ClementineFruity

I can post warmup for crits in #Lesson2 channel on Discord right? I'll continue to do L2 warmups with heavy focus but would like to get feedback on my work espeically for Dissections.

Should I be studying the works of other students for Dissection for how to make lines and how to translate cast shadows?

I think for my contour curves another reason it lacks control might be because I was trying to ghost an ellipse instead of a line so I will also try and ghost the curve instead of the ellipse (and try and draw half the ellipse).

I already slowed down my ghosting over time for my lines and even ellipses for greater control so I think you're right about the speed != confidence thing.

(Applied ghosting method and shoulder for contour curves (drew them like a half ellipse) but still feel could be better on a redo.)

https://imgur.com/a/xdIrrdN

Oh: https://imgur.com/a/gqncgjZ

This should be everything. A bit of a later submission than I would have liked as I had to wait a week to get new fineliners. I will try to apply some self crit based off my knowledge so you could see where I might be having gaps that I don't realize

I personally think in here the degrees of my ellipses for both organic forms could be more dramatically different to show the form but I did try to apply the whole changing direction thing. It does create a better illusion of form but one thing I should focus on if in the future is to have less unnecessary ellipses and only enough to convey the form. I think by doing too many it became distracting for the viewer.

I also felt a bit disappointed with the sausages I used for Dissections themselves too but I decided to stick with the mistakes instead of redraw them over and over but I do think that more focus on the reference this time and taking more of my time might lead to improvement from the previous attempt (I did like how 'Tree Trunk Top' turned out).

I know that for some forms I should focus on the 3D forms for stuff like bricks so that it doesn't look as much of a flat texture. One way I could try this is also to have some lines more curved (I did attempt to have some bricks sticking out but had trouble visualizing it at the time. I think if I were to redo Dissections again I could pull it off however)

I watched Scylla's video to get an idea for the pacing and workflow for Dissections but didn't want to copy her textures exactly as I wanted to practice the skill of reading from a reference on my own (flaws and all). As such I also included the extra paper that she used to test and study textures out before applying them (to show that I did it). I still have trouble with the gradient stuff but by picking textures with very obvious cast shadows (brick, tree trunks) I felt that I could get the hang of it with far more practice.

I think for my Intersections more practice on box forms would be preferred. The mistakes in perspective made it distracting but I did make a lot more of an effort to have less streched forms as a little foreshortening in each box as I could. Not sure if it's apparant.

I think simply having more practice with my arrows and the hatching portions for the dark side would lead to better results for that. I did attempt to make the scale more dramatic (the tip starting really small and the ends really big, for example).

One thing to note for my Dissections is that I focused a lot on studying photograph references for the textures. I resisted the temptation to study other people's Dissection fineliner work and copying their version of textures but I do feel I am lacking a lot of the ability to convey detail and form on a texture. I am guessing studying other people's textures and dissection attempts would be missing the point of the exercise, right? So I didn't do that but if I was supposed to I apologize.

Okay! My next resubmission will be a bit later in maybe a week or two as my fineliners are in poor shape. I am also practicing and revisiting my 3 point perspective boxes more in warmups as I feel rusty there.

Hope my reply isn't too verbose. The important stuff is in the bulletin points and the parargraph after about dissections. I noticed myself making some of the common mistakes spotted on the exercise as well but not sure what to do about them after I made them.

(in my own words)

Notes for Organic Arrows:

• Apply perspective more to focus on dramatic change in size to emphasis moving in 3D space away and to viewer

Notes for Organic Forms:

• Change degree of contour to reflect orientation of viewer (similar to image here). Should be applied to both types. Try and overshoot for the Contour Lines to show 'wrapping'

Form Intersections:

• Focus on sets of parallel lines rather than the corners (same as 250 Boxes)

For Dissections:

• I am still not sure whether to draw form or shadows for textures such as Grass or Hair that have extrusions aside the sausage form shape. I understand however that you want to focus more on form shadows (and hence have gradient towards the middle) (Grass is an example from the example).

• I will look and study the reference more closely rather than trying to memorize the 'pattern'

• I noticed in Scylla's video that she tested out the texture on a different piece of paper before applying it on. I did not do this step as was unaware that it was allowed. I will try that in my second attempt. I also noticed that it's the whole form that's wrapped in the texture. I was a bit confused as other people mentioned that there's supposed to be a gradient applied for Dissections as well but unsure about that instruction.

In addition, I can watch Scylla's videos more as those are a demonstration of going through the exercises. I think I may benefit more from watching those in full. I tend to learn and understand instructions by doing (have trouble understanding just text). I noticed it's only up to Lesson 2 so I hope I can find a good alternative to watching someone do the homework to better understand it before my own attempts (or I could just redo it after submissions like right now)

I noticed myself making some of the mistakes mentioned (espeically like cast shadow stuff and mistakes w/ the foreshadowing and streched forms in Intersections) but can't redo it. I definitely think I do better on future attempts with feedback. Hopefully I will develop the skill of better understanding the instructions more before I put pen to paper, although I think the Scylla videos you introduce if i take them as a core prerequestie before starting future attempts for next lessons may help a lot.

I currently work by attempting something even when I don't fully understand it and get the 'feel' of it so instructions make more sense when I re-read them which does lead to a lot of work where I don't fully understand the material during my submissions which may explain why my work may seem 'rushed' (because it is genuinely made while still in a confused state). I guess it's better than my old habit in the past where I'd overthink something and ask too many questions rather than just 'doing the work' but its possible I am going way too in the other direction and starting too quickly.

There's also the factor that when I know I messed up the page badly and my instinct is to just work on finishing it so that I can do better next attempt (warmup or being asked to redo).

I will start work on the redos once I get a reply here to clarify that I understand the mistakes and what to apply next time as well as clarification on the Dissection thing. I could do Dissections just choosing textures that are purely form shadow based rather than stuff with forms like Grass/Hay/Hair.

I would be pretty disappointed if I wasn't asked to redo I feel that after my first attempts and reading the feedback I have a better idea of what I am missing and what I can try so I am glad for that.

Looks like you understood the instructions of each exercise properly.

With rough perspective, remember that there are two sets of parallel lines (one parallel to the horizon and one perpendicular to it) as it's in one point perspective.

Your organic perspective could use more focus on the three vanishing points of each boxes as the lines should converge to it. Right now your boxes are distorted due to the divergences but its possible its simply due to lack of practice and you'll get it after 250 Boxes + Warming up with the exercise. It may be worth rereading this part of Organic Perspective instructions which goes into more detail about this: https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/17/step3

Your lines are still a little wobbly during your box exercise. Keep in mind to draw from the shoulder and with confident strokes with the ghosting method. If you are doing that already then it simply takes time to train the muscle memory, in which case just continue to practice it during your warmups and you'd improve over time.

For your rotated boxes, it is important to note how each box has its own vanishing point and how the rotation may offset it. In the future, it may be helpful for you to draw the boxes in this exercise following your understanding of perspective with less reliance on the example as a reference.

The rest of your exercises you seem to understand the instructions well enough that you can continue to practice them as you are doing. It will naturally take time to get better at them.

For your lines, you seem to understand the concept of the exercise properly. Your ellipses exercises are okay, although I do want to remind you that you should be ghosting your ellipses with a good enough speed and it does take a bit of practice to get there but you seem to be on the right track.

It looks you need to be more confident when making your ghosted lines. You should be consciously making more of an effort to draw from the shoulder as you do the lines as your lines are still very wobbly. It will take some more time and practice if you're doing the steps correctly but be sure to review them.

For Organic Perspective, you should draw through your boxes such that you should be able to see all boxes, even if they're covered by other boxes. You can add lineweight to clarify their relationship on the line overlaps after.

For Rough Perspective, remember that the horizontal lines of the box you create should be parallel with the horizon, and the vertical lines should be perpendicular to the horizon. You want to create the box by extending the front plane towards the vanishing point the best you can before drawing your correction lines towards the horizon.

Your front and back planes for Rough Perspective should only have parallel lines as the boxes are in one point perspective (https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/15/guessing)

Other than Rough Perspective and Organic Perspective, it seems that you have understood the instructions of each exercise properly. You will improve over future warmup sessions with these exercises and I think you are ready to tackle 250 boxes.

It appears that you understood the instructions for all homework in Lesson 1 properly, allowing you to continue woring on them in your Warmup Sessions with ease. There are still diverging lines in your boxes in Rough and Organic but I believe with further practice they will get eliminated over time.

While you seem to have understood how the perspective of the box shifts in Rotated Boxes, for future attempts during warmups it may be helpful to set the distance between boxes in Rotated Boxes further apart. However it is good that you made the boxes an equal distance apart in the exercise.

You also grasped the concept that each front/back plane of Rough Perspective should have two sets of lines, one that is parallel to the horizon and one that is perpendicular. This is good.

You are currently missing these exercises in your submission and should submit them before doing 250 Boxes:

• https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/ghostedplanes

• https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/funnels

• https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/ellipsesinplanes

and the entire homework for: https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/6

It could be possible that you have done it but the Imgur gallery is missing them.

It does appear that you understand the instructions for superimposed lines properly.

It appears that you are attempting to apply the Ghosting Method for your lines properly, although I still notice the wobbling, it might be normal as part of experience as long as you're drawing from your shoulder and confidently with speed. They should improve over time.

Your table of ellipses is formatted properly at a good size and variation and it appears that you applied the ghosting principle for ellipses. It will simply take more practice to produce more solid ellipses and you're on the right track here.

Overall, while you're missing exercises, the exercises you have managed to submit appear to follow the instructions properly and you may continue doing them as you are as part of your future warmups.