Elias_3000

Nice, how is it going so far? I myself have actually been drawing a lot but I stopped DrawABox at lesson 3 but I'm planning to redo everything, at least the normal exercises because the course is really helpful but when I did it the first time, I just lost track at some point and didn't do enough drawing for fun.

Hi, here is my revision of the texture. Let me know if there's something wrong with it. I felt like it turned out much better now about 1,5 months later than before when I was just trying to figure out how it even worked. https://imgur.com/a/TSs8sFU

Yeah, I do the old exercises during warm ups, it really helps. Thank you for having me do revisions, they really helped in getting a much better understanding of building discipline instead of focussing too much on just getting it done.

And I already did lesson 2. I kinda rushed there too but I apparently understood the exercises well enough and now I have learned to take much more time in the future.

Thank you for your time.

Hi, here are my revisions

https://imgur.com/a/YPu9W0u

Thank you for taking your time to write a critique for me. I think you are spot on with almost everything. This critique was quite eye opening to me. Yes, I did rush and yes to make the boxes bad like this were decisions, me deciding to half ass it and not spending enough time to do it properly.

The boxes turning out kinda parallel wasn't my intention. I wanted to draw boxes that had shallow convergence, not to make them parallel. But I didn't do stronger convergences, I will pay attention to that while doing the 50 boxes. Also, part of the reason why the lines are wobbly is that I didn't rotate the page. I wanted to train myself to be able to draw the lines well in any direction but I have realized that this is pointless. Rotating the page is important for now and I will do it for the revisions.

Also, I will hold off from continuing lesson 3 until everything else has been critiqued. Revisions for the box challenge as well as lesson 2. I send in my partial work into the Discord server since joining it. And I will do so too for the remaining boxes.

Thank you, this review really helped a lot.

Lesson 1 TheBigJambowski

Superimposed lines:

Good. But sometimes you have fraying on both ends, try to stay patient and focussed while doing the exercises and start every line at the same point. Otherwise, your lines are quite confident already.

Ghosted lines:

Good. The picture is low rez so I’m not sure but it seems like you have those hooks sometimes at the end of your lines. You can try to lift your pen up to get smoother endings to the lines. Also, rarely you bent the line slightly to get better accuracy. Don’t do that, just follow through. But otherwise good, they are confident and smooth so you’re good, but keep that in mind.

Planes:

Good. Confident and smooth lines and they are accurate too as a nice bonus. You don’t need to do those dramatic angles though since it makes it slightly harder to draw the ellipses properly. Ellipses are good.

Tables of Ellipses:

Good. You drew smooth and consistent ellipses and they fit into the space quite well. Also, you drew through them 2-3 times which is good.

Funnels:

Good. Ellipses fit nicely into the funnels and the are aligned with the minor axis. Otherwise, the ellipses themselves are good like before.

Plotted Perspective:

Good but remember that your back lines should be vertical. This comes down to slight inaccuracies in measurement I think so no big deal but still. Otherwise, you did good. Nice accuracy, meaning you took your time. Also, you hatched the boxes well.

Rough Perspective:

Your extended lines often go too far. They should stop at the point where they intersect with the horizon line. Lastly, the boxes’ width lines should run parallel to the horizon line and the height lines should run perpendicular to the horizon. But generally you did good.

Rotated Boxes:

Looks good. You seemed to really take your time to understand the exercise and execute it as good as you can. What I would tell you is to draw the bottom sides first. They show little to no rotation compared to the top sides, like they were just thrown in as an afterthought. They also converge towards a vanishing point. But you don’t need to redo, you did good. Don’t come back to this exercise the next week, do it after the 250 Box Challenge.

Organic Perspective:

You did good. I like how you tried to make your boxes converge. You drew through your forms. However, I think that you should have drawn a bit smaller boxes too to really show how deep the perspective is.

Conclusion:

You did really good. Try to incorporate some exercises into your warm ups. Don’t grind if something is difficult like the Rotated Boxes. Just do it to the best of your abilities and move on. Also, as a gentle reminder, remember the 50% rule.

Lesson 1 Zelos

Superimposed Lines:

They are good for the most part but remember that you can also practice with shorter lines, that’s easier for the beginning. Also, include this exercise in your warm ups. Otherwise, the lines are confident and relatively smooth.

Ghosted Lines:

Solid for now. They are still wobbly, that gets better with more practice. Also, try not to worry about accuracy while executing the lines; doing them faster might help.

Planes:

A bit less hesitation in the lines. Good. Ellipses fit nicely too and are quite confident.

Ellipses:

Good, you tried to fit them into the spaces and they are quite confident. Incorporating them into your warm ups is still a good idea.

Funnels:

Ellipses fit nicely into the funnels and most of them are aligned well with the minor axis.

Plotted Perspective:

Quite good but remember that the hatching doesn’t have to be on the same side for all the boxes, in the second panel on the right, you could hatch the front or top face to make it clearer. Also, in the third panel, the box on the far right I don’t quite understand the hatching. Seems like you hatched the right side, but we should shade any side that faces the viewer.

Rough Perspective:

Good. Just remember that the width lines should be parallel to the horizon and the height lines should be perpendicular to it.

Rotated Boxes:

That’s a very good first attempt. You can revisit the exercise after the 250 Box Challenge to see your improvement.

Organic Perspective:

Good. You had a solid amount of variety in your boxes, you could still vary the Ys a bit more though but the variety you have is okay. Lines are still slightly shaky sometimes but much better than before.

Overall, you did very well on all the exercises. You should still do Ellipses in Planes and idk Rough Perspective as warm ups. I hope I wasn't too harsh and that you could get something out of it. Let me know if I should improve anything about my critique.

It's understandable that you are harsh on yourself. But you definitely have to work on breaking that habit of wanting to be perfect, this will hinder your progress and will make you lose the fun of drawing big time. But I think you can do it.

And thank you that my critique helped you. If you have anything that you disagree with, is worded too harshly or too complicated or if something isn't explained enough, please tell me.

Visualizing your thoughts can be really helpful, like if you can't really sort them out, writing them down can help with figuring out what you are actually thinking. And yeah, it's cool to see the process of others, that's something you rarely get to experience so I enjoyed it a lot and I don't think they are cringey at all.

I hope you'll enjoy the 250 Box Challenge and learn a lot from it and I hope that you will soon be able to get out of that perfectionism. I can only tell you that art is a continuous process and if you can't enjoy that process with all its imperfections, you are bound to end up disliking art. And it's completely unavoidable to make mistakes so accepting them as normal and as a good learning oportunity is really healthy and important for making progress and for your enjoyment.

Just some stray thoughts about your critique:

• fraying at the end of a line isn’t really a problem with superimposed lines; fraying at the beginning is a sign of impatience. Accuracy will come with more practice and focussing on it will just distract from drawing confident lines.

• ellipses should be drawn through 2-3 times at max, more than 3 just makes it messy

• Rough Perspective boxes tend to be wobbly. The width lines should be parallel to the horizon and height lines should be perpendicular to it. I think the boxes are fine for the stage the person who drew them is at.

• It’s good that you emphasized the ghosting method

• About the Organic Perspective: Yes the part of the flow line that is closer to the viewer should be thicker, I interpreted it as though you meant the boxes, make clearer exactly which lines you mean.

Lesson 1 orphee

Superimposed lines:

The scanning slightly lowers the image quality at some points but that’s alright. You have some fraying on both ends which means that you are too hasty. Try to start every line from the same point. Fraying on the ends is okay and expected though so don’t worry about that. The lines are confident though so you should be good.

Ghosted lines:

They are confident and straight for the most part. Good. It also seems like you are lifting your pen instead of stopping, nice.

Planes:

Good linework. Make them less distorted though, that’s easier for the ellipses later.

Ellipses:

Good. You are mindful of having them fit tightly into the tables and you are drawing them confidently and smoothly. Also, you drew through them 2-3 times, good.

Funnels:

Good. Your ellipses are aligned with the minor axis and they fight well into the form.

Plotted perspective:

Good. I especially like how tightly you hatched the boxes.

Rough Perspective:

Good. The boxes are a bit wonky sometimes but that gets better with practice. Remember that the width lines are parallel to the horizon and the height lines are perpendicular to it.

Rotated Boxes:

You did really well for your first attempt. I think you understood the concept well. If you want to, you could try it again after the 250 box challenge to see how much better you can do this exercise since at this point it is a bit too difficult.

Organic Perspective:

Good. Maybe use some more smaller boxes but I think overall you managed to rotate the boxes well. Remember that the individual lines of the initial Y can have slightly more varying lengths. We are drawing boxes not cubes. But you did well regardless.

Conclusion: You did really well in lesson 1. It seems like you really paid attention to the instructions and what each exercise was meant to teach you. So I think you are ready to move on to the 250 Box Challenge.