Hi,
Sorry for the late reply, but yes that was an improvement. Good job! I'll mark this as done!
Ah, thanks for your feedback. I'll make sure to use the line weight sparingly, I thought I add them to make it easier for me to know which part was at the front. But yeah, once I looked at it applying too much line weight do flatten the shape down. Thanks for pointing me out to that diagram again.
I also would keep in mind the lightsource on my next drawing. Thank you for pointing it out, I might just praice drawing with lightsource when I'm doing some sort of free drawing to get my hand used to it. Again, thank you!
Hi Beckerito, Again, thanks for the feedback! The picture I chosen doesn't really show the close up for the texture, so I mainly focus on the drop shadow and overall shape. If I need to do anymore revision, please do let me. Thanks again for checking!
Hi,
Thank you so much for your critique and I think you found my problem with some of the plants quite well. Shadow hasn't been my strong suit so I added a bit too much to convey depth, even though it's the shadow I added isn't really shadow but just silouhette. So, before I do the revision, I just wanted to make sure I got this right.
So for plants like bearded iris, is it better for me to leave out all the darker spots and instead focus on the cast shadow? Like the one I did with Aeonium plant? I assume that I should focus less on the details like gradient and focus on actual drop shadow.
Texture is one of my weakness and you can see me approaching it with different methods. So I really appreciate the feedback reminding me to check the second lesson, I might need some refresher for that :D Thanks a lot!
Hi,
Nice, you got what I meant for the organic arrows. Also, good job on highlighting the intersection between forms. Though the intersection between that cone and box I think should look like a quarter circle, everything else looked good. I can also see a lot more variation for the contour curves, some were straight and the other was a bit straight, so good one!
Next Steps:
You can continue to the next lesson. Good luck!
Hi, I'll be giving you my feedback for this lesson. But first thing first, congratulation on finishing this lesson!
Organic Arrows
The arrows you drew were impressive, it shows how confident you are with your pen. The use of perspective was good too, with gradual progression of width to know whether the arrow is close to me or not. One thing to note about the shadings is that I think you got some of the shadings on the wrong side of the curve. I believe the shadings should go in the inner curve not on the outer curve to show that the inner curve was blocked by the outer one. I saw you did some of the shadings correctly on the second page of organic arrows. Most of the shadings mistakes could be seen in the first organic arrow image. Check with the example that was given to see what I mean about the shading.
Organic form with Contour
The sausage and the ellipses looked confident. Some of the contour ellipses still suffer from inaccuracy, causing them to not hit the outline of the sausage or sometimes went beyond it. The contour curves looked a bit crooked but it's still confident nonetheless. There is a slight variation of degrees that I appreciate, though a bit more variation would be nice to highlight the fact that it is a 3d object.
Texture Analysis
I can't seem to find your texture analysis, so I'm just gonna ask you to submit it in the revision.
Dissections
The dissections you did were impressive, using techniques from texture analysis as well. Having the edge dense while the centre sparse was a good trick. I like that the texture popped off from the sausage and I learned a lot of things just from your result. I think the weakest one would be the wood on the second page (left bottom corner) where the shadings on the denser area seem a bit too much. Anyway, I liked it!
Form Intersections
For form intersection, I think your intersection should go a little bit deeper to get the full experience of the homework. You need to add line weight to the part where the shapes intersect, that way the viewers know which one is on top of which. For example, a tube going into a box would produce a circular line on the box. The boxes intersection had the boxes on top of one another, but you didn't exactly online how they intersects. Also, you submitted 2 of the same page for form intersections. I would like you to revise the 1 page of box intersections and one page of form intersections to help you get the full experience of this exercise.
Organic Intersections
While the sausage is aligned correctly on top of one another, the cast shadow provided was a bit too wavy. One end would be bigger than the other end. Furthermore, some of the cast shadows on the second page didn't really wrap up with the shape underneath and instead just floats, making it less believable as a 3d object. Try to keep in mind the direction of the lights so you could draw the shadow better.
Next Steps:
1 Page of dissections
1 page of box form intersections and one page of form intersections (A new one). Keep in mind to put more line weight on the intersection and please highlight how they intersect one another. Think about which shape go into the other shape.
Hi, I'll be giving you my critique for this lesson. I want to first congratulate you on finishing Lesson 2! Give yourself a pat on the back. Anyway, onto the critiques:
Organic Arrows
I'm having difficulties viewing it with the way everything was stacked on top of one another multiple times. While it's ok, might be better to space them out a bit and not have everything on top of one another. I feel like the foreshortening ended up a bit too sudden because the large end suddenly became smaller too fast. Try to play with the sizes a bit more gradually. About the shading on the bends, you seem to get some of the shadings backward. Some of the shadings you did were on the outer side of the curves. Meanwhile, the shadow would be made when an object is in front of it. It wouldn't make sense to have shadings on the outer curve, it should be on the inner curve. Check the example clearly and you will see what I mean.
Organic Form with Contours
For the one with full ellipses, I think the only problem you had is that some of the ellipses you had went over through the sausage you had made. Some of it looked a bit crooked, so a bit more confidence and training would help iron it out. For the contour curves, the degrees in the same sausage looked too similar to one another, reducing the illusion of the 3d objects. If the viewing angle doesn't allow much variation, you can try to increase the degrees bit by bit instead of using the same degrees. Check the homework page for this exercise "Mistake: Degrees all the same" for a better explanation.
Texture Analysis
I think you did pretty well with the texture analysis, I really liked the third one. For the first and second ones, I think you should put more cracks and crevices with bigger line weight to make the illusion on the left side because the transition from dense to sparse is not enough. Still, I believe you get the idea as you finish the third one.
Dissections
I feel like some of the patterns tried to recreate ended up a bit too simplistic. Take a look at the Cow, Tigerskin, Zebra, and Giraffe. They lack the curvature and feel like the texture was put on a 2d shape. Since it's also fur, you would expect them to at least pop up a bit like the fur hair you did. Some of the textures like paint, orange, and lime looked too random and felt like you were just scribbling. The grass texture that you did looked a bit simplistic too, even though it should have looked similar to the fur hair you did. Remember to separate each stroke to let go of that auto-pilot habit.
Form Intersection
I'm having difficulties with which shapes are supposed to be the front. All of them had the exact line weight so I could only interpret it based on the intersection that you had. Even then I found difficulty interpreting your intersections, I saw a lot of random wobbly lines that didn't make sense. For example, a tube intersecting with a box would probably result in a curvature similar to the tube, not a wobbly line inside. I suggest using adding more weight to the line to show how the form is intersecting. Also please be mindful of the boxes you draw, some of the lines cause the box to look crooked. Take your time when doing these exercises :D
Organic Intersection
Some of the sausages float mid-air which could be explained by the way the bend, but you are missing several shadows on the back. Just because they are on the back doesn't mean the sausage doesn't have any shadows. The sausage however looked a bit crooked as well, try to ghost them before actually drawing it.
I think my overall feedback would be to take your time when doing these exercises. Use the ghosting method so that your ellipses or your sausages don't look that crooked. I will request several revisions of some of the exercises. Take your time with it alright :D
Next Steps:
1x Page of form intersection (Put extra line weight on the part that is intersecting to make it easier to understand)
1x Page of contour curves (Don't draw the same degrees)
1x Page of organic arrows (be mindful of the shading and do give a bit more space to make things easier to understand. Don't change their size too suddenly, do it gradually)
No worries, good luck on your next lesson! You can do it!
Hi,
I could see improvement in your boxes. Which is what I hoped to see. Just remember to check your previous drawing and then try to learn from what you can improve. I'm gonna mark this as complete. You can move on to the next lesson!
Hi, I'll be giving my feedback for your 250 boxes challenge. First and foremost, congratulations on finishing this challenge!
The lines you did were confident, not a lot of wobble from what I have seen. Though sometime they would not reach the end point of where you are aiming. Not all of them, just a few.
I appreciate the variety of foreshortening at earlier boxes. Usually people would go with shallow foreshorterning first before doing dramatic, but I'm impressed that you tried doing dramatic first. Even thought they might look wobbly or like a trapezoid, it would have been much better if you kept on trying and not just stop at the beginning. After those mistakes, you seem to be afraid to do anymore of them and instead stick to shallow foreshorterning instead. We are all here to make mistake, that way we can learn to improve. So don't be afraid to fail :D
Some of the extended lines were not long enough. Even if the extended lines are converging not on the location you are aiming for, it is good practice to just extend it. That way you can know where you land currently and from there work your way toward your goal. If you do your extension lines after a page of boxes, those lines are not going to bother you that much. My page looked ugly with extension lines hitting one another, but it helped me to visualise where I'm currently at.
I think the glaring issues I see from this homework is that you seem to repeat the same mistake over and over again. The learning process is something that is hard to explain in words, but generally you should always look at where you currently are and where you are heading. I saw a major improvement from the early boxes (10-50) before finally stagnating. The angles you drew started to become similar and eventually you just keep repeating the same mistake. Around boxes 100-250, majority of the boxes had a very wide convergences. I can see some one or two axes of extended lines converge on the same spot, but the majority were not. Additionally, with how short your lines extension, it's hard to know where your lines are converging, making it hard for you to calibrate yourself to your goal.
I know this exercise might feel boring to do and that I had a feeling that you are in a rush (Seeing how box no 115-116 didn't have any line extension), but learning is a slow process. So take things a bit slow and try to put more effort before your pen touch the paper. Maybe putting a dot as a vanishing point and then use the ghosting method (kinda like how you do your rough perspective homework on lesson 1)
So I wanted you to do a quick little revision for this exercise. Don't worry, you are not going to draw 250 boxes again.
Next Steps:
I want you to do 2 pages of boxes, maybe around 5 boxes per page.
I want you to put a lot more thought into each box you draw. You are going to make mistake on the first box, but that's ok. I want you to take what you think is wrong from the first one and try to fix it on the second box. Keep iterating until you fill both pages. You can use the Y generator on the homework pages to get a bit more variety on your foreshortening.
Don't forget to extend the lines a bit longer, ideally until those lines started to diverge from one another. If those are too far, then it can't be helped. But I want you to understand where you currently are that way you can improve on your own.
I don't really care about how pretty the boxes look, I want you to try and make some mistakes along the way. We are here to learn, so don't worry about how pretty and clean your boxes are going to look.
A lot of my students use these. The last time I used them was when I was in high school, and at the time I felt that they dried out pretty quickly, though I may have simply been mishandling them. As with all pens, make sure you're capping them when they're not in use, and try not to apply too much pressure. You really only need to be touching the page, not mashing your pen into it.
In terms of line weight, the sizes are pretty weird. 08 corresponds to 0.5mm, which is what I recommend for the drawabox lessons, whereas 05 corresponds to 0.45mm, which is pretty close and can also be used.
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