G4rinuun

No worries! Good luck on the next lesson!

Hi, thanks for the quick reply!

Thank you for the encouragement and support from the critique! I was a bit anxious about the result and was happy that at the very least I was going to the right way. When you said that a curve felt wrong but actually correct, and you said portrait, I remember how much easier or doable it is to do body construction with actual construction behind it rather than just copying. Thank you for helping me to push through with the revision!

As for the midpoints, part of why I didn't put during the constructions was because I thought the extra lines might cause more confusion. But I understand that I think I could have put those midpoints to make it easier for me to freehand the ellipses with ghosting method. Thank you again for reminding me of the first lesson ellipses in a plane. I will incorporate it during my practice as I tackle harder challenge.

Thank you for the offer regarding ellipses, I will keep that in mind if I do have the time :D

Thanks again for leaving a critique! I wish you luck on your drawing journey!

Hi,

Here is the link for my revision: https://imgur.com/a/ZdhZgIO

Thank you for the very detailed feedback! I remember throughout the exercise that I was a bit confused on how to actually use a ruler to extend the subdivision to another plane. It's been so long since I used actual ruler that I ended up giving them up a bit throughout the exercise, so I apologize for the weird lines. I also wanted to apologize for the circle or curves, I couldn't find like the ellipses that had the size that was good for that particular shape. I did ended up finishing lesson 7 and have used what I can to draw this revision for lesson 6.

I also wanted to thank you about your explanation on the way you do form intersections. Making the object as some sort of planes made things easier for me to understand. I ended up having a better understanding when I did lesson 7. At the time of doing lesson 6, I was a bit more confused as to why the line was drawn that way because I hadn't not had a proper refresh of how things are done.

I wanted to apologize if there are still some distortion on the revision, mostly because I'm not really that good when it comes to visualizing things before it was put on the paper. I know that throughout the lesson, the creator was trying to teach us to be aware of every line put, but it is hard for me to visualize how the line would look before I put it in on the actual drawing. While I have done a more proper orthographic, the more complex object would often distort weirdly when I tried to mimic the angle of the reference photo that I use. In the end, I felt like I was trying to determine whether to use the orthographic or the reference I had, usually I decided with a compromise.

Not to say that reference is always right, you can see on the controller that the further bumper was super distorted while the closer one was a bit more solid. This happened because I tried to do bumper / trigger more based on the reference while it would have been more better if I chosen to prioritize the orthographic that I had laid out. By the time I had realized that it didn't work, the line was already made, and so I would need to adapt from there. These small mistakes would later build up and would cause a larger distortion. So for me, it's more of an exercise of working with the limited knowledge / skill I have and try my best to adapt between the reference and what I understood. It is a fun experience, but at times I would only know that the line I did could be better after drawing the bad lines. This is my explanation as to why some of the drawings on the revision is littered with subdivisions lines or curves that ended up being ignored, as a better curve nearby had been found :D

Thank you for writing those feedbacks! Hopefully the revision is better! If there is anything else I need to fix, do let me know! Hope to hear from you soon!

No worries! Good luck on future course :D

Hi,

For the cactus, the hair on some of the cactus was not attached to the cactus and I just want you to be aware of these tiny details. It's just a very small feedback and is more related to the mindset of making sure that each lines are deliberate choice.

As for the Spathiphyllum, it was not that you have any mistake, I think the drawing looked a bit flat as there was no sense that the petals of the flower curve the center of the flower. The white petal felt like it flatten the image and my advice is to seek other reference image so maybe you can draw out part of the plants that make it looked a bit more three dimensional. The reference I put on the imgur was just me trying to give example that different lighting may reveal something more about the shape of the flower. It is a pretty hard flower to communicate the shape through in 2d drawing, the only way I could think of would be to to use a different angle, but for what it was worth, I think you did a decent job on it :D

No worries, good luck on your drawing journey :D

Hi Hi, today I will be critiquing your 250 boxes challenge :D

First 50

From what I see, the furthest corner of the boxes (one that is inside the box) seems to be the one where you had the most difficulty. But most of the time, it's been consistently close or mitting the exact spot. The second, smaller mistakes that I see as a pattern is that you seem to have difficulty drawing the sides of the boxes. Some of the lines extension made it so that they are a bit way off from the point where they met.

It's been a while since I have done this challenge, but I felt like some of the vanishing points are too close to the box. I saw that during this section you are supposed to have dramatic foreshortening, but I see that some boxes like 43-45 felt that one of their corner is pulled too strongly giving the illusion that the box is distorted. I do not know how close is too close for this section, but I just wanted to point that out.

Overall, the line extensions have been hitting the vanishing points that you have set up on the paper.

Next 50

The consistent pattern I see from this part is you kept drawing the boxes near to the pages, essentially eliminating one of the vanishing points from being properly assessed. From like a quick glance, it might look like it is converging, but without being given a bit more room, it is hard to judge whether the line extensions are close or meeting with one another. The other two vanishing points that are available usually meet in similar place.

I also saw that the convergence would often split into 2 parts. Especially if the box has a higher height compared to it's width. For this case, the line extensions usually are split into 2 pair, the top pair that converge in one direction and the bottom pair with their own convergence.

I also see that you seem to have an almost consistent miss with the line extensions coming off from the side of the boxes. Which is a very rare problem, because usually people have difficulties middle corner (the one inside the boxes). From what I see, the consistent pattern is that the two middle corners were converging or almost parallel to one another (which is what the creator used to help those who have this problem https://imgur.com/8PqQLE0) but the sides furthest away from this middle corner tend to have a wider angle which tend to not converge.

The next 150

Most of the feedback I have given for this part came from the Next 50 sections, especially the first and second paragraph. I can say that most of the time your convergence does meet together, making the boxes stable. I do see a lack of dramatic foreshortening during this part, mostly because your prefer to have shallow foreshortening outside of the pages. Some more variation would be nice, especially if you are doing warmups :D

I do want to give feedback regarding the format of the submission:

• Regarding the fine liners size, please try to stick to the fine liners thickness that was recommended (0.5, 0.4 might be fine). While this is a free critique, I have difficulties tracking the boxes between the line extensions, mostly because the line extensions have bolder color that drawn out the lines of the boxes.

• Try to put hatching on the sides closest to the viewer on future exercises like 250 ellipses, this would help the viewer understand which side is the closest to the viewer. I believe it's not mandatory, but this would help those who critique you :D

• Try to move out or clear away other pages from the image of the page you want to submit. Starting from box 30, the pages underneath the pages you are submitting starting to spill over onto the current pages and help confuse the line extensions that came out of the pages. By the final image, the stack of paper underneath the page you are submitting felt like it is interfering with the page you want to submit. Next time, try to focus on one page at a time, removing other pages out of the frame help the critique to focus on that page alone. This is not a feedback regarding the background (I take mine of a black table or bed at times), but the things near the page that you want to submit (which in this case is other pages).

In general, I still think that the line extension of the boxes from all three sides converge / meet at the same point, so good job :D

Hi hi! I will be giving you my feedback on this exercise! I have some images that I want to use to help visualize my feedback, so I have posted in on imgur here: https://imgur.com/a/qzlxnzU

Organic Arrows

I saw that some of the shadings of the arrows are done on the wrong side (My Correction. I think you should have put shade inward of the curves (Drawabox Example). From what I understand, you don't put shading on the side that was covered. However, I think it's just a small mistake since all your other arrows have an understanding regarding some of the shading, the overlaps, and perspective (closer things are bigger, far things are smaller).

Leaves

For me, Leaf 5 felt a bit flat and didn't pop up compared to the other leaves. Perhaps giving it a bit more curvature on the center line could have made it better. But in general, the line felt smooth, with clear display of natural folding. I saw a little bit of constructions, but I mostly see it on the first leaf. Overall, a pretty good job!

Branches

Branches was drawn beautifully, your strokes between each ellipses felt smooth in general. I do see that the strokes in general seems to be higher than the ellipses drawn, but the actual curves wasn't impacted that much. The degree of ellipses follows the principles from the previous lessons, with ellipses facing the viewer being larger than the one that do not face the viewer.

Plants

Sunflower: While I like the shadings of the leaves and the center of the flower, the upper leaves felt a bit stiff and bended awkwardly. Especially in the top middle, where the leaves felt like it just turn almost 180 degrees and flop over. perhaps giving it an overlap or a shading underneath it to tell viewer which side is up or down might help.

Brown mushroom: The construction of the mushroom felt solid. While I'm not supposed to focus on texture, the smaller holes in the mushroom could had a little bit of gradient to give the illusion that part of the light went through. Check out the mushroom demo https://drawabox.com/lesson/3/4/step5 and pay attention to the shading underneath the cap. Some of the holes are not full on colored black.

Pitcher Plant: The leaves are well done on giving the illusion that the plants curve, but the full black filling on the mouth (?) underneath the leaves somehow flatten the illusion of depth (essentially because it is solid black, you need to use your imagination on how things curve or relate to each other. Sorry if this sounds complicated). Filling an entire surface is probably best used for drop shadow (when one thing cover the others). I had a similar mistake when I did this exercise where I fill in almost an entire surface to copy the one of the color instead of using it sparingly for drop shadow. A middle ground for this would be to use a thicker line on the mouth or perhaps a bit of drop underneath the mouth to indicate that it pops out from the maid pitcher like body.

Hibiscus: This is a great way of using the drop shadow to communicate how the form works. Even without filling the entire thing with black, you could still understand the way the leaves are related to the other.

Cactus: The use of drops shadows to indicate that each "bulbs" on the cactus help made it pop out. I do want to remind you to take it slow when drawing the lines that came out of each bulbs of the cactus. This is because I saw that some of the lines just float above the bulbs which I think is done by the automatic movement when we do repetitive pattern. So take your times in drawing each lines from the bulb :D

Potato Plants: There are a different level of smoothness and confidence between each leaves. For me, the left sides felt a bit more natural compared to the right side, mostly because center lines of the leaves actually went from one end to the other (and not floats) where it could be used to infer the fold or shape of the leaves. The leaves on the right side have a very stiff and straight center lines which do not really help to sell the shape of the leaves. I assume that you might have drawn too much leaves for you to maintain a consistent quality. It happens to me to. At times, it is very easy to bite more than you can chew :D

Cosmos: Similar to my point of the pitcher plans, the line weights play a major part in giving the illusions how the position of each petals relate to each other. I like that there are some heavier line weights near the core, where the petals are pulled slightly downward like a sink hole. Perhaps a heavier line weight could also be applied to other petals that are under the other petals to mimic a drop shadow. I also need to give props to the shading as well, it mimics the pattern of color in a petal perfectly!

Spathiphyllum: I feel that the pike on the middle could have been given a stronger drop shadow to give it an illusion that the pike is in front of the petal (imgur image 2 on the first link). I understand that you followed the reference that you have, try to seek out other reference of the same plant to help build out a 3D image of the plants on your mind so you know where the drop shadow could have been used.

Hi! I will be critiquing your work today! I'm gonna critique per section based on the order of your submission.

Plotted perspective: The lines you drew went perfectly into the vanishing points. I do see a slight tilt on some of the lines on the back of the boxes, probably just the ruler going a bit off. A small feedback I want to give is that when shading, make sure that the lines fit snuggly inside the boxes. Don't overshoot or undershoot. I always thought the shading as a small exercise to reduce that automatic line drawing that the course is aim to eliminate. Every lines need to be put thoughts into it.

Rough Perspective: I am surprised with how close the extended lines were toward the vanishing points. However, I saw that the boxes you drew were slightly curved or tilted, giving the illusions that the boxes are not true boxes. Remember that the further away a box from a vanishing point, smaller their angle of the lines going toward it! You will get a full understanding of this during the 250 boxes exercise.

Rotated Boxes: Overall I am impressed with the drawing, most of the boxes are rotated carefully and have their insides drawn so that you understand where one lays compared to the other. I did see that the box on the middle left looked a bit distorted due to the extreme foreshortening. Making it look like the left side was stretched very far into the vanishing points. But other than that, you nailed the exercise.

Organic Perspective: Some of the boxes you drew have one of their side taller than the other one. It made the boxes have the shape of an old TV with their large back. The only reasoning I can think off is that you are trying to mimic perspective, but keep in mind that usually this kind of shift (foreshortening) only happen when objects are really really close. The further objects shouldn't get this treatment. This exercise purpose is to throw you off in the deep end, so I'm sure you get to understand the relationship further during the 250 boxes challenge. I also see that the closer boxes are larger, which is in accordance of the exercise' goal.

Superimposed Lines: The lines are confident, but there are some fraying toward the middle and the end. While I expect fraying at the end, some of the lines you drew had fraying at the start. Take your time to position your pen carefully before you start! More info: https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/13/fraying

Ghosted Lines: The lines overall are pretty confident. I do see that in general, your lines seems to arc upward so take your time doing ghosting. I also saw that some of the lines missed the other end of the dot by a bit. Finally, there was some overshooting on the target, so try to lift your pen the second it reach the end to get yourself habituated. Here are the official tips for it: https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/14/lifthand

Ghosted Planes: Lines are a bit more confident, but there were some lines that overshoot. Just make sure to lift the moment you reach the target to get a hang of stopping at the correct place. Don't worry, you will get better at this as you progress through the course.

Table of Ellipses: I can see that it was a bit rough at first, with the ellipses being a bit very large due to the amount of loops you went through. But I am happy to say that the ellipses do become more accurate as you go through the exercise. It is a pretty hard exercise and even now, I still have some problems that you displayed. The only advice I can give you is to take your time during ghosting the ellipses. Another note is to be mindful not to do too much ellipses. Doing so might feel like you are reducing the preparation (ghosting of the ellipses) in favor of fixing the mistakes as it happens.

Ellipses in a plane I am happy to see that you are trying to fill the planes fully with the ellipses. While some of the ellipses might looked a bit distorted, I'm sure over time it will get better :D A pattern I see commonly is that your first / second ellipses are too large then your other ellipses tried to course correct the size. In the future, you would want to aim to make the ellipses similar in sizes, that way the ellipses look more confident.

Funnels: I am impressed with the overall quality of the funnels. A lot of the funnels fit snuggly. Like other ellipses, accuracy will improve overtime as you continue through the course.

Overall, I'm happy that you have done the exercise with in a way that Uncomfortable intended it to be, so I'm happy to mark this lesson as complete. Good luck on your next exercise!

No worries! Now I see why the crab look the way it was! Thank you for clarifying and I wish you luck on the next lessons!