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Ervi10

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    3:01 PM, Monday April 4th 2022

    I'm sorry? What is this for?

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    7:26 PM, Tuesday January 11th 2022

    Hi, I'll critique your work. Sorry you happened to just wait for so long

    Lines

    Your Superimposed Lines look confident. No real wobbling/course-correcting here. You improved in terms of fraying on either end on the second page. Nice job at confidence there

    Your Ghosted Lines also look confident. Next steps for this would be striving to hit both points.

    You also should've experimented with the orientation of the lines. Place random points, rather than have them lined up. It's not a big mistake, but in doing this, you miss opportunities getting used to rotating the page. Don't worry if it gets a bit cluttered. The important thing is that you use the ghosting method.

    That said, you still did a good job ghosting.

    Your Ghosted Planes look a bit off. I'm pretty sure you're supposed to have various sizes and orientations of planes. Other than that, your lines seem to curve sometimes to hit the end points. We shouldn't try to correct our lines to hit the end points. If your lines are confident and straight, but miss the points, that's ok. It's best to prioritize confidence and flow over accuracy. Ghosting more can help you with making your lines straighter, while also aiming for both ends.

    Ellipses

    There are a lot of wobbly ellipses in your Tables of Ellipses. Perhaps you didn't trust your arm when you executed the strokes. Perhaps you rushed the ghosting process. But your ellipses seem to fit snugly into the spaces. That's good, you just need to prioritize smoothness/confidence over accuracy. Only strive for accuracy when you can make smooth confident ellipses first.

    Your ellipses got decently better at the Ellipses in Planes. Your ellipses got more confident, but there are a few cases where you prioritized hitting all four edges, rather than achieving smoothness.

    Besides that, there isn't much variety in the planes, so the kinds/sizes of ellipses you got to make were very limited.

    Your Funnels look pretty good. Looks like you prioritized confidence more than accuracy, that's good. There are still some wobbly ellipses, but you're heading in the right direction in terms of smoothness.

    While rotating the page is not as prominent in this exercise, it's still nice to get used to. One of your funnels pages had the funnels only in one rotation. Don't be afraid to have your funnels in different angles/sizes.

    Boxes

    Plotted Perspective was done correctly.

    Rough Perspective looks rough. A lot of the lines are wavy. It got better over time, just don't forget how important ghosting is. You also shouldn't go over your lines multiple times. Only one mark for one line. Even if you missed the mark, don't repeat it. Understandable though that your line quality dipped, because this is our first time making something from these lines. Just don't rush the ghosting method. If you need to ghost a ton of times, do it. It's better to make a few smooth strokes, than a lot of wobbly strokes.

    Your Rotated Boxes also looks rough. You didn't really keep your gaps narrow, and you didn't really use neighboring lines to your advantage. There are a lot of marks for each individual line, and there are a few wobbly lines. Again, don't rush. But this is one of the harder exercises, so nice try regardless.

    Your Organic Perspective boxes look, decent. Besides the repeated marks, some boxes look like the parallel lines don't have a specific vanishing point. While we don't actually have vanishing points to work with, we still have to try our best having those lines converge. Still, nice try at this spatial challenge.

    Conclusion

    You had some confidence going into this, but then you started going for accuracy, sacrificing confidence. We can strive for both confidence and accuracy, just break it into steps, working your way starting with confidence. If you're rushing the ghosting process, don't. It's supposed to help your arm make the best mark possible. Ghost as much as you need for your arm to become comfortable with the motion for the mark.

    Don't repeat marks, even if it misses the points.

    Try putting units of work (such as planes and funnels) in different rotations. Again, rotating the page is not as important, but it's best to grasp it now, because eventually you'll run into making marks that are rotated differently as you construct complex object.

    It's okay that you struggled with a lot of these. Some of these exercises are meant to throw you into the deepest end of the pool, and have you learn to swim there. In other words, failing is normal in this course. Just get back up, and keep going.

    Again, nice try.

    Next Steps:

    1 page of Ghosted Planes (use a variety of sizes and angles, and fill the page)

    1 page of Tables of Ellipses

    1 page of Ellipses in Planes (use the revision of Ghosted Planes for this)

    1 page of Rotated Boxes (perhaps use the rough perspective exercise as a small warm-up for this)

    1 page of Organic Perspective

    Ghost purposefully, telling your shoulder what it needs to do for the mark. Really trust in your arm to do its best for the mark.

    Also, if you mess up, don't be hard on yourself. This is our first few times with these concepts, and you'll get better with time and practice. Do your best!

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    2:52 AM, Sunday January 9th 2022

    Thank you! Honestly I didn't know if I was doing good by the time I got to the last box, so good to know I'm heading in the right direction. Thanks again!

    9:16 PM, Friday January 7th 2022

    Heck yeah, fun drawings are, frustrating but fun to make (personally speaking!).

    You're welcome for the advice! Best of luck at both the Box Challenge and personal drawings!

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    9:12 PM, Friday January 7th 2022

    Lines

    Your Superimposed Lines look confident. Not a bit of wobbling/course-correcting there. You also started roughly at the same point. Nice job. The fraying will reduce overtime as you work with muscle memory. Looking towards the end point can help with fraying less. But yeah, nice confidence.

    Ghosted Lines look decently done. Next step for you would be aiming for hitting the end points. But there is a fair bit of that here, so nice job. Keep in mind you can look at the end point as you ghost, and that you should ghost as much as you'd like to get your arm really comfortable with the motion.

    Ghosted Planes look confident. But I see a lot more curving with these lines. You might want to work on that. Try ghosting more. Get your arm to be comfortable with more straight motions. Your sitting position/posture might also affect this. You may have also been rushing this. One line is one line, one plane is 8 lines, a box is 12, etc. Take your time on each line. We'd much rather have a few good lines than have a complete piece have rough lines. Other than that, still good confidence.

    Ellipses

    Your Tables of Ellipses got a bit better over time. Though there are a lot of ellipses that look like you prioritized accuracy over confidence. We can work on fitting the ellipses snugly later. You should work on confidence first. Perhaps you weren't ghosting enough to get your arm familiar with making ellipses. That will get better with practice.

    You had a lot more confidence going into Ellipses in Planes. But the ellipses are very loose, there isn't really a clear shape with these ellipses. You might want to plan/image the ellipse more, as well as ghosting more. Imagining/planning the ellipse can give you an idea as to how you should ghost it, making more cohesive ellipses.

    For Funnels, it looks like you went for confidence more. That's good. You might just want to prepare more, until your arm is really ready to make the mark. Nice job lining the ellipses up to the minor axis (center line) though!

    Boxes

    You did Plotted Perspective correctly. Nice job taking the time to plot each line with it's vanishing point.

    Rough Perspective looks, rough. There are some boxes that are curved. But you kept your boxes straight for the most part. Just keep in mind that we're paying close attention to the rules of the perspective system in this specific exercise. Other than that, your line quality took a dip. That's understand, considering we're doing more than just putting lines down. But, don't rush ghosting if you were. Ghosting helps our arm make the best mark possible.

    Your Rotated Boxes look great. There is a significant change in rotation in each new box, nice job. You drew through your boxes, and kept gaps narrow. Nice first try with this spatial challenge. I would only advise to go a little slower and ghost a bit more.

    Your Organic Perspective Boxes look wonky. You might want to think a bit more about each line's convergence. Either that, or you might want to take better care of each line. Especially as we head to the Box challenge, we want to prepare as much as we need for each line. But these are good first tries at this spatial problem.

    Conclusion

    You had a fair amount of confidence going into this. Great job at putting confidence where it was need Your line work could use some improvement. Try taking your time, making your lines smoother and straighter. Remember that ghosting is basically the act of telling your arm what it needs to do for the mark. Ghost as much as needed to make your arm familiar with executing the motion. I'm sure you can make good improvement when you know what to look out for, and when you put your mind to it. I think this needs some revisions. Try your best, take all the time you need, and don't be too hard on yourself. If anything you did a good job with these concepts.

    Next Steps:

    A page of Ghosted Planes (try to get familiar with roughly one motion of the arm)

    A page of Ellipses in Planes (use the ghosted planes revision for this)

    A page of Organic Perspective

    Do your best!

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    11:42 PM, Thursday January 6th 2022

    It's good you're seeing where you need to improve, but let's see here

    Lines

    Your Superimposed Lines look decent. I don't see many areas where you necessarily course-corrected the lines. You had a lot of confidence in your arm in this, nice job. As you addressed, there is fraying on the start of lines. Really, you can solve that by going a little slower, watching where you put your pen. And then making the mark. Confidence is not without its preparation. As for fraying on the other end, it's normal, and will reduce with time. Overall, nice confident work there.

    Your Ghosted Lines look really smooth. There are a few curving/arcing lines, but it doesn't seem to be a big issue for you. Just remember that ghosting is basically you telling your arm what it needs to do. So ghost as much as you need to make your arm comfortable with making the motion. Looking at the endpoint, as you try to figure out a straight motion, can help as well.

    Hooh boy, the lines of your Ghosted Planes got straighter. No real problem when it came to confidence, nice work on that. Next steps would be to work on accuracy (Level 3 of Ghosting), trying to hit both points with confidence. But yeah, you nailed this one.

    Ellipses

    Your Tables of Ellipses got better as you worked through it. Your ellipses were initially too loose, crowding alot of space. But by the second page, your ellipses were less loose, and took up less space. Nice improvement. What you'd want to work on next would be the eveness of your ellipses, as some have bigger/smaller halves. You may want to ghost more, until you feel like your arm goes evenly in the motion. Edit: looks like you worked on that on the bottom half of page 2. Great job

    Though there are some wonky ellipses in your Ellipses in Planes, you still were confident. And you tried you best to snugly fit the ellipses, trying to hit all four corners smoothly. Evenness of the ellipse could be worked upon. But overall, good work here.

    Your ellipses in the Funnels got better. You worked with confidence, also trying to even out the ellipses. And you played around with the concept of the minor axis (center line), checking your mistakes along the way. Nice job there.

    Boxes, ooh

    You did Plotted Perspective well.

    You did Rough Perspective nicely. You paid a good amount of attention to each line's behavior. Your linework got a bit rough but you shouldn't sweat it that much. Just pay more attention to ghosting, even if we're drawing more than just lines. Other than that, you may want to experiment with overlapping boxes. Overall, nice job.

    You did Rotated Boxes very well. It's a little hard to see the outer outer boxes. But there is significant rotation on each new box, nice job there. You've kept your gaps narrow and made your lines confident. You nailed this exercise.

    Your Organic Perspective look good. It's not that big of an issue that your boxes get way too small. Good on you that you corrected that though. You also carefully worked out each line's convergence, nice job for your first time tackling this spatial challenge. You want to work on connecting each line next time. Especially as you head to the Box challenge

    Conclusion

    Very great submission. Great job with sticking to the instruction. Very great job on making confidence above everything else in these exercises. Nice work playing around with spatial concepts. There is room for improvement, and I'm glad you know some. Generally speaking, accuracy might be your next best step from here. Do come back to these exercises as warm-ups, and I'm sure you'll be able to improve where you need to.

    Anywho I'll mark this as complete. Good luck with the 250 Box Challenge

    Next Steps:

    The 250 Box Challenge

    Give it your all. Do your best at confidence and accuracy. Don't be afraid of mistakes, and don't be afraid to learn from them. Pretty sure you might have mistakes even with Box 250. What matters most is that you learn from mistakes so they become less frequent/obvious. So, do your best!

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    6:39 PM, Thursday January 6th 2022

    Hi, I'll critique your work.

    Lines

    Your Superimposed Lines look decent. As you went, your lines had less wobbling. You approached it with a good amount of confidence, and you're fraying on only one end. Nice work. Keep at it during warm-ups and I'm sure you'll get better.

    Your Ghosted Lines look very smooth. I'm not sure if you were undershooting/overshooting. But in any case, looking at the end point as you ghost can help. Sitting position and posture might also be a factor. So get comfy, yet alert in sitting. Also feel free to ghost as many times as you need to get your arm familiar with the motion it's supposed to do.

    Ghosted Planes look solid. There are some curved lines, but that doesn't seem to be much of an issue. Your lines got straighter for the most part. So good job ghosting. I'm sure with time and practice you'll get better.

    Ellipses

    Your Tables of Ellipses look confident. You got real creative with this one. You did a decent job fitting the ellipses snugly, and that got better over time. Next things to work on would be the evenness of the ellipse, and the cohesion of the ellipse. You might want to spend more time planning the ellipses, imagining them before ghosting, and then you ghost. Ghost as much as you need for your arm to get comfortable with making the motion needed.

    Your Ellipses in Planes got better as you went. Some are still uneven, but you still approached this exercise with confidence. Good job on prioritizing confidence over accuracy.

    Your Funnels look solid. You played around with the concept of the minor axis (center line) correctly, and you got better with evening out your ellipses. You also kept that confidence going. Great job with this one.

    Boxes

    You did Plotted Perspective correct, and well. Looks like you really took the time to figure out each line before making them. Nice work.

    The lines on your Rough Perspective look a bit off. That's ok, because this is our first time doing something complex with ghosting. Just keep in mind that ghosting is crucial, and that you shouldn't rush it. You might have to spend more time on just a few lines. That's ok. We'd much rather have a few smooth lines, than a whole scene with rushed lines.

    The Rotated Boxes look wonky. The rotation on the outer boxes is very subtle, and there shouldn't be multiple lines for one line (just a nitpick, but this is a thing for all these exercises, so it's important). But you did follow each step correctly, and you kept your gaps narrow. So I'd you did a decent first try at this spatial challenge.

    The Organic Perspective Boxes look good. You experimented with certain rotations, portions, and sizes well. And it looks like you took great consideration as to where the lines converge. Great job for the first time doing this.

    Conclusion

    You approached all of these exercises with a good amount of confidence. Next thing to work on would accuracy and evenness. There is some room for improvement, but this is a good first step into markmaking, and playing with spatial concepts. Good submission, I'll mark it as complete. Best of luck with the Box Challenge

    Next Steps:

    The 250 Box Challenge

    Take your time with each line, ghost a lot for the best mark you can make, and do your best. Do not be afraid of mistakes, as they are part of learning and becoming better. It's possible you'll even have mistakes on Box 250. The aim is not to make perfect boxes, just to decrease the mistakes, and to strengthen our understanding of 3D space.

    Also, be sure to take breaks and do some fun drawings as part of the 50% rule.

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    4:14 PM, Thursday January 6th 2022

    Hi, I'll critique your work.

    Lines

    Your Superimposed Lines look really confident. There isn't a whole lot of wobbling here, so nice job letting your arm do its best. Some improvements would be to work on the starting point (particularly in the longer lines), and also trying to minimize fraying on the longer lines. But fraying is completely normal, so don't worry.

    Ghosted Lines look pretty good as well. For the most part, you prioritized confidence. As a result, your marks are really smooth. It doesn't seem like you have a problem with actually ghosting. So I'd say just ghost as many times as it takes for your arm to get comfortable with the motion.

    It looks like your lines got better with the Ghosted Planes. There are some wobbly lines here and there, but overall these marks are wonderfully smooth. If anything, time and practice will help you get even better.

    Ellipses

    I don't really see your confidence letting up on the Tables of Ellipses. A great deal of the ellipses are smooth. You might want to work on the evenness of your ellipses next. Ghost as much as you need to make the ellipse even. Other than that, accuracy needs some improvement. But don't prioritze that over confidence. We'd much rather have smooth ellipses that miss the space, than wobbly ellipses that are accurate. That said, this was nicely done.

    Your Ellipses in Planes look better. Confidence is still there, you worked a lot on your accuracy, and you're working on evenness a bit. Nice job.

    Your Funnels look great as well. You worked with confidence, and your ellipses are cut evenly by the center line. Excellent work on the evenness too. You nailed this one.

    Boxes

    Nice job on Plotted Perspective. Looks like you took your time carefully plotting each individual line with the vanishing point.

    Rough Perspective looks a bit rough. Your lines got a bit wobbly. But for the most part, you did this exercise well.

    Rotated Boxes look REALLY good. There is significant rotation as each new box goes away from the viewer. And you kept your gaps narrow, allowing you to make each line well. Excellent job overall.

    Your Organic Perspective boxes look rough. But this is our first time making boxes without any real clues. You did a swell job making closer boxes bigger and farther ones smaller. So nice job.

    Conclusion.

    You started off strong and confident, and finished nicely with the same approach. There is some room for improvement, but you sticked with the instructions most of the time and had a lot of confidence working these out. So I'll mark this complete. Good luck with the 250 Box Challenge.

    Next Steps:

    The 250 Box Challenge

    Take your time plotting out each line, approach each mark with the same confidence, and do your best. Do not be afraid of mistakes, as they're part of learning. There can be mistakes even onto the 250th box. So don't sweat for perfection, just aim at becoming better each time.

    (By the way, we aren't really supposed to go to the next lesson/challenge without at least some kind of critique. Because who knows if we're actually good to go or not? But I'll let it slide this time. Just next time, wait until someone critiques your work. In the meantime, you can catch up on the 50% fun-drawing-time rule. Best of luck with the Box challenge)

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    12:10 AM, Wednesday January 5th 2022

    Hi Kukamu, I'll critique this.

    Lines

    Your Superimposed Lines are looking very confident. I do see a bit of fraying on both ends (or something similar), so you might want to pay close attention to where you put your pen before you start making a mark.

    From what I can see, your Ghosted Lines got better as you went. I'd suggest that you work on confidence first (making a smooth, near-straight stroke), and then work on hitting both points. You might want to ghost a bit more, trying to get comfortable with one specific motion, and then executing your mark.

    The lines of your Ghosted Planes look wobbly. Again, you should try to get familiar with one motion for the mark you're going to make. Once you got a motion down, execute that mark with the same motion. Any and all opportunity to fail that mark passes as you make the mark. So just ghost, get comfy with one smooth motion, and then do the same motion, trusting your arm to do the rest. I'm sure you'll nail it with time and practice.

    Ellipses

    Your Tables of Ellipses got decently better over time. Again, after ghosting for a good amount, let your arm do the motion again to the best of its ability. We're aiming for confident, smooth ellipses first. Once you have confidence down, you can start to work on fitting them snugly.

    Your funnels look pretty good. I can see you got more confident with certain ellipses. When you plan to go back to this exercise, just be sure to prepare/ghost more.

    Your Ellipses in Planes look wonky. There are some that were smoothly executed, but a lot of them try to reach the edges instead of being even. Though we try to hit the four edges, it's not our first priority. Keep in mind we prioritize getting the ellipses smoothly first, then hitting all four edges. I think its best to think of it as though the planes aren't actually there. That way, it gives better peace of mind when ghosting and executing.

    Boxes

    You did Plotted Perspective well. No real issue there aside from a couple weird vertical lines here and there.

    You followed the steps of Rough Perspective well. Though you should go back and check the convergences of the depth lines with a different-colored pen.

    For Rotated Boxes, the outer boxes of the plus/axis don't have any real rotation in comparison the the box next to them. Some gaps weren't really narrow enough. As a result, the boxes on the corners look rough. I'd say you should make these boxes a tad bit smaller, and keep your gaps narrow.

    For Organic Perspective, you did follow each step correctly. And you played around with the smaller-and-bigger boxes idea of far and near boxes very well. Nice job.

    Conclusion

    You were pretty half-and-half when it came to either prioritizing confidence or accuracy. Work on confidence, then accuracy. I can tell you have a good idea as to how ghosting benefits, so just ghost until you're comfortable making the motion for the mark. It looks like you knew what you were doing for the boxes exercises for the most part. On the whole though, there is a lot of room for improvement. And I'm sure you can improve once you put your mind to it. I think there should be some revisions. Try your best, and don't be too hard on yourself. If anything, really great job on your first time with these concepts.

    Next Steps:

    Ghosted Planes

    Ellipses in Planes (use the revision of the planes for this one)

    Check your convergences in Rough Perspective (well, mostly because it IS an important step)

    Rotated Boxes

    Go for confidence first, then work on accuracy. If anything, accuracy is just a matter of pointing a confident arm to the right directions. Ghost as much as needed for your arm to get into the motion of making the mark.

    For Rotated Boxes, keep your gaps narrow and take your time. Double check if you're unsure about the lines you're going to make. You might want to go back to the lesson material.

    Best of luck, and don't be hard with yourself.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    5:25 PM, Wednesday December 15th 2021

    Ah, thank you! Same to you as well :D

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