BeliSeraf

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    11:08 PM, Tuesday September 8th 2020

    Hi,

    Good job on completing lesson 2! Hope you enjoyed it.

    Here's my feedback:

    Organic arrows - Pretty good. Only feedback I'd give is for the overlaping parts of the arrows is to go over the line again that's visible(so where the arrow curls one line is visible/closer and the other isn't). This will give a bit more visual clarity on the shape.

    Contour lines - Your sausages look a bit flat, more so on the ellipse contour line exercise. You can improve this by changing the degree of the ellipse throught the sausage. It's hard to specifically explain it with words so I'm linking this picture from the homework explanation.

    https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/061ed3b6.jpg

    Textures - Your textures are very "outliney". It seems more like you are drawing hard outlines of objects, rather than it's texture and how the light/shadow works with it. I would recommend watching through this clip for deeper explanation(it's only 5min long and it is linked in the homework section as well).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sueXWvNZ0ss&feature=youtu.be

    You want to strive for your texture work in these exercises to be more implicit, rather than explicit.

    Form intersections - You have 4 pages of intersections, but on 3 pages you didn't outline the intersections at all. Also, you missed the statement in the homework that said one page must be boxes only. You should pay a bit more attention to the homework requirements, and the material that accompanies it will help you avoid issues such as this one in the future.

    Please redo this homework.

    Organic intersections - Your sausages here seem very stiff and floaty. The reason they seem stiff is because you are not adding the proper weight to them. They are suppose to kind of "sag" over the sausage below then. There needs to be more curvature to emphasise the weight of the object.

    I can't pinpoint the exact issue with the shadows though. I think they contribute to the "floatiness" of your sausages. But it's quite possible the stiffness is more to blame here. It's possible that maybe your shadows are too big, making the objects appear floating above the sausages below.

    You've done good work here, but there's definitely some need for revisions.

    Next Steps:

    Form intersections - For the 3 pages you have where you didn't outline intersections, outline them! Also do a new page with just boxes(preferably do this first before outlining the other 3 pages).

    Organic intersections - I'd redo this exercise with 1 new page. Focus on trying to make the sausages less stiff this time.

    Bonus:

    This is not required, but if you are really willing drill down the concepts from this lesson and the feedback I'd also recommend doing:

    1 page of contour lines, focusing on changing the ellipse degree to give more shape to the sausages.

    1 page of textured sausages, focusing more on implicit texturing(check video).

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    8:17 PM, Friday August 14th 2020

    Ok, I can see the blood now, Be careful!

    Anyway, your texture homework is significantly improved. I don't think any specific feedback is necessary as you are going in a good direction with it now.

    The organic arrows are still sloppy. You have a lot of lines that intersect(for example the 'body' of an arrow will intersect everywhere with the 'head' of the arrow). There's also still a slight issue with arrows expanding and narrowing randomly(although less than before). There is more variety in the arrows now though, so that is an improvement.

    I scrolled through other people's homework and found a good example for organic arrows.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/ywK9Be1

    I'm marking your lesson as complete, as we aren't chasing perfectionism here. I gave you a more indepth feedback on the arrows again because there is another organic arrows exercise in lesson 3 that you'll need to do. I think analyzing the work of the person I linked will help you improve.

    Next Steps:

    Good luck with lesson 3!

    This community member feels the lesson should be marked as complete, and 2 others agree. The student has earned their completion badge for this lesson and should feel confident in moving onto the next lesson.
    8:02 PM, Friday August 14th 2020

    I can see the improvement.

    Your organic arrows no longer look as flat, they have more depth now.

    Your textures now follow the shapes of the objects they are on more.

    There is still room for improvement, but we are not looking for perfectionism here.I think you are starting to absorb the concepts from lesson 2, so I'll mark the lesson as complete. Good luck with lesson 3!

    Next Steps:

    Keep practicing your texture work. You will have to use it more and more in future lessons.

    This community member feels the lesson should be marked as complete, and 2 others agree. The student has earned their completion badge for this lesson and should feel confident in moving onto the next lesson.
    5:14 PM, Wednesday August 12th 2020

    The drive is locked. Please make it shareable so I could open it, or rehost to imgur :)

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    9:39 AM, Sunday August 2nd 2020

    General feedback - It seems like you are rushing through the exercises and homeworks. You are reproducing some common mistakes that can easily be avoided. I think you could gain and learn a lot by just taking more time per each exercise, reviewing the common mistakes sections and focusing on applying those learnings.

    It also seems like you "give up" on some exercises, and just stop them midway. Failing to complete these basic exercises will make your next lessons even harder.

    Organic Arrows - You draw a lot of arrows in the same way. The "flat-wavy" kind. I would try to experiment more with this. You also leave a lot of arrows unfinished, and you even cross some out as mistakes. Doing this doesn't mean you completed 2 pages or homework. It means you completed 1 and a half.

    And even if a mistake happens when you are drawing an arrow, work through it. That's how you'll learn.

    Organic Forms - Some of your sausages are distorted. Remember, there's a list of things you should avoid in the homework explanation. These include:

    Ends of different sizes

    Roundedness on the ends that stretches farther than the size of a sphere

    Midsections that swell or pinch

    This is much more visible in your contour curves exercise.

    Texture Analysis - You didn't complete this exercise. You only filled out 10% of the third box in each row. There should be a smooth transition across the whole box and only the final 10% section should be fully white.

    Texture Dissections - For this exercise you still need to fill the page with sausages, not just draw one large sausage to avoid doing many textures. Please redo this exercise with 2 pages of at least 5 sausages on each page.

    Form Intersections - Your lines are a bit wobbly on your forms(especially on your boxes). Maybe practice the ghosting method exercise from lesson 1 a bit more. You should execute your lines quickly with confidence. Also try to go over all the lines that are visible again with a liner to make them a bit thicker. You do this but only partly, it's suggested in the exercise to do it and it will improve the visual understanding of the intersections. I'd also add hatched lines to the faces of forms that face the viewer.

    Organic Intersections - Organic intersections seem fine. There is only one distorted sausage on DSC_0253(the one on the top right of the pile), and it's placed unnaturally. That's fine though, it's expected to make some errors. My only issue with this exercise is you redrew some lines several times. For example some of the sausage contour curves you draw to give them shape are drawn with 3-5 lines. Stick with one line for these things. Only for full elipses should you do 2 passes.

    Next Steps:

    Please redo the following exercises:

    2 pages of organic arrows

    New texture analysis without hatched lines and with the 3rd box filled in properly

    2 pages of texture dissections with 5 sausages per page

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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    4:15 PM, Tuesday July 28th 2020

    Hi,

    General feedback - It seems like you are rushing through the exercises and homeworks. You are reproducing some common mistakes that can easily be avoided. I think you could gain and learn a lot by just taking more time per each exercise, reviewing the common mistakes sections and focusing on applying those learnings.

    Organic Arrows - Your arrows look flat. Some of your arrows don't overlap at all. The ones that do use a weird perspective, where often they are wider at the midsection than both of the ends. Some arrows are generally just wobbly and widen and shorten completely arbitrarily. All of these mistakes compounded make the arrows look flat.

    Organic Forms - Some of your sausages are distorted. Remember, there's a list of things you should avoid in the homework explanation. These include:

    • Ends of different sizes

    • Roundedness on the ends that stretches farther than the size of a sphere

    • Midsections that swell or pinch

    Texture Analysis - Your textures from the analysis are very 'simplified'. Transition from dark to light is almost non-existent, especially on "Dry ground cracks" analysis. I don't have any other feedback for this except devote more time to it and try to notice the detail in the textures.

    Texture Dissections - Your sasuages are pretty distorted here as well(they seem like different sausages). Your textures also seem a bit flat, they do not curve with the sausages(They should!). It also seems like you are drawing the forms of the texture too much. You should try focusing more on the shadows. I am also guilty of this. Look at other people's work for inspiration, and provide more time for studying the textures.

    Form Intersections - Again, your forms are pretty distorted. I saw your 250 box challenge and you can draw a box there without issue. It just seems like you are not investing enough time here. You are rushing through the boxes, theres even several boxes where you forgot to draw all the faces!!! Some objects(like the cylinder on the last page) are intersecting with empty space? You should also add hatch lines to the face that's directed at the viewer, this will make it easier to discern the objects.

    Organic Intersections - Again, distorted sausages. A lot of the shadows seem arbitrarily placed as well. First page of organic intersection, the sausage on lower right(page is flipped for some reason) is drawn completely behind the "main sausage", for some reason though you drew it casting a shadow over the main sausage. This also happens in other places(second drawing, sausage on top of the pile is drawn behind the one below, yet casts a shadow on it's front)

    If I had to summarize the feedback it would be - Don't rush it. 90% of your issues will be solved just by devoting more time to the exercise and focusing on the task definition so as to avoid the common mistakes.

    Next Steps:

    I would recommend redoing at least a page of each exercise. Take it easy, plan out your moves and lines and everything will be fine.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    6:05 PM, Monday July 27th 2020

    Hey, sorry for the late reply. I proceeded with lesson 2 for some time and now came back for this revision.

    I redid a page of each of the ellipses exercises.

    https://imgur.com/a/vbMUU4H

    I feel the lines are less wobbly now but doing the lines faster to reduce wobblines does worsen the precision of ellipses. Some of their positions are more off now.

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    10:12 AM, Sunday July 26th 2020

    Hi,

    Good work on getting through the challenge, it's a tough one!

    I'd like to start with some general feedback on the whole challenge.

    Boxes per page - You have way too many boxes per page, It's advised to have 5-6 boxes per page in the exercise. Putting so many boxes on the page will make each individual box be smaller, and on smaller boxes it's easier to hide your mistakes. You don't want to hide your mistakes, you want to see them clearly so you'd be able to learn from them.

    Box Y's - You use similar orientation for most boxes. While you do change the length of the lines for the initial Y corner, your angles between lines are pretty similar throught most of the exercise. I'd definitely try a doing a couple of more pages with a focus on making each box have a 'unique' orientation. You can even find a tool to generate your Y's.

    For some 'page specific' feedback:

    Your boxes are pretty distorted up to about the 80th box. After that you kind of get into the grove and there's a noticable different in quality. There will still be an off box here or there but that's to be expected.

    You do face some issues with long boxes where the back face is still kind of distorted and the persective lines diverge. Some notable boxes with this issue are:

    235, 220, 193(i think), 164

    Next Steps:

    For a revision I would suggest doing 5 pages with 5-6 boxes on them that are bigger than your current ones so as we could give you more quality feedback and so you'd be able to see for yourself as well which things you need to work on more.

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
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