KertVegas

First off, your superimposed lines look good, which isn't a surprise, really, I mean, it's pretty easy. Some of your sharper curves do have some minor wobbling, and it seems to me that you might've focused a bit much on accuracy there. Remember to do your best to make one, decisive stroke of your pen when making a line. Accuracy isn't the first priority, remember--it's still important, of course, but not as much as having a good, clean line, at least in this course.

Ghosted lines look good. You're pretty accurate and smooth with the lines here, so that's good.

Your ghosted planes have some minor wobbling in the lines, I notice. Your ellipses here look good for the most part, but there are still a few that also have some wobbly lines in them. Your accuracy is nice, but remember that it's second priority to smoothness. I'll say the same about your tables of ellipses, too, as there is some wobbling in a few of them. I shouldn't be too hard, though, since most of them look alright, and of course, ellipses are just difficult to begin with anyway, so you're off to a good start at least.

Your funnels look good, you've done well at widening the ellipses here as they get further out. Plotted perspective is nice and clean in all aspects, good work there. You've done your rough perspective nicely as well, though again, there's some wobbly lines in there.

Both your rotated boxes and organic perspective pages are done cleanly. Good work on that. I'm not actually experienced enough to really tell how good of a job you did on the rotated boxes, but you did make them very clean and symmetrical, and it looks very believable, so nice work there. Your organic perspective boxes also have very good linework, though they are a little off on a lot of their foreshortening and all.

Remember this: if something (such as a box) is either very big, or just closer to your viewpoint, its foreshortening will be more dramatic. Objects further in the distance, or objects that are just smaller, will have less dramatic foreshortening. Most of the boxes in your organic perspective, both close and far, seem to have mostly the same foreshortening, which sort of downplays the depth of the scene. I don't think this is very important for the organic perspective exercise itself, but it is very good to keep in mind for drawing in general.

You've done a pretty nice job at Lesson 1, overall. You did seem to focus on accuracy a bit much in most cases, but that seems to have gotten better with your organic perspective boxes. You'll get better with ellipses, too, with practice. Just remember: confidence first, accuracy second. You'll get some good practice with box foreshortening in the 250 Box Challenge.

Hi there,

congratulations on finishing the 250-Box-Challenge and thanks for submitting, I'll be reviewing your homework. I hope my feedback helps you.

Your work reveals that you had put a lot of focus, energy and time in completing the challenge. Your work came out beautiful, well done!

I structured this critique as follows:

the praises (what you did well) and where you went off and should keep an eye on in the future. In the end I'll give some general pointers/reminders, so you don't forget them

THE PRAISES ( The job you did well in the challenge)

You always drew through your forms and understand how they sit in 3D. Nicely done

You did a great job checking for your mistakes by checking the boxes convergences by extending the lines always from the viewer. You identified where it went wrong and worked on it.

You are able to construct the boxes of various types with different orientation, proportion and foreshadowing with good amounts of convergences. So hats off for that!

I can say that you are building a sense of confidence and patience in drawing your boxes by plotting down the starting and end points of the lines before executing, so thats good job!

If you are concerned about accuracy, I will advise you to leave it there for some time and prioritize confidence first. After we build some confidence, we can work on some accuracy as well.We prioritize confidence and draw lines from our shoulder without thinking about any accuracy there. Our lines will look solid and more appealing, even though they are in inaccurate. Also don't repeat inaccurate lines and try to correct them. It just wastes time where you don't learn anything.

You hatched the face of the box facing towards the viewer. You took you time doing so and ghosted them thoroughly. Same goes for adding line weight around the silouehette. Well done.

WHERE IT WENT SLIGHTLY OFF? ( Where you should keep an eye on)

In this part I will just point out where it went slightly off. In the coming part I will explain how to avoid them and how you can improve them. I made this part because it will remind us where we are going wrong and it will thereby make us conscious about our mistakes while drawing those boxes.

Of course you had improved throughout the challenge but there are times where some of the set of lines converges at a faster rates than the others resulting in converging in pairs. this point you can definitely work on, in your warm ups.

According to the rule of perspective, all the parallel lines in the 3D world (real world) will appear to converge to a specific VP (vanishing point) on a 2d page. SSo what we can say is that our parallel lines should always converge as a set and not in pairs. They will never diverge from the VP as this will break the rule of perspective. So next time, instead of drawing parallel lines in the boxes, try to consciously think that the parallel lines in the 3d world of box will always converge to a specific vp. These vps can either be staying inside the page (creating more dramatic/foreshadowed boxes) or outside of it (creating shallow boxes) https://imgur.com/mWLlnYl

It's completely and totally normal to have the back corner line slightly off compared to the rest. You should try and work on those as well. They have significantly improved at end of your work, so nice job!

In this challenge, we are estimating where our lines going to converge to a point. As we are humans, it is almost impossible to perfectly estimate where our lines will going to converge thereby resulting in an error. This error will continue to accumulate as we construct the box freely rotated in space. Finally this accumulated error will be thrown to the back corner. So its pretty normal to have the inner back corner come out pretty off.

I want to take a look at this info here; https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png

In this image we can know that how each line will behave relating to the position from its neighbouring edges and the VP. If the distance between the internal edges and external edges gets reduce more and more they will eventually become parallel to one and another. Alternatively if the distance between the internal corner and the external grow more and more the internal line will also converge. You can also try and start from the back corner if the box is narrower. https://imgur.com/a/DHlA3Jh

These diagram can be pretty hard to understand at first, so if you don't understand it, don't get frustrated, keep reading it from time to time while practicing regularly and it will click eventually.

SOME GENERAL STUFF I WISH SOMEONE HAD REMINDED ME BACK THEN

I would highly advise you to include boxes in your warmups and construct 1-2 boxes daily. After some time you will see how your boxes get better and better.

Remember the 50% rule. This challenge takes a lot of time and effort and you'll burn out/lose motivation if you don't do something for yourself as well.

You didn't do this, but I still want to mention this: don't erase wrong lines/draw correct ones over top. If your line is incorrect, mark the correct ending point and draw the rest of your lines correct (you don't learn anything correcting lines, so it just wastes time)

Take your time with the exercises. You'll learn a lot more if you take your time. DaB in general is a marathon and not a sprint. It really helped me to set my goal to "draw x minutes each day" instead of "draw x boxes a day". The amount of boxes you manage during that time will increase the further you get. It also helped me to do DaB at a specific time slot each day.

We all know this challenge was very intimidating. Constructing 250 boxes arbitrarily rotated in 3D is hard and yet you did a great job by keeping persistent till the end with lots of effort, focus, energy and time, well done! Your submission reveals that you did take time to read through the lesson materials, followed the instructions and executed to your best of your ability.

Feel free to move on to lesson 2 and good luck in your artistic journey.

Hello I’ll be handling the critique for your 250 Box Challenge.

Linework

-You are using the ghosting method to get smooth and confident lines while maintaining good accuracy, but the first thing that jumps at me is that you tend to repeat your lines, remember if you make a mistake leave it like that and do not try to correct it by drawing on top of it, as it only makes the mistake stand out more, make sure you are giving each mark as much attention and focus as it requires to avoid this issue. By getting rid of this habit you will start to develop the patience and discipline necessary to do your assignments to the best of your ability.

-When you tried to correct some of your mistakes by drawing on top of them, you unintentionally applied lineweight to the internal lines of the box, avoid this at all costs, as it breaks the cohesion of the form. Take a look at this diagram which shows how to correctly apply lineweight, you can also see it applied on a box here.

-Lastly, I can see that you did not apply hatching, it is not a necessary requirement, but it helps to clarify the orientation of our box in 3D space, the thing to keep in mind when applying it is that you should ghost each additional line so that you can draw it to the best of your ability, this way it will look more tidy and it won’t create a lot of visual clutter.

Box Construction

-You have used the line extension method correctly for all of your boxes, and most of your sets of lines converge which is correct. Just keep an eye out for lines converging in pairs as shown here, the more you practice the better you will get at this and eventually your lines will converge in sets rather than pairs, also I want to quickly redirect you to this diagram which shows the relationship between each pair of lines and the angles they form respective to their vanishing point. The inner pair of lines will always be quite similar, and the outer pair can vary a lot depending on the location of the vanishing point, the further away you put the vanishing point the outer pair will be almost parallel but not fully

-I want you to keep experimenting with the rates of foreshortening, it seems to me that you have stuck to boxes with dramatic rates of foreshortening, so try boxes with more shallow rates, with the vanishing points outside the page.

-Lastly, I want you to keep experimenting with the orientation and angles of your boxes, I did notice that you had a tendency to draw very similar boxes. If you have trouble coming up with new orientations, take a look at this image and use it as reference, but do not try to copy them.

Okay, I want to make sure that you can draw your boxes without repeating your lines, so I’ll leave you some additional work, good luck.

1. Lines

Superimposed lines

• lines look good, no wobble, fraying on only one end, there's some curving when the lines get longer but i believe that's normal

Ghosted lines

• lines are not as straight, there's some curving and wobbliness. Seems like you were trying to not overshoot or undershoot and ended up slowing your lines trying to reach the correct point. It's better to be confident rather than accurate at this point.

Ghosted planes

• lines look good, very accurate and most are very straight.

2. Ellipses

Table of ellipses

• some ellipses are drawn through over 4 times, try to stick to 2-3 times

• majority of ellipses are within bounds, however I do see some floating ellipses in the second page

Ellipses in planes

• some ellipses are drawn through 4-5 times, try to stick to 2-3

Funnels

• Funnels look good, most of them can be cut in half

3. Boxes

Plotted perspective

• looks good

rough perspective

• looks good, width and height lines look good. Line correction method looks good

Rotated boxes

• rotated boxes look good, the boxes are rotated and the gaps are kept close

organic perspective

• looks good, but noticed that you didn't draw through the boxes when they overlapped.

Ghosted lines exercise seemed a bit wobbly but it definitely seems like you kept confidence in mind through the rest of the exercises (your ghosted planes look really good). For ellipses, I see some that were drawn through 4-5 times, try to ghost more and then draw through 2-3 times. But overall good job! It's my first time giving critique, hopefully it helps you!

Hello Trajectory!

Welcome to the community! Hopefully my knowledge and feedback can provide much of use to you!

What I think about your submission:

• Excellent work on the Superimposed Lines, practically no fraying on the starting end of the lines and curves.

• Ghosted lines do show a lot of wobbliness and seem to be thinning out towards the opposite end of the starting dot. This can be a result from drawing the line too fast or lifting your hand off the paper. Confident lines are prioritized throughout the lessons, even if that means slightly missing your dot. Lines should be consistent with pressure from one point to another.

• Great job on your Ghosted Planes exercise, you followed along with plotting dots on each corner of the plane, which also means you're continuing to use the ghosting method. You don’t repeat any of your lines which is a good sign and are connecting the dots more often. Slight wobbliness which can be a result from hesitating a little and/or trying to connect the dots. Nonetheless, shows massive improvement from the Ghosted Lines exercise.

• Great job on the Ellipses Table, showing confidence on the ellipses and little to none overlapping which means spacing is also done pretty well on the table with only a couple of gaps.

• The Ellipses in Planes exercise, you do have some of the ellipses frayed and even going outside of the planes, but little to no wobbliness in your ellipses which is great. I recommend ghosting more or slightly slowing down your shoulder.

• Your Funnels exercise seems to be fraying like the previous exercises and slightly more wobbly than the others, but your ellipses do cut in half well because the minor axis goes straight down the middle, which also means your placement is great.

• Rough Perspective boxes seem to have a lot of wobbliness but your perspective lines are pretty accurate.

• You seem to get the concept down for Rotated Boxes, but of course it is hard to create perfectly straight lines and boxes while having to think a lot about the perspective.

• Excellent work on the Organic Perspective, you really nailed down the flow and sizes of the boxes. Only complaint is that your lines curve a little bit for the boxes which is understandable since the boxes are tiny, but can be improved.

Overall showing massive improvements with each exercise. Hopefully I was able to provide you with all the feedback and critiques to help you improve your drawing skills and knowledge. :)

Sorry for the first critique. I was talking to someone else, and we determined that redoing all the ellipses is too much. I revised the feedback so that it suggests working on ellipses as a warmup. Feel free to move to the 250 box challenge. Apologies once again.

Hey, I just looked over your submission. Overall, very great work. There are a few things I would like for you to work on.

Lines: You put some great effort into your lines. The superimposed had some fraying on both ends at the beginning, but the second page showed improvement. The ghosted lines and planes are mostly good, but there are a few instances of wobbliness. Make sure that you are using your shoulder as a pivot when drawing lines. And even if you feel that it will miss the dot, go for it. A confident line that missed the mark looks better than an unconfident that gets to the mark. I think you can shore up on this during warmups with ghosted planes.

Ellipses: You did well in following the instructions. You also made sure to only go through the ellipses twice or thrice. And I can tell that you made sure to keep the ellipses in their guidelines. The main thing I would work on is confidence again. Most of the ellipses look wobbly. As I mentioned before, make sure you are using your shoulder as a pivot. Also, while you do want to aim to keep the ellipses in the guidelines, it is okay if they peek out every now and then, as long as you are drawing them confidently. As you are doing the 250 box challenege, I would also warmup with ellipses. I think ghosted planes with ellipses in planes would be a good thing to incorporate in each warmup for a couple of weeks. Focus on drawing the lines and ellipses more confidently.

Boxes: The plotted perspective looks great to me. There were a few boxes where I couldn't see the back edge, but that could be because it is blocked by the front edge. I don't think that warrants a redo, though. The rotated box exercise looks wonderful, too. A little wobbliness here and there, but I can tell that you put a great effort into it. The rough perspective is a challenging exercise, and I think you understand the concept of it well. However, as I mentioned before, you need to be more confident in your lines. Along with the occasional wobbliness, I noticed that you drawn over lines in some instances. If you feel like you messed up on a line, stick with it as best as you can. It feels like instinct to "correct" it by drawing over it, but resist it as best as you can. As for organic perspective, I think you grasped it well enough, but remember that perspective can also be communicated by overlapping of the boxes. I didn't see a lot of that in the exercises, but you don't have to redo it. Just keep that in mind as you move on.

Overall, this was an excellent submission. Go on forward with the 250 box challenge, but I would warmup with ghosted planes and ellipses in planes, as well as with plotted/rough perspective to help with the challenge. You don't have to do a full page of all of these: just maybe a half-page of planes and ellipses and the other half of whichever perspective you want to work on. Continue the great work; I know you will go far in this course!

Please disregard this review. I posted an updated version that does not suggest redoing the ellipses. Apologies for the confusion.

Hey, I just looked over your submission. Overall, very great work. There are a few things I would like for you to work on.

Lines: You put some great effort into your lines. The superimposed had some fraying on both ends at the beginning, but the second page showed improvement. The ghosted lines and planes are mostly good, but there are a few instances of wobbliness. Make sure that you are using your shoulder as a pivot when drawing lines. And even if you feel that it will miss the dot, go for it. A confident line that missed the mark looks better than an unconfident that gets to the mark. I think you can shore up on this during warmups with ghosted planes.

Ellipses: You did well in following the instructions. You also made sure to only go through the ellipses twice or thrice. And I can tell that you made sure to keep the ellipses in their guidelines. The main thing I would work on is confidence again. Most of the ellipses look wobbly. As I mentioned before, make sure you are using your shoulder as a pivot. Also, while you do want to aim to keep the ellipses in the guidelines, it is okay if they peek out every now and then, as long as you are drawing them confidently. As you are doing the 250 box challenege, I would also warmup with ellipses. I think ghosted planes with ellipses in planes would be a good thing to incorporate in each warmup for a couple of weeks. Focus on drawing the lines and ellipses more confidently.

Boxes: The plotted perspective looks great to me. There were a few boxes where I couldn't see the back edge, but that could be because it is blocked by the front edge. I don't think that warrants a redo, though. The rotated box exercise looks wonderful, too. A little wobbliness here and there, but I can tell that you put a great effort into it. The rough perspective is a challenging exercise, and I think you understand the concept of it well. However, as I mentioned before, you need to be more confident in your lines. Along with the occasional wobbliness, I noticed that you drawn over lines in some instances. If you feel like you messed up on a line, stick with it as best as you can. It feels like instinct to "correct" it by drawing over it, but resist it as best as you can. As for organic perspective, I think you grasped it well enough, but remember that perspective can also be communicated by overlapping of the boxes. I didn't see a lot of that in the exercises, but you don't have to redo it. Just keep that in mind as you move on.

Overall, this was an excellent submission. Go on forward with the 250 box challenge, but I would warmup with ghosted planes and ellipses in planes, as well as with plotted/rough perspective to help with the challenge. You don't have to do a full page of all of these: just maybe a half-page of planes and ellipses and the other half of whichever perspective you want to work on. Continue the great work; I know you will go far in this course!

Hey,

Your lines and ellipes looks good ,ellipes can be improved be confident and go for it

now coming to perespective you could do better, try doing rotated boxes again