ExtraBadCat

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    9:12 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    Really excellent work. I'm going to keep this brief, as I'm trying to get as much feedback out to people as I can, and there's nothing of note to call out here. Your lines are confident and well controlled, and you're demonstrating excellent use of the ghosting method. Your ellipses are similarly even and smoothly shaped, and are clearly making solid use of the ghosting technique as well to continue to be accurate without getting stiff or rigid. Your boxes follow the instructions to the letter, and even your rotated boxes were very well done. Your organic perspective boxes are a great start, and while as expected of everyone there's room for improvement with this, that's totally normal.

    Next Steps:

    Move onto the 250 box challenge and keep up the great work.

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    9:08 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    Nice work overall! Your lines section is solid. Confident execution, and a solid use of the ghosting method to maintain control over your accuracy. When you get into your ellipses, you do start to get a little stiff - this can occur by simply drawing too slowly, by not applying the ghosting method (and therefore not executing your marks with a confident, hesitation-free stroke) or by drawing from your wrist instead of your shoulder.

    Skipping on down to your boxes, your work here looks solid except one issue with your rotated boxes. You're not quite covering the full range of rotation along the major axes, as explained here.

    Other than that, great work.

    Next Steps:

    Move onto the 250 box challenge.

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    8:59 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    Nice work overall. You're doing great work with your lines section - maintaining smooth, confident strokes with consistent trajectories, and reinforcing them with control by using the ghosting method effectively. Your ellipses are generally in the same vein, with clear focus on keeping them evenly shaped, but still managing to achieve a good deal of accuracy. Jumping further down, your rotated boxes show that you're taking care to follow the instructions to the letter.

    I noticed that while your rotated boxes came out really nicely, there is room for improvement in keeping the gaps between your boxes more consistent and narrow, as this allows us to eliminate any guesswork from the equation, instead following along neighbouring edges wherever possible. Your organic perspective boxes also a good start, though as is expected for all students at this stage, there's plenty of room for improvement when it comes to getting your lines to converge more consistently towards their vanishing points.

    Next Steps:

    Keep up the good work and move onto the 250 box challenge.

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    8:51 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    Self-critique is great, but it's best to keep it to yourself and compare it to the feedback you receive. That way you avoid situations where your feedback causes others to limit what they address (if you've mentioned something already, one might not feel like it is necessary to address that exercise at all, in which case other issues could be overlooked).

    Also, it looks like you only linked a single page - a page of your super imposed lines - rather than the whole album. For what it's worth, the superimposed lines are looking fine, and you're drawing them confidently, maintaining a nice, smooth trajectory... but you're definitely going to want to try posting your full album again.

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    8:48 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    I hate to say this, but I think you may have missed some important concepts when working through this challenge. Looking over your boxes, they can be divided up into two groups.

    One is the majority - boxes where you appear to be trying to keep your lines parallel - physically parallel as you've drawn them, not just parallel in 3D space (and therefore converging towards a vanishing point. The problem with this is that you're totally rejecting the principles covered in the instructions for the challenge, as well as the stuff taught back in Lesson 1. Instead of thinking about how these lines are converging towards their shared vanishing points, you're not considering the existence of any actual vanishing point. Because of this, your lines run roughly parallel as drawn on the page, and sometimes even end up diverging as they point away from the viewer. This is wrong. When drawing your boxes, you need to think consciously about the vanishing points each set of parallel lines (that is, parallel in 3D space) is meant to converge towards. Even if that vanishing point is faaar away, it still needs to exist in your mind, and you need to strive to point your lines towards it.

    The other group, of which there are far fewer, actually do converge. For example, #1 falls into this group, as do many on this page. This is a move in the right direction, but you do still need to work on getting each set of 4 lines to converge consistently towards a single point. That means that when you're drawing a line, you have to think about all the other 3 with which it shares a vanishing point. It's easy to get caught up in thinking about them in pairs (like thinking about the lines that share a plane) but this will result in the convergences being inconsistent.

    I think it'd be good for you to draw another 25 boxes at least, and demonstrate that you understand what I've explained here.

    Next Steps:

    Draw another 25 boxes.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    8:22 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    I think you've shown a good deal of improvement over the course of the challenge. There are still common mistakes I'm seeing (like the blue lines on this box on the second last page are diverging as they move farther back). Also, I noticed that your line extensions aren't always lining up properly with the lines you've drawn - like in that linked box, your green ones visibly seem to follow a different path. Remember that these line extensions are meant to help you analyze what you've drawn. In order to achieve they, they need to properly represent an extension of the lines you've drawn.

    Also worth mentioning, your last box there seems to try to make your lines run parallel to one another in 2D space (rather than having some far, far off vanishing point). Always think about there being a vanishing point somewhere, and keep in mind that your lines are converging towards it.

    Next Steps:

    Move onto lesson 2.

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    8:15 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    Fantastic work. You've done a great job of focusing on keeping the convergences of your lines consistent towards the vanishing points, and while you started out strong, you definitely demonstrated a big move in the right direction by the end all the same. Your linework is also confident and cohesive, and the forms you've drawn feel solid and three dimensional. Really, really well done.

    Next Steps:

    Move onto lesson 2.

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    8:13 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    Really nice work! Through your lines section you're demonstrating really confident, consistent executions that helps maintain straight trajectories, along with a good use of the ghosting method to help reinforce those lines with added control. This carries over nicely into the ellipses, where you're focusing on maintaining an even, smooth, rounded shape. Even in your ellipses in planes, you avoid getting too focused on accuracy (despite still doing a good job at it), and prioritize flow and smoothness first.

    Your first two boxes exercises are done well too. Skipping down to your rotated boxes, give these notes a read as they describe a problem you're running into here. I also agree that in your organic perspective boxes, you are getting a touch sloppy with your linework, compared to what we know you're capable of. You also have a habit of correcting mistakes - this is a bad habit. Generally you should let your mistakes go and keep moving, otherwise you'll just make them stand out more.

    All in all, you're doing a good job, so you should consider this lesson complete.

    ...aaand I just realized this one already received a critique. damnit.

    Next Steps:

    Move onto the box challenge.

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    8:08 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    Nice work! I can clearly see that youve worked a great deal on getting your lines to converge more and more consistently towards their vanishing points, and that you're working on getting them to do so all together (marking out the ones that tend to stray). Really great work on that front, and the improvement is quite visible. You're also demonstrating confident, controlled linework with a solid use of the ghosting method. Keep it up!

    Next Steps:

    Move onto lesson 2.

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    8:06 PM, Wednesday March 18th 2020

    Unfortunately I don't really have a lot of negative stuff to point out. Your work here is fantastic, especially through the later sections of the lesson (texture, form intersections). I did however catch one issue in your organic forms with contour ellipses/curves. While you are shifting the degree/width of those ellipses/curves as you move along the organic form, you're doing it in the opposite direction. This diagram shows the correct direction.

    Aside from that, just one more minor thing - for your dissections, in the future (if you ever do these again), try making the strip along the middle of the sausage form (where the surface is facing the viewer head-on) more sparse, and have it get denser as it moves out towards the sides. You did this with the corn quite nicely, but it'd have been good to see it with the others too.

    Keep up the fantastic work.

    Next Steps:

    Move onto lesson 3.

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