Groovin

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    12:51 PM, Sunday April 5th 2020

    Okay, I'm not going to say start over, but I would like to see you revisit a lot of these exercises.

    Lines

    Your superimposed lines need work. Since you've got fraying only at one end, you're starting out fine, but a lot of these tend to miss the mark by huge margin. They don't need to be perfect, but it feels like you're rushing it. You need to try long lines, short lines. Mix it up.

    Ghosted lines got there in the end, but there's a lot of wobbling. Remember to quickly execute your line after ghosting several times. Try to be careful, you're overshooting your lines quite a bit. You need to get in the mindset that the points you're putting down aren't just suggestions. Ghost your line from one point to the other, then execute. You can draw at a different angle if you think it might help.

    Ghosted planes aren't too bad, but try not to repeat lines. Also, slow down. Again it seems like you're rushing through it. Ghost your lines more, as they seem to miss the mark often. Be careful with curving on your lines too. If you have a tendency to curve lines one way, you can try to correct it through consistent practice and consciously curving it the other way slightly.

    Ellipses

    Tables of ellipses is messy. We're not aiming for something super clean, but I just think you were rushing again. Slow down, this isn't a race. You're doing more harm to yourself in the long run. Ghost your ellipses. Draw through them 2-3 times. Really think about what you're putting down, and then execute your ellipses quickly and confidently.

    Ellipses in planes have a lot of wobble. You need to be more confident. There are a couple in there that I think were done well, though.

    Funnels, I think you were getting better with your ellipses by this point. They're still a bit all over the place, but overall, I think better than before.

    Boxes

    Plotted perspective is good. Not really ever much to say about it.

    Rough perspective, I think you're guessing too much with some of your boxes. At least on your first page, I think you just weren't putting down points to ghost to, and your lines and boxes suffered greatly. Again, I think you were rushing through this. As for the second page, it looks like you've gone and ruled out your initial square for each box which you shouldn't be doing. The only time you should be using a ruler is when drawing your horizon line.

    So stop guessing, plot out the points for each box, and don't use a ruler.

    Rotated boxes is a pretty hard exercise. Looking into it, I can see the boxes do indeed rotate in space. Your line quality is pretty messy, so you need to watch for that, but overall it's not too bad, if hard to see. I think where you've put the hatching on inside faces helped with this. Just be careful, don't repeat lines.

    Organic perspective isn't too bad, I think you got the gist of it. A lot of the convergence and divergences in your boxes can be corrected through the 250 Box Challenge. It's not easy to get thrown right into drawing these objects in 3d space, but I think you'll see a lot of improvement.

    Overall, I'd like to see a few more exercises before saying this is complete. You need to work on your lines and ellipses at least. I'll put the details below.

    Just remember to try not rush everything, ghost every single line you do, and then execute that quickly and confidently.

    Next Steps:

    I'd like to see 1 more page each of:

    • Ghosted lines

    • Ghosted planes (you can do ellipses in planes too if you so choose)

    • Tables of ellipses

    • Rough perspective

    After that, I'll mark it complete and then you can move on to 250 boxes.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    8:45 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    Looks good for the most part, but you weren't supposed to draw those to the VP. You needed to draw them on their path to the horizon line like in the example https://i.imgur.com/Q6A3NNi.jpg

    This is to show you where your mistakes are.

    Anyway, just keep it in mind for the future. The boxes look good, just remember in SPP you'll need to be aware of where your lines are going and where they should end, as some lines in the back that should be straight are being forced to meet up with your lines that are vanishing.

    Anyway, I'll mark this as complete. What you can do next is the 250 box challenge, and get a start on lesson 2.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to the 250 Box Challenge and Lesson 2.

    Try to finish the majority of boxes before you get too deep into L2.

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    6:28 AM, Tuesday March 17th 2020

    Let's have a look at your submission.

    Lines

    Looking pretty good, your superimposed lines hit the mark pretty consistently with only minimal fraying. There is some wobbliness to them, but over long lines it's a bit harder to keep it straight in one go. Just keep practicing and your long straights will keep getting better. Your curved lines seem pretty good though. Keep it up.

    Ghosted lines look good too, just try not to stop and start. If you make a mark, and it falls short, don't try to extend it. It's fine to leave it

    Planes look good too, I don't see anything particularly wrong with them.

    Ellipses

    Your tables of ellipses aren't too bad, but a lot of them seem to wobble. Remember to ghost your ellipses, and execute it with a quick confident stroke, drawing through 2 or 3 times. Not much else to say besides that.

    Tables of ellipses look good, but again, it's the same issue with wobbly lines. Confidence is key. Worry less about accuracy and more about a confident line. They seem to get better as you go on, so it may just be a warming up thing.

    Funnels aren't too bad, the axis line up pretty well, and the degree changes seem pretty consistent. Just remember your ghosting.

    Boxes

    Plotted perspective looks fine, never really much to say about it. You've taken each boxes lines correctly to each VP.

    Rough perspective looked like it was a bit tough at first, but as you went through it seems to improve. Remember, don't rush, ghost your line to the VP and draw you line to where you need it. There's no issue with taking your time.

    Rotated box looks pretty good too. You've got some nice lines and even added in the line weight it seems. One thing you can do as well is add hatching to make the visible faces stand out. No real complaints, it's a tough exercise, and I can see the boxes rotating well, and not just vanishing to the same VP.

    Organic perspective looks mostly fine. I'm not sure if it's the line weight you added, or the original line, but either way you need to draw your line with a quick confident stroke. Some of them seem to wobble significantly.

    Confidence, not accuracy for now.

    Your second page of this seems to get better at this. So I'm sure you get it.

    Also I don't think you had to draw all sides of the box for this exercise, but it's that big of a deal to me.

    I think that's it for now. I'd say your done and can move on, but keep in mind.

    • Draw quick, confident lines

    • Be careful with your line weight as the same rule applies

    • Remember to ghost a few times before drawing a line

    Next Steps:

    Move on to 250 Boxes.

    Keep in mind my points. Ghosting, and confidence.

    You'll have plenty of time to get this down.

    Good luck.

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    10:59 PM, Monday March 16th 2020

    Cool, thank you again.

    I'll have to try adjusting the sausage shape in future, I wasn't sure how to go about it without it looking too scuffed.

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    11:57 AM, Monday March 16th 2020

    Superimposed lines look fine. There's a bit of wobble and fraying, but it looks like you handled that as you went on, so no real issue.

    Ghosted lines could do with some work though. Some lines overshoot, and some don't seem to even start at the position you set down. Just make sure to relax, and place your pen down at the starting point, and then execute your stroke. I'd also say, that if you do this more as a warm up, try to fill your page more. It's kind of bare. You don't need your lines to cross over either, especially if you've got plenty of space.

    Your ghosted planes are okay, but again remember to start at the point you put down, ghost your line and then do it. I don't know how you're doing them, but try to draw the 4 sides first then do the cross in the middle. The way some boxes seem to line up, looks like you're doing one or two sides then a crossed line between them.

    Remember to ghost, until you feel confident, then confidently execute your line.

    With your table of ellipses, you've done a pretty decent job, again though remember to ghost a few times and drew through 2-3 times. It seems like you got the hang of it with your ellipses in planes, so I won't go on too much.

    Funnels look good. Some wobble, and some don't quite touch each edge, but I'd say good.

    Not much really to say about plotted perspective. Everything lines up with each VP.

    Rotated boxes looks great. The lines are clean, and your hatching makes it pretty clear what's going on in the image.

    Some lines around the far sides seem a bit off, but I'd say you did pretty well for this exercise.

    Your organic perspective isn't too bad, but I'd say in future try to have less boxes with only two faces showing and more with three. The 2PP boxes get pretty samey, and you're not getting as much mileage out of every box drawn like this. Keep this in mind for the 250 box exercise.

    Overall it's looking pretty good, but you are missing the two pages of rough perspective. I'll add that as a revision, and then I guess we can mark it as complete.

    Just remember to take it easy, don't rush, ghost your lines and do things confidently.

    Next Steps:

    Add your pages of rough perspective and we're all good

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    10:04 AM, Monday March 16th 2020

    I'd mostly agree with this, but I want to add that the rotated box is a bit too messy, I think brought on mostly by missing the mark on adding line weight from the looks of things. It's just hard to read, and I think a bit more clarity will help with this, and future exercises.

    I think in future if you do this as a warmup, or general exercise, add hatching in addition to line weight, to further bring out which faces are showing.

    Be careful with your line weight, and don't rush.

    It's not an easy exercise, for sure, but keep going.

    7:54 AM, Monday March 16th 2020

    https://imgur.com/a/yF3QO34

    Thanks for your critique, I really appreciate it.

    Had a look at the organic intersections video again, and I feel like I got it a bit better this time. Probably rushing too quickly to end the lesson the first time. Added in shadows this time, and I think it looks a lot better.

    Form intersections in general kind of went over my head, to be honest.

    Had another look at sausages again too, but I think I'll have to add more to my warmups.

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    5:43 AM, Saturday February 29th 2020

    Lines look ok. Just remember to ghost, and execute a quick confident stroke. You still have fraying, but since it's at one end, you're taking your time to start at your starting point.

    However, in ellipses in planes, you seem to start and stop short at times of your points. Not a huge issue, but it's leaving you with open forms.

    Ellipses in planes and tables of ellipses look ok. You have a lot of wobble at times, so same thing applies. Ghost your ellipse, execute it, and follow through a couple of times quickly and confidently.

    Not much to say about plotted perspective or rough perspective. Plotted perspective lines up nice. Rough perspective has some wobbly lines, but there's not much else to say that I haven't already. When you do hatch though, remember to ghost, as long as it's confident, and you're making a mark with intent.

    Rotated boxes looks good. It's a tough one. I think you need to hatch the inside planes that are stick out, but it's not a huge deal.

    Organic perspective looks good too. There's a good progression between box sizes. Just remember to close out the forms. Try not to start and stop short.

    Next Steps:

    Looks good. I'd say move on to 250 boxes and lesson 2.

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    2:18 PM, Saturday February 1st 2020

    Lines are good. Already identified things like fraying and wobble.

    Planes look good. Full page and varied. Again, slight arcing is identified already.

    Tables of Ellipses look good, though they do stray out of the boxes. Ellipses in planes is good, and generally tends to stay within the plane, but some kind of fall short.

    Funnels don't always align, but generally seem to be good.

    Plotted perspective looks good, line weight and hatching are on point.

    Rough perspective boxes look fine, and tend to get close to the VP.

    Organic perspective boxes transition from large to small smoothly and well.

    Next Steps:

    pls to be moving on.

    i know your discord role is far beyond this but I felt I had to attempt a critique.

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