes, as well as solidifying your understanding of perspective. Some exercises that will do that are ghosted planes, plotted perspective, and rough perspective.

    Next Steps:

    Move forward with 250 box challenge.

    Incorporate ghosted planes, ellipses in planes, plotted perspective, and rough perspective into warmups.

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